Hurricane Precautions

brk-lnt · 08-25-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Breakwater

The depth of water under your boat at the dock is something to carefully consider. 2-3 feet of water depth at a dock is ok until you begin to experience true 6-8 foot waves. The trough of a wave that height will likely leave you with less than a foot under the boat with each passing wave. Keel and hull damage is almost certain.

Mooring is best if...you have enough "rode" or line (Chapman's calls for 7-10X the water depth for stormy conditions which is difficult at the shoreline) to allow for the rise and fall of significant wave height. Also nylon line that stretches and/or a rubber shock absorber built into the line.

If left at a dock, a 4 way tie is best or a combination of lines, fenders, and an anchor off to the side opposite the dock that holds the boat away from the dock.

Most important is to park the boat bow out to the waves. A boat tied "stern to" is a "sinking" waiting to happen.

And remember to trim up the drive!!

Much of that is based on oceanic hurricanes. 6-8 foot waves in most places on the lake seem nearly impossible, especially since the hurricane will be diminished by the time it hits.

CGI3 · 08-25-2011, 10:08 PM

Everyone worried about their boats?? Check out the accuweather update. Were doomed. This is going to be the 100 year storm. Nothing we have ever seen in our lives! For those of us that have basements we can expect 3-4 feet of water, roofs blown off, pretty much any tree over 15' will be toppled. Electicity? plan on 2-3 weeks without it. Please! At the very most it will be a tropical storm, wind gusts up to 30 mph, a bit of rain, and the sun will be out by late Sun. afternoon.

trfour · 08-25-2011, 11:14 PM

I have seen waves on Lake Winnipesaukee in the 6 to 8 foot range. However, I never actually got out of the boat with a ruler to measure them.

... And, at these times there want no hurricanes in the area!

Irene's winds are projected to be in the 60 MPH range while passing through with her center being concentrated in the western boarder area between New Hampshire and Vermont. This is not good for the Lakes Region, as it will be in the strongest sustained wind area of the storm.

Again, be prepared and keep an eye on this one!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/...news/#44279864

Terry
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samosetguy · 08-26-2011, 12:36 PM

The Samoset condo association is asking all owners to remove their boats from the docks and mooring field before the storm. I was surprised by the request and am wondering if it's an over reaction. I've been reading the updates and still can't determine if it's necessary or not. Thanks to the news media, I've become skeptical of all weather reports so now I don't take any storm seriously (which is bad).

I've made plans to remove my boat tomorrow to be safe.

We're a little unique in that 25 mph or greater sustained winds in an Easterly or South/South Western path can create some big waves by the time they hit our shore. It looks like weather.com is predicting approximately 60-70 mph sustained winds (right?) but in a northern path (if the eye is west of us). The wind speed is dangerous but if it's northern we'd be fine until the storm starts to pull out.

I'm a little afraid I will pull up to the Gilford Town Docks on Saturday to take out my boat and the line of people doing the same will be insane. But, it looks like most people will not bother to take out their boat. Right? I have a friend in a dock at Meredith Marina who says they're not worried at all. Should they be?

Where is Dick Albert when you need him?

KBoater · 08-26-2011, 02:04 PM

The things that I’ve done during Hurricanes
The things that I’ve done during Hurricanes with my boats.

1) At a very young age, I run a Chris Craft onto a beach about a week before a hurricane.
The shaft was bent and have to go in reverse all the way home ( about 2 mi). The hurricane came and the saw horse dock lifted and floated way.
The boat sunk and bashed on the rocks.
The good thing was my mother never found out about the boat grounding.

2) My boat was the last to be hauled at the club and the sling lift motor stopped so the boat swayed in the sling throughout the hurricane
.

3) A friend wanted to use my mooring at my island house. He had a heavy 30’ Sea Ray. The mooring got dragged to shallow water.

