more expert testimony on SB-27

[jrc]

Hi Rusty, good to have another forum member eager to debate the speed limit and other issues with us. Glad you cleared up the mistaken identity, I'm sure it was unintentional.

[Rusty]

As a little boy it was my dream (and I’m sure other little boys dreams) to own an automobile that is luxurious and perfectly balanced with a combination of high-powered performance and sleek, racy design.

Well I finally found it with the Uber-Luxury, $1.4M Bugatti. It is one of the world's fastest cars with a 1000+ horsepower engine fed by four bi-turbochargers. The car can go zero to 60 miles per hour in 2.5 seconds!
That being said I am going to get a petition going that will remove all speed limits on NH highways.

We all know that it isn’t speed that kills, it is due to the lack of driver education and alcohol. Simply put: “too many boneheads on the highway”.


Below is a picture of the car that I might buy if I can get the speed limits removed from our highways:

[jrc]

Taking the speed limit off interstates would not necessarilly mean an increase in accidents and deaths. Search autobahn.

Since we are setting up strawmen, how about we set speed limits to 45 day and 30 nights on every road in the state? That way people can buzz by the school at the same speed as on route 93?

Or even more reflective, have no speed limit on any other road in the state, but have a 45 mph limit on the single biggest, widest, most open road in the state.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by jrc

Taking the speed limit off interstates would not necessarilly mean an increase in accidents and deaths. Search autobahn.

Since we are setting up strawmen, how about we set speed limits to 45 day and 30 nights on every road in the state? That way people can buzz by the school at the same speed as on route 93?

Or even more reflective, have no speed limit on any other road in the state, but have a 45 mph limit on the single biggest, widest, most open road in the state.

OK then, I’ll compromise with you. As long as I can get the speed limit removed from the interstates (sound familiar to you?). Also I promise not to come back ever again if this passes (sound familiar to you?).

Please jrc...don't ruin all my little boy dreams....please!!!!

[lawn psycho]

Originally Posted by Rusty

OK then, I’ll compromise with you. As long as I can get the speed limit removed from the interstates (sound familiar to you?). Also I promise not to come back ever again if this passes (sound familiar to you?).

Please jrc...don't ruin all my little boy dreams....please!!!!

Rusty, you do realize how stupid it is for you to bring interstate speed limits into the argument don't you?

There are civil engineering DESIGN CRITERIA involved with roads. We've already discussed this before. Speed limits on roads are based on ENGINEERING DATA. The site lines on Winnipesaukee are huge. The seperation of boats is huge compared to the interstate and the speeds are not comparable. Do you have 150 ft rule on I-93?

You're barking up the wrong tree. If you want to now use interstate traffic standards then you better start coughing up data and we know the pro-SL crowd doesn't have any to present.

Apples and oranges.

Also you take issue with OCD wanting to have a boat that only until the SL came along was a perfectly legal hobby. So what is it that you like to do as I am sure we can pick apart whatever interests you may have

[jrc]

Originally Posted by Rusty

OK then, I’ll compromise with you. As long as I can get the speed limit removed from the interstates (sound familiar to you?). Also I promise not to come back ever again if this passes (sound familiar to you?).

Please jrc...don't ruin all my little boy dreams....please!!!!

I don't have the power to make your dreams come true. Maybe you have me confused with someone?

As far as I can remember, no one advocated no speed limit at all times and places either on the water or the road. I know I don't.

Now as Lawn Psycho has yet again gone over the line, and you are just playing, I will once again try to stay out of this arguement.

Never have and never will own a boat that can break 45 mph. So why do keep jumping back in?

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by jrc

I don't have the power to make your dreams come true. Maybe you have me confused with someone?

As far as I can remember, no one advocated no speed limit at all times and places either on the water or the road. I know I don't.

Now as Lawn Psycho has yet again gone over the line, and you are just playing, I will once again try to stay out of this arguement.

Never have and never will own a boat that can break 45 mph. So why do keep jumping back in?

Thank you jrc!

psycho has gone over the line too many times to suit me also.

By reading some of his comments I think the people who live on Bear Island have something to be concerned about.

[lawn psycho]

Originally Posted by Rusty

Thank you jrc!

psycho has gone over the line too many times to suit me also.

By reading some of his comments I think the people who live on Bear Island have something to be concerned about.

I don't care what you think. You think calling me "psycho" when my user name is LAWN psycho is not trying to stretch things a bit?

Regarding you last sentence, you tell me PRECISELY what I have posted that is illegal? If not I think you have libeled me should retract that sentence. I'm not kidding.

Being an adult you know full well the difference between banter and a threat. Man up and apologize as calling me a threat and reason for anyone to be concerned is going WAAAAY to far.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by lawn psycho

I don't care what you think. You think calling me "psycho" when my user name is LAWN psycho is not trying to stretch things a bit?

Regarding you last sentence, you tell me PRECISELY what I have posted that is illegal? If not I think you have libeled me and should retract that sentence. I'm not kidding.

OMG what have I done!

Yes psycho I retract everything I have said that has gotten you upset.

Please calm down, I don't want to be responsible for making you do something that you might regret.

Please have a good evening and have a happy easter!

[lawn psycho]

Originally Posted by Rusty

OMG what have I done!

Yes psycho I retract everything I have said that has gotten you upset.

Please calm down, I don't want to be responsible for making you do something that you might regret.

Please have a good evening and have a happy easter!

Rusty, I have more years of education than many people on this board combined. Not arrogance, fact. Way more to lose than the average schmuck by wanting to waste my time with Bear Island.

If you can't pick out the difference between humor and reality than maybe you should find some self-help books before the stores close tonight.

