Victoria Pier - Alton Bay

Island Girl · 05-01-2005, 05:10 PM

Nice work, McDude. I really enjoyed the history and the pictures. Pretty soon you will be doing speaking engagements on Winnipesaukee history!

Just Sold · 05-01-2005, 10:39 PM

McDude,

As usual you did a great job!

Thanks for the post on history of the "Pier". I have many memories of visiting there in my youth and into the 70's. In the 70's I can remember going down very early in the morning from The Bay Side Motel (now Bay Side Inn) to get a morning coffee and paper. It was great to have a store you could get to by boat. You can still do that at the Owl's Nest today.

Here is a link to a post card I posted from the early 60's of Victoria Pier. You can see they sold Gulf Gas then. (sign in lower right of card). Also note the covered area to the right of the gas sign.
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopo...cat=500&page=3

gtxrider · 05-19-2005, 09:54 PM

It brings back a memory! Back in the early 60's my grandfather picked up a Scott Atwater 10HP outboard that ran great in a garbage can at home. My dad rented a row boat at Victoria Pier and we set out for Sandy Point. Near where the boat ramp is located we stopped forward progress but the motor was still running. Dad tilted the motor out of the water and to his and our suprise the gear case had broken off. That was the end of our boating.

We got home and we got a NEW (left over) 1963 Evinrude 10HP That was a fun little motor.

If some one wants to dive the area there is a old prop on the bottom.

I also saw a car and trailer that had backed down the ramp and was completely under water.

nj2nh · 05-27-2005, 07:35 PM

Isn't that first picture really of the Alton Bay Inn? That couldn't be a precursor to Victoria's Pier.

I remember Victoria's Pier as a soda fountain. Only been in it once since it became a restaurant - the one before Shibley's took over.

Jersey Girl

mcdude · 05-28-2005, 10:13 AM

Hi Jersey Girl: that first image absolutely is the Alton Bay Inn or what it used to look like when it was the Winnipiseogee House ....before the fire. Since the article referenced the Winnipesaukee House, I stuck in a photo of the place that just happened to be laying around!

nj2nh · 05-31-2005, 06:28 PM

Ah, got it now. Should have paid better attention. Your research skills are top-notch, by the way.

In the last couple of years, I have won a few auctions of Winnipesaukee memorabilia on Ebay. The two best are quite old with B&W photographs of the Lakes Region. I thought it would be fun to try to find the point of view of the photographer, but so much has changed that I know I never would. At least I could identify the Inn, though.

Jersey Girl

mcdude · 06-05-2006, 05:57 PM

A pre-1939 photo of Victoria Pier showing the Old Mt. Washington in the distance.

mcdude · 01-25-2008, 08:33 AM

From the Baysider

Quote:

Shibley's lease will go to Alton voters
Selectmen approve one-year temporary lease

January 24, 2008
ALTON — Shibley's at the Pier will be able to continue serving customers at its location on Alton Bay for at least another year, after the board of selectmen voted Monday night to renew the restaurant's lease.

While proprietors David and Amy Shibley own the restaurant itself, the land on which the building sits is owned by the town, which voted in 1992 to lease it to them for a period of 15 years.

The original lease officially came to an end on Dec. 31, but the selectmen voted at that point to extend it for another month in order to finalize negotiations with the Shibleys.

Board Chairman Alan Sherwood explained Monday night that during the 15 years since the original lease was signed, state law changed to grant voters the authority to ratify lease agreements for periods longer than one year.

With that in mind, Sherwood said, the selectmen negotiated a new seven-year lease with the Shibleys, but also opted to sign a temporary one-year lease in the event that voters choose not to approve the longer lease at the polls in March.

The new lease agreement, which was developed with the assistance of both a professional appraiser and Selectman Bill Curtin, who has extensive experience in the real estate field, states that the Shibley's will pay the town $7,087 the first year.

According to the terms of the lease, that figure will increase by 5 percent annually for the remaining six years.

Most of the terms of the new agreement were carried over from the old lease, Sherwood said, including a provision stating that in addition to the annual fee, the Shibleys will also be responsible for paying all property taxes assessed to both the land and the building.

