HotDogs..Beef or Pork & Beef? grilled or.....

tis · 01-12-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Comminuted is actually a term which means bone broken or splintered. I purchased 100's of thousands of pounds of comminuted chicken from a Boston processor. The machine used was called a Behive press. It takes the leftover carcasses and presses like a grinder against a fine grinder plate(screen) and out comes this mudlike material. In the process, the bones get broken and squashed and and meat and marrow gets pushed through the screen.
If you look on the Kayem Schonland brand ingredient label you will find the third meat is mechanically separated chicken, which I have described as comminuted. I was in Hanaford last night and bought a 1 lb tray pack of the Kayem nc franks and found that the price per lb is now the same. The choice is easy for me.

Oh God, don't tell us any more! I USED to love hotdogs! I always KNEW they didn't have good stuff in them!

Wolfeboro_Baja · 01-12-2011, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tis

Oh God, don't tell us any more! I USED to love hotdogs! I always KNEW they didn't have good stuff in them!

With the good comes the bad!!

Generically, I like dogs steamed in beer (at home) or grilled or pan-fried. Got to have ketchup and onions on them BUT if I'm buying from a vendor, then I like cheese (whatever they offer), ketchup, mustard (prefer Gulden's Spicy Brown or the old standby yellow mustard) and onions!!

We currently buy either Ball Park all beef or Nathan's (bun length only!) but I'm going to have to give those Kayem's a try! SIKSUKR, which one's am I looking for that do NOT have the comminuted chicken in them?? Thanks in advance!

SIKSUKR · 01-13-2011, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tis

Oh God, don't tell us any more! I USED to love hotdogs! I always KNEW they didn't have good stuff in them!

Just read the label guys. Anything that is not muscle meat must be listed as such.eg: hearts, tongues, lips, and the like. Contrary to the popular myth, the meat is actually very high quality, it has to be to make a proper frank and the USDA inspector is onsite all the time to watch the process. I eat them all the time and I bought all the meat and formulated all the recipes.

Argie's Wife · 01-13-2011, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tis

Oh God, don't tell us any more! I USED to love hotdogs! I always KNEW they didn't have good stuff in them!

It's all animal protein, no matter what part of the animal it is...

Funny... no one has mentioned Tofu Pups yet...

(Ducking behind my morning cuppa coffee now, before a food fight erupts in the Forum....)

robmac · 01-13-2011, 08:50 AM

AW,that's just not right. A hotdog should be eaten for enjoyment and taste,but TOFU NOT

SIKSUKR · 01-13-2011, 10:19 AM

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It's all animal protein, no matter what part of the animal it is...

Yes and no. Although true that it is all animal protein, there is a difference between regular protein and collagen protein. Lips, ears, snouts, tongue, cheek and other cuts have a high collagen content and are not a good source of protein for making emulsions such as Frankfurts or bologna. This is why they must be labeled separately and not come under "beef" or "pork".

Wolfeboro_Baja · 01-13-2011, 10:50 AM

SIKSUKR, this is more informative than those shows on History Channel or Food Network on food production!!

RE: tofu, that doesn't qualify as food in my mind, I don't care how bad the contents of "regular" hot dogs are!

gtxrider · 01-13-2011, 10:52 AM

Nobody wants a FENWAY FRANK???

Jonas Pilot · 01-13-2011, 02:27 PM

We've all tasted 'em.

Merrymeeting · 01-13-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gtxrider

Nobody wants a FENWAY FRANK???

I'm sitting here reading this thread for the first time and finding my mouth watering as I read!

My favorite is a good, chilli-cheese dog. But given the choice I would take a Fenway. Not because they are the best. But because of the atmosphere.

Top of the left-field wall, mid-June, 7th inning, Sox leading...

gonetoolong · 01-13-2011, 03:19 PM

a HUGE margin. Kinda surprises me, I thought it'd be the beef & pork so I'm glad I asked. Also a nice spicy mustard seems very important too...

I used the Dietz & Watsons last year but give me a vote for this year;

Kayem/Schonland all beef natural casing
Nathans all beef natural casing
Dietx & Watson all beef Natural Casing
or
Pearls all beef natural casing.
With the Pearls I can also get foot longs that are nice and thick, not the skinny footlongs but a really substantial dog.

What are the votes?

Jim C

Gearhead · 01-13-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Yes and no. Although true that it is all animal protein, there is a difference between regular protein and collagen protein. Lips, ears, snouts, tongue, cheek and other cuts have a high collagen content and are not a good source of protein for making emulsions such as Frankfurts or bologna. This is why they must be labeled separately and not come under "beef" or "pork".

Is it just a coincidence that "College Inn" broth sounds like "collagen"?

If so, then I'd like to trademark an animal based toilet paper called "Connective Tissue".