You can act like a child by only using part of my user name which is fine but in the context in which you are using it I consider you to be an a__

Any day you feel you can take me on in a public debate in front of an audience regarding rafting or the speed limit just name the time and place and I'll be there.

So tell me what your hobbies are so we can ridicule you? I'll show you how easy it is to pick apart just about anything people do. The only reason I reply in this forum is to make sure the "other side" is heard. Politics and perception is why a SL is in place. Your ideals of safety still allude you. Just want to remind you of the real world....

I just bit off the head of a chocolate bunny! Better go round up the bunny police

[lawn psycho]

Originally Posted by jrc

I don't have the power to make your dreams come true. Maybe you have me confused with someone?

As far as I can remember, no one advocated no speed limit at all times and places either on the water or the road. I know I don't.

Now as Lawn Psycho has yet again gone over the line, and you are just playing, I will once again try to stay out of this arguement.

Never have and never will own a boat that can break 45 mph. So why do keep jumping back in?

Over the line? So driving a boat around Bear Island is over the line? You guys are so full of yourselves.

If I want to circle Bear Island you can bet your butt I'll do it. You tell me what part of driving my boat around Bear Island would be illegal? Please enlighten me jrc. I'll all ears.

Over the line is calling someone's passion out as some sinister behavior. Owning a performance boat is not illegal but Rusty wants to believe a speed limit with make the disappear from the lake. It's perfectly legal to own and register boats. Rusty's own words PROVE that he is specifically target certain boats. That's over the line.

I want to know what hobbies Rusty partakes in so we can critizize his activities.

I could give a rats @$$ if you "think" something is out of line. Rusty wants to poke people in the eye by making fun of them and I was returning in kind. Deal with it.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by jrc

Taking the speed limit off interstates would not necessarilly mean an increase in accidents and deaths. Search autobahn.

jrc,

I agree with you. As I said in my earlier post "I’ll compromise with you as long as I can get the speed limit removed from the interstates".

There are civil engineering DESIGN CRITERIA involved with interstate highways that will allow for fast speeds.

Also as we all know there hasn't been any engineering studies done on lakes to allow the Go Fast Be Loud (GFBL) boats to go at full throttle like autos can on interstate highways.

So what do you say? Can I go ahead with the petition?

[lawn psycho]

Originally Posted by Rusty

jrc,

I agree with you. As I said in my earlier post "I’ll compromise with you as long as I can get the speed limit removed from the interstates".

There are civil engineering DESIGN CRITERIA involved with interstate highways that will allow for fast speeds.

Also as we all know there hasn't been any engineering studies done on lakes to allow the Go Fast Be Loud (GFBL) boats to go at full throttle like autos can on interstate highways.

So what do you say? Can I go ahead with the petition?

Rusty, take a boat at 50 MPH and then shut off the throttle. Notice how quickly the boat stops? With no brakes even!

We already have the data that shows no accidents at or above the current speed limits after literally decades of of being that way. Nothing like emperical data to squash pointless blather....

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by lawn psycho

Rusty, take a boat at 50 MPH and then shut off the throttle. Notice how quickly the boat stops? With no brakes even!

Why the h*** don't you ask someone else to break the law on lake Winnipesaukee by going 50 MPH. Didn't you know that the speed limit is 45 MPH?
All I can say is that I'm sure glad that you don't own a GFBL boat!!!

[lawn psycho]

Originally Posted by Rusty

Why the h*** don't you ask someone else to break the law on lake Winnipesaukee by going 50 MPH. Didn't you know that the speed limit is 45 MPH?
All I can say is that I'm sure glad that you don't own a GFBL boat!!!

Rusty be cute all you want but facts are facts. Notice that whenever we talk data you deflect? That does not go unnoticed. I'm not going to cut you any slack. Since you brought it up, where's the data that supports the need for a 45 MPH limit?

Also, I did not say to do it on Winni so you made assumptions. Yeah, now a boat going 50 MPH is some awful thing to happen. Maybe I'll buy one and circle Bear Island like a shark

If SB-27 does not pass, I do not see 45 MPH staying law forever......

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by lawn psycho

Also, I did not say to do it on Winni so you made assumptions. Yeah, now a boat going 50 MPH is some awful thing to happen. Maybe I'll buy one and circle Bear Island like a shark

Ya know what psycho, your joking around about taunting people is going to land you into a heap of trouble someday. It’s really too too bad that the honest hard working people on Bear Island need to have a dozen security cameras around their property just to protect themselves from jokesters like you. Your comments might seem like jokes to you, but I’ll bet that they take them pretty serious.

Turing your boom box up as loud as you can get it and also circling the island like a shark might seem harmless to you, but who knows what else you might do.

Psycho…it’s just not funny anymore…..and please stop it!!!

If you want to attack me, then go ahead, but when you make comments about my posts, please don’t make jokes about what you want to do to other people.

[lawn psycho]

Originally Posted by Rusty

Ya know what psycho, your joking around about taunting people is going to land you into a heap of trouble someday. It’s really too too bad that the honest hard working people on Bear Island need to have a dozen security cameras around their property just to protect themselves from jokesters like you. Your comments might seem like jokes to you, but I’ll bet that they take them pretty serious.

Turing your boom box up as loud as you can get it and also circling the island like a shark might seem harmless to you, but who knows what else you might do.

Psycho…it’s just not funny anymore…..and please stop it!!!

If you want to attack me, then go ahead, but when you make comments about my posts, please don’t make jokes about what you want to do to other people.

That's Mr. Lawn Psycho too you.

You constantly want to deflect. So what hobbies do you like Rusty so we can pick apart whatever it is that interests you.

Spare us all the diatribes. Nothing that I have said construes illegal activity although you desperately want to grasp at straws.

Again, where's the data?