4) Now I am having my boat hauled since I cannot do a 4 way tie down. I'll sit in my home and hope the surrounding tree don't hit the house.

codeman671 · 08-26-2011, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by samosetguy

I'm a little afraid I will pull up to the Gilford Town Docks on Saturday to take out my boat and the line of people doing the same will be insane. But, it looks like most people will not bother to take out their boat. Right? I have a friend in a dock at Meredith Marina who says they're not worried at all. Should they be?

Where is Dick Albert when you need him?

Glendale was steady today. Lots of jet skis coming out and a fair amount of islanders towing boats in to shore to remove. I pulled 3.

sunsationdave · 08-26-2011, 05:00 PM

They just reported it will be a tropical storm for newengland
Thats good news on vacation starting at 5 pm today as long as the lake level comes back up to get my boat off the lift for monday

trfour · 08-26-2011, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sunsationdave

They just reported it will be a tropical storm for newengland
Thats good news on vacation starting at 5 pm today as long as the lake level comes back up to get my boat off the lift for monday

Aren't you the optimist!!. Irene, tropical or otherwise is huge, and will not be like a passing shower! With wind speeds of say 60 MPH, bouncing around and through the mountain-es surroundings of the Lake, she could spawn a few tornadoes, to boot!!
Now, I'm not trying to rain on your vacation, just be aware and safe!!

Terry
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RailroadJoe · 08-26-2011, 07:05 PM

To you young folks, I remember the hurricane of 1938. No name then and it surprised a lot of people and ended up causing a lot of damage and lives lost. That one tore through, up the Connecticut River valley and yet dropped so many trees that it took longer to clean them than it did for the tornado that swpet through here 2 years ago.

Be prepared pick your apples and peaches tomorrow. They will be lots of drops after Monday.

jetskier · 08-26-2011, 07:10 PM

Went out on the jetski today...it was the best day of the summer. The weather was amazing and the boat traffic was nonexistant.

The current in the channel is amazing...they clearly have the dam wide open to drop the lake level ahead of the storrm
Everyone seems to be putting up the covers and side panels on their boats. It seems as though the rain is going to be the biggest issue. There don't seem to be too many boats being pulled. I left the jetski on the mooring...we will see.

Jetskier

NoBozo · 08-26-2011, 07:50 PM

I took a ride down the hill to the Hinkley Yacht Yard today. This is a Mega Yacht boat yard and marina on the west side of Aquidneck Island . The scene was Controlled Mayhem. Every boat is being hauled. The typical boat length is 70 feet....mostly sail. Every boat must come out..or GO somewhere else. They will be working around the clock.

I talked with someone whom I took to be management. They are concerned that the Entire Marina, which is pretty well protected all around from seas by granite walls built by the Navy a century ago..... (Floating Docks inside) might just float away en mass when the "Surge" ..12'..?? comes through. The normal tide rise here is 5 feet. The pilings holding the floating docks in place are just SO Tall. The concern is that the surge will LIFT everything Over the tops of the pilings and everything sails off up the bay.

So everything is being hauled onto land. NOW.. once on shore..they have to run lines and guy wires to the tops of the masts of the big boats (130+ feet tall) and anchor them at the bottom with very large concrete blocks (called dead men) so the boats won't blow over.

Boating is a hassle when a storm comes...no matter how big (or small) you are...

Good Luck My Friends up at tha lake. NB

fatlazyless · 08-27-2011, 12:25 PM

Come on Irene, www.noaa.gov, and gimme a great big wet kiss!

lak · 08-27-2011, 05:38 PM

Boat US has been pretty active about talking about the safest and least safe ways to store boats in hurricanes.

They claim the least safest way to store a boat is on a boat lift. I've seen this multiple times in their magazines, and I'm sure they have the details somewhere on their website, just don't know exactly where at the moment.

SAMIAM · 08-27-2011, 07:35 PM

I'm so scared.........put an extra bumper on the boat.....couple of bungee's on the lawn furniture....going to work tomorrow as usual.
If you listen to the media,no one will be left alive after sunday.