One new addition to the lease agreement, however, was a sketch of the building and the land around it, which was never included in the original lease.

"We all think this is a fair resolution to the issue," Sherwood said, adding that the one-year lease agreement will become null and void if voters pass the seven-year lease.

Copies of both the one-year and seven-year lease agreements are available for public viewing at the Town Clerk's office.

livefreeordie · 11-03-2008, 09:49 PM

Allbrick Ouellette built and owned Sandy point and the Ouellette family still owns and runs Sandy Point today.

05-01-2005, 05:10 PM	#1
Island Girl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Central MA Posts: 2,356 Thanks: 18 Thanked 574 Times in 181 Posts	Great Story Nice work, McDude. I really enjoyed the history and the pictures. Pretty soon you will be doing speaking engagements on Winnipesaukee history! __________________ Island Girl ....... Make Lemonade

05-01-2005, 10:39 PM	#2
Just Sold Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Suncook, NH, but at The Lake at Heart Posts: 2,615 Thanks: 1,083 Thanked 434 Times in 210 Posts	Great Job McDude, As usual you did a great job! Thanks for the post on history of the "Pier". I have many memories of visiting there in my youth and into the 70's. In the 70's I can remember going down very early in the morning from The Bay Side Motel (now Bay Side Inn) to get a morning coffee and paper. It was great to have a store you could get to by boat. You can still do that at the Owl's Nest today. Here is a link to a post card I posted from the early 60's of Victoria Pier. You can see they sold Gulf Gas then. (sign in lower right of card). Also note the covered area to the right of the gas sign. http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopo...cat=500&page=3 __________________ Just Sold At the lake the stress of daily life just melts away. Pro Re Nata Last edited by Just Sold; 05-01-2005 at 10:43 PM.

05-19-2005, 09:54 PM	#3
gtxrider Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Piscataway, NJ Posts: 1,030 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 24 Posts	Nice work, again! It brings back a memory! Back in the early 60's my grandfather picked up a Scott Atwater 10HP outboard that ran great in a garbage can at home. My dad rented a row boat at Victoria Pier and we set out for Sandy Point. Near where the boat ramp is located we stopped forward progress but the motor was still running. Dad tilted the motor out of the water and to his and our suprise the gear case had broken off. That was the end of our boating. We got home and we got a NEW (left over) 1963 Evinrude 10HP That was a fun little motor. If some one wants to dive the area there is a old prop on the bottom. I also saw a car and trailer that had backed down the ramp and was completely under water.

05-27-2005, 07:35 PM	#4
nj2nh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 533 Thanks: 81 Thanked 47 Times in 27 Posts	Victoria Pier? Isn't that first picture really of the Alton Bay Inn? That couldn't be a precursor to Victoria's Pier. I remember Victoria's Pier as a soda fountain. Only been in it once since it became a restaurant - the one before Shibley's took over. Jersey Girl

05-31-2005, 06:28 PM	#6
nj2nh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 533 Thanks: 81 Thanked 47 Times in 27 Posts	Thanks Ah, got it now. Should have paid better attention. Your research skills are top-notch, by the way. In the last couple of years, I have won a few auctions of Winnipesaukee memorabilia on Ebay. The two best are quite old with B&W photographs of the Lakes Region. I thought it would be fun to try to find the point of view of the photographer, but so much has changed that I know I never would. At least I could identify the Inn, though. Jersey Girl

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05-28-2005, 10:13 AM	#5
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,367 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,057 Times in 495 Posts	Hi Jersey Girl: that first image absolutely is the Alton Bay Inn or what it used to look like when it was the Winnipiseogee House ....before the fire. Since the article referenced the Winnipesaukee House, I stuck in a photo of the place that just happened to be laying around!

06-05-2006, 05:57 PM	#7
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,367 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,057 Times in 495 Posts	A pre-1939 photo of Victoria Pier showing the Old Mt. Washington in the distance. Last edited by mcdude; 10-12-2006 at 05:01 PM.

11-03-2008, 09:49 PM	#9
livefreeordie Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Alton bay Posts: 61 Thanks: 9 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts	Allbrick Ouellette built and owned Sandy point and the Ouellette family still owns and runs Sandy Point today.