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Old 11-17-2011, 07:17 AM   #1
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You might find it cheaper overall to replace your alarm panel with a cellular-capable unit if you have problems finding a compatible system there.

It shouldn't be THAT hard to find someone to handle the directv setup, it's mostly just a matter of running the coax from the dish down into the house, it's really not a 'specialist' kind of job. There are a couple of home theater shops in the area, have you tried contacting any of them?
Unfortunately our alarm system is also a home automation system hence is very expensive.

The issues I have with DirecTV relates to the number of independent boxes we can have versus lnb's etc.
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:56 AM   #2
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The issues I have with DirecTV relates to the number of independent boxes we can have versus lnb's etc.
It's been a while, but I seem to remember that the LNB->box issue is solveable. I believe they switch the polarization filter on every other channel (horizontal on even channels, vertical on odd ones) and it's not so much that you have to have a separate LNB for each box, but that you can only share an LNB between boxes that is on the same polarization mode. (ie...box1 and box2 can share LNB1 and view different channels if they're both on an odd-numbered channel) If you have 2 LNBs, and a smart LNB multiplexer, it'll work with any number of boxes. The multiplexer just fixes one to horizontal and the other to vertical, then routes the request from the boxes to the LNB with the correct filter.

I think...like I said, it's been a while.
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:43 AM   #3
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It's been a while, but I seem to remember that the LNB->box issue is solveable. I believe they switch the polarization filter on every other channel (horizontal on even channels, vertical on odd ones) and it's not so much that you have to have a separate LNB for each box, but that you can only share an LNB between boxes that is on the same polarization mode. (ie...box1 and box2 can share LNB1 and view different channels if they're both on an odd-numbered channel) If you have 2 LNBs, and a smart LNB multiplexer, it'll work with any number of boxes. The multiplexer just fixes one to horizontal and the other to vertical, then routes the request from the boxes to the LNB with the correct filter.

I think...like I said, it's been a while.
Those are some of the issues I alluded to. We have 4 TV's we regularly watch and 3 others that are sometimes watched. We currently have HD and 3 DVR's. We may want to watch the 110 and the 119 sat. The house was wired for cable. There are 3 different designs for multiswitches and I don't know which is best for us. I wonder if the receivers would be better located in a central spot or at the TV. If in a central spot how do you communicate to them from the room you're watching TV in.

Those are the issues that a provider/installer might address.
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Old 11-17-2011, 12:42 PM   #4
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You guys sound like you know the nuts and bolts of this better than me but let me offer a story. I was contacted by a home owner that had Direct TV installed and the installer ran sloppy cables and ruined a very expensive vinyl siding. I was contracted to repair the siding and have the wire re-routed. In investigating the need for all the extra cables I discovered this multi-switch and was simply able to use the existing in house cable lines. Each location has an independent DVR. The Owner was furious with DirectTV. The installer was adamant he had 2 run 2 cables to each installation. In my opinion they could have sold the multi-switch to the Owner during install but from what I understand the installer is an independent contractor working on a fixed per Diem. Running 2 wires gets him in and out quicker. Installing the multi-switch would have required a return trip, one that he may or may not have been paid for.

Just be cautious, it was a very sloppy (and expensive) install.

Here's the site for the switch that could have saved a lot of aggravation if installed initially: http://www.weaknees.com/swm-directv.php

The support at the site may help you with your question.

The Owner reports no issues with the switch and multiple HD TV's and DVRs.
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:12 PM   #5
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I spoke with a very nice and informative lady at Metrocast today. We have 2 DVR's and 2 TV's that are just straight to the cable outlet (No box).

She told me that they are about to get the MultiRoom DVR's. She guessed sometime in the next moth or so. Metrocast in Maryland and CT already have them.

She also walked me thru a few things to do on my DRV's that would recover the memory. She said that the amount of "recording" time has not changed on the current DVR's. I pushed all the buttons she told me to push and and got back to 0 percent full. I did have to wipe out all of my saved shows, which for me was no big deal. (I didn't need to watch the Patriots lose to the Giants in the superbowl anyway!)

Lastly, once the Multiroom DVR's are ready for this area, you will need to have a set top box on all TV's in the house, and you can have up to a total of 5 TV's that can access the MultiRoom DVR.

I was actually pleasantly impressed with he lady. She did tell me that they are all really sick of people calling and screaming that them..
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Is there any way you could post that reset sequence?

I'm hearing from various sources that the Customer Service from Metrocast during this change has been very good.

I'm sure they are tired of hearing people scream at them. Too bad Metrocast put them in this position. I still think the old Guide and DVR software was far superior to the latest.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:49 PM   #7
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I thought I saved the note pad I wrote it down on.... but I can't find it.

I don't want to guess, it was 5 or 6 steps, and I wouldn't want to be responsible for messing up peoples settings.

If you call Metrocast @ 524-4425 I'm sure they will walk you thru it also.
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Unfortunately our alarm system is also a home automation system hence is very expensive.

The issues I have with DirecTV relates to the number of independent boxes we can have versus lnb's etc.
DirecTV now uses better technology that will allow you to have up to 16 tuners working off of one dish. If you want a DVR at each TV that's up to eight DVRs as each DVR has two tuners. Also, they now have something called SWiM (Single Wire Multiswitch) that allows two-tuner DVRs to be served with just one RG-6 coaxial cable. Finally, my favorite recent DirecTV innovation is MRV, or multi-room viewing. I have three DVRs that are all networked together, so that I can watch anything recorded on one DVR on either of the other two.

Sorry to sound like a shill for DirecTV, but I'm very impressed with their service. Getting the same level of service (programming and equipment) from my local cable provider would probably cost me twice as much each month.
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Unfortunately our alarm system is also a home automation system hence is very expensive.
Is it HAI by any chance?
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Is it HAI by any chance?
Yes it is. Hopefully this isn't a dupe.
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Yes it is. Hopefully this isn't a dupe.
Ok, let me talk to a couple of my dealers for you. It's been many years since I dealt with HAI directly myself, but I'll see what people are doing for cellular monitoring. One of my guys just did a pretty nice 32,000 sqft house in Vegas that is using an HAI system (along with quite a bit of other cool stuff )

I've replaced my OmniPro panels and hvac gear with a different system. I have a couple of spare omnistats if you need one. I think I have an extra outdoor temp sensor maybe too...
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Ok, let me talk to a couple of my dealers for you. It's been many years since I dealt with HAI directly myself, but I'll see what people are doing for cellular monitoring. One of my guys just did a pretty nice 32,000 sqft house in Vegas that is using an HAI system (along with quite a bit of other cool stuff )

I've replaced my OmniPro panels and hvac gear with a different system. I have a couple of spare omnistats if you need one. I think I have an extra outdoor temp sensor maybe too...
We have 5 omnistat's. Right now 3 are the older style and 2 are new ones. Lightning has gradually taken out the older ones. The outdoor temp sensor is still working.

I( appreciate the offer .
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