NoBozo · 08-27-2011, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SAMIAM

I'm so scared.........put an extra bumper on the boat.....couple of bungee's on the lawn furniture....going to work tomorrow as usual.
If you listen to the media,no one will be left alive after sunday.

I hear ya my friend. I've been watching ALL the channels on cable and local. The template is Total Destruction. The "Eye Wall" collapsed over 10 hours ago and no mention. SAME tape of some %$%# "weather reporter" standing on the beach up to his ankles in water......Wind 26........Hour after hour.

The Media: We can't let this STORY Go Away.

I was cussing and swearing an hour ago and my wife told me to go take a shower..SO I Did. I feel better now......Yeh

NB

trfour · 08-27-2011, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RailroadJoe

To you young folks, I remember the hurricane of 1938. No name then and it surprised a lot of people and ended up causing a lot of damage and lives lost. That one tore through, up the Connecticut River valley and yet dropped so many trees that it took longer to clean them than it did for the tornado that swpet through here 2 years ago.

Be prepared pick your apples and peaches tomorrow. They will be lots of drops after Monday.

I wasn't around yet, however my Dad was, and got caught while driving truck with trees and power lines coming through the windshield of his ride, at the time down near Plymouth Ma. Needless to say, he was late for dinner that evening, however and most appreciatively welcomed home when he got there!! He was among the very lucky to have survived that one, and this allowed our family to move on!!
I thank you for the reminder, RailroadJoe!
Terry
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08-25-2011, 11:14 PM	#3
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,069 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	I would Suggest To Prepare For The Worst I have seen waves on Lake Winnipesaukee in the 6 to 8 foot range. However, I never actually got out of the boat with a ruler to measure them. ... And, at these times there want no hurricanes in the area! Irene's winds are projected to be in the 60 MPH range while passing through with her center being concentrated in the western boarder area between New Hampshire and Vermont. This is not good for the Lakes Region, as it will be in the strongest sustained wind area of the storm. Again, be prepared and keep an eye on this one! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/...news/#44279864 Terry ___________________________________________ __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

08-26-2011, 02:04 PM	#5
KBoater Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wolfeboro Posts: 521 Thanks: 10 Thanked 29 Times in 15 Posts	The things that I’ve done during Hurricanes The things that I’ve done during Hurricanes The things that I’ve done during Hurricanes with my boats. 1) At a very young age, I run a Chris Craft onto a beach about a week before a hurricane. The shaft was bent and have to go in reverse all the way home ( about 2 mi). The hurricane came and the saw horse dock lifted and floated way. The boat sunk and bashed on the rocks. The good thing was my mother never found out about the boat grounding. 2) My boat was the last to be hauled at the club and the sling lift motor stopped so the boat swayed in the sling throughout the hurricane . 3) A friend wanted to use my mooring at my island house. He had a heavy 30’ Sea Ray. The mooring got dragged to shallow water. 4) Now I am having my boat hauled since I cannot do a 4 way tie down. I'll sit in my home and hope the surrounding tree don't hit the house. __________________ Home Permanently in NH

08-26-2011, 05:00 PM	#7
sunsationdave Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	storm They just reported it will be a tropical storm for newengland Thats good news on vacation starting at 5 pm today as long as the lake level comes back up to get my boat off the lift for monday

08-26-2011, 07:10 PM	#10
jetskier Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Reading, MA and South Down Shores Posts: 854 Thanks: 57 Thanked 183 Times in 114 Posts	Today Went out on the jetski today...it was the best day of the summer. The weather was amazing and the boat traffic was nonexistant. The current in the channel is amazing...they clearly have the dam wide open to drop the lake level ahead of the storrm Everyone seems to be putting up the covers and side panels on their boats. It seems as though the rain is going to be the biggest issue. There don't seem to be too many boats being pulled. I left the jetski on the mooring...we will see. Jetskier