Gearhead · 01-13-2011, 05:00 PM

My hometown of York, ME has (or used to have) Flo's hot dogs. It was a little shack on Rt. one in Cape Neddick and when you went in you had to know exactly what you wanted AND what you wanted on it, including a drink. I guess it was to keep the "line" moving. I have no idea what brand she used, but we went there a few times because it was cheap. I can only imagine how long those things were on the steamer!

Bigstan · 01-13-2011, 05:23 PM

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My hometown of York, ME has (or used to have) Flo's hot dogs. It was a little shack on Rt. one in Cape Neddick and when you went in you had to know exactly what you wanted AND what you wanted on it, including a drink. I guess it was to keep the "line" moving. I have no idea what brand she used, but we went there a few times because it was cheap. I can only imagine how long those things were on the steamer!

A little red shack on rt 1? It's still there, though I don't recall seeing any lines.

Fishy Cover · 01-14-2011, 05:44 AM

Where does one get a good hot dog in the Lakes Region?

Happy Gourmand · 01-14-2011, 08:23 AM

After all this discussion, who has the best hot dog in the Lakes Region? I have to admit that I have never ordered a hot dog while up at the lake!
It would be interesting to know what brand they serve, if known, also.

fpartri497 · 01-14-2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishy Cover

Where does one get a good hot dog in the Lakes Region?

The best hot dogs are from hot dog bob @ the wolfboro town docks.

Think Spring

Argie's Wife · 01-14-2011, 11:13 AM

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The best hot dogs are from hot dog bob @ the wolfboro town docks.

Think Spring

There was a guy with a hot dog stand at Alton Bay for a while - Rick's Dog Pound. He did a "Hell Dog" which had hot peppers and hot sauce. On a cold day, it was a great way to become an instant furnace! Unfortunately, the hawker/vendor rules changed in Alton and he had to close shop, but we really liked Rick's. The oldest Arglet had his first hot dog there!

SIKSUKR · 01-14-2011, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gearhead

My hometown of York, ME has (or used to have) Flo's hot dogs. It was a little shack on Rt. one in Cape Neddick and when you went in you had to know exactly what you wanted AND what you wanted on it, including a drink. I guess it was to keep the "line" moving. I have no idea what brand she used, but we went there a few times because it was cheap. I can only imagine how long those things were on the steamer!

Flo's used to carry Jordans when I was manufacturing. Shultz also had a pretty good NC when they were made in Portsmouth.

01-13-2011, 10:52 AM	#8
gtxrider Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Piscataway, NJ Posts: 1,030 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 24 Posts	Suprised Nobody wants a FENWAY FRANK???

01-13-2011, 03:19 PM	#11
gonetoolong Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 40 Thanks: 12 Thanked 24 Times in 8 Posts	Ok, the All beef seems to be leading by... a HUGE margin. Kinda surprises me, I thought it'd be the beef & pork so I'm glad I asked. Also a nice spicy mustard seems very important too... I used the Dietz & Watsons last year but give me a vote for this year; Kayem/Schonland all beef natural casing Nathans all beef natural casing Dietx & Watson all beef Natural Casing or Pearls all beef natural casing. With the Pearls I can also get foot longs that are nice and thick, not the skinny footlongs but a really substantial dog. What are the votes? Jim C

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Gearhead Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Alton Posts: 166 Thanks: 13 Thanked 19 Times in 8 Posts	Flo's Hot Dogs My hometown of York, ME has (or used to have) Flo's hot dogs. It was a little shack on Rt. one in Cape Neddick and when you went in you had to know exactly what you wanted AND what you wanted on it, including a drink. I guess it was to keep the "line" moving. I have no idea what brand she used, but we went there a few times because it was cheap. I can only imagine how long those things were on the steamer!

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Fishy Cover Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 134 Thanks: 10 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Hot Dogs in Lakes Region? Where does one get a good hot dog in the Lakes Region?

01-14-2011, 08:23 AM	#16
Happy Gourmand Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ruskin FL Posts: 1,027 Thanks: 188 Thanked 322 Times in 179 Posts	Great question, FC After all this discussion, who has the best hot dog in the Lakes Region? I have to admit that I have never ordered a hot dog while up at the lake! It would be interesting to know what brand they serve, if known, also.

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robmac Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nashua,Meredith Posts: 951 Thanks: 213 Thanked 106 Times in 81 Posts	AW,that's just not right. A hotdog should be eaten for enjoyment and taste,but TOFU NOT

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Wolfeboro_Baja Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hopkinton NH Posts: 395 Thanks: 88 Thanked 80 Times in 46 Posts	SIKSUKR, this is more informative than those shows on History Channel or Food Network on food production!! RE: tofu, that doesn't qualify as food in my mind, I don't care how bad the contents of "regular" hot dogs are!

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Jonas Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wolfeboro, New Hampshire is my home, 24-7-365 Posts: 1,686 Thanks: 1,047 Thanked 336 Times in 189 Posts	We've all tasted 'em.