08-26-2011, 07:50 PM	#11
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	RI Narragansett Bay Report I took a ride down the hill to the Hinkley Yacht Yard today. This is a Mega Yacht boat yard and marina on the west side of Aquidneck Island . The scene was Controlled Mayhem. Every boat is being hauled. The typical boat length is 70 feet....mostly sail. Every boat must come out..or GO somewhere else. They will be working around the clock. I talked with someone whom I took to be management. They are concerned that the Entire Marina, which is pretty well protected all around from seas by granite walls built by the Navy a century ago..... (Floating Docks inside) might just float away en mass when the "Surge" ..12'..?? comes through. The normal tide rise here is 5 feet. The pilings holding the floating docks in place are just SO Tall. The concern is that the surge will LIFT everything Over the tops of the pilings and everything sails off up the bay. So everything is being hauled onto land. NOW.. once on shore..they have to run lines and guy wires to the tops of the masts of the big boats (130+ feet tall) and anchor them at the bottom with very large concrete blocks (called dead men) so the boats won't blow over. Boating is a hassle when a storm comes...no matter how big (or small) you are... Good Luck My Friends up at tha lake. NB

08-25-2011, 10:08 PM	#2
CGI3 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 91 Thanks: 135 Thanked 18 Times in 11 Posts	Everyone worried about their boats?? Check out the accuweather update. Were doomed. This is going to be the 100 year storm. Nothing we have ever seen in our lives! For those of us that have basements we can expect 3-4 feet of water, roofs blown off, pretty much any tree over 15' will be toppled. Electicity? plan on 2-3 weeks without it. Please! At the very most it will be a tropical storm, wind gusts up to 30 mph, a bit of rain, and the sun will be out by late Sun. afternoon.

08-26-2011, 12:36 PM	#4
samosetguy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 61 Thanks: 42 Thanked 35 Times in 14 Posts	Irene The Samoset condo association is asking all owners to remove their boats from the docks and mooring field before the storm. I was surprised by the request and am wondering if it's an over reaction. I've been reading the updates and still can't determine if it's necessary or not. Thanks to the news media, I've become skeptical of all weather reports so now I don't take any storm seriously (which is bad). I've made plans to remove my boat tomorrow to be safe. We're a little unique in that 25 mph or greater sustained winds in an Easterly or South/South Western path can create some big waves by the time they hit our shore. It looks like weather.com is predicting approximately 60-70 mph sustained winds (right?) but in a northern path (if the eye is west of us). The wind speed is dangerous but if it's northern we'd be fine until the storm starts to pull out. I'm a little afraid I will pull up to the Gilford Town Docks on Saturday to take out my boat and the line of people doing the same will be insane. But, it looks like most people will not bother to take out their boat. Right? I have a friend in a dock at Meredith Marina who says they're not worried at all. Should they be? Where is Dick Albert when you need him?

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08-26-2011, 07:05 PM	#9
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	To you young folks, I remember the hurricane of 1938. No name then and it surprised a lot of people and ended up causing a lot of damage and lives lost. That one tore through, up the Connecticut River valley and yet dropped so many trees that it took longer to clean them than it did for the tornado that swpet through here 2 years ago. Be prepared pick your apples and peaches tomorrow. They will be lots of drops after Monday.

08-27-2011, 12:25 PM	#12
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,835 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 302 Thanked 1,033 Times in 752 Posts	...kiss me Irene! Come on Irene, www.noaa.gov, and gimme a great big wet kiss! __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake! Last edited by fatlazyless; 08-28-2011 at 10:05 AM.

08-27-2011, 05:38 PM	#13
lak Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Boat US has been pretty active about talking about the safest and least safe ways to store boats in hurricanes. They claim the least safest way to store a boat is on a boat lift. I've seen this multiple times in their magazines, and I'm sure they have the details somewhere on their website, just don't know exactly where at the moment.

08-27-2011, 07:35 PM	#14
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,918 Thanks: 341 Thanked 1,692 Times in 594 Posts	I'm so scared.........put an extra bumper on the boat.....couple of bungee's on the lawn furniture....going to work tomorrow as usual. If you listen to the media,no one will be left alive after sunday.