Ice In

secondcurve · 01-17-2012, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Thunder

Somebody said yesterday he didn't think the lake would freeze last night...

Todays satellite pic showing most area lakes have ice...except the Big Lake and Sebago Lake. Not uncommon at all, IMO.

BT

Thanks nice visual. It looks like Squam is open, too.

Merrymeeting · 01-17-2012, 08:29 AM

Today's image will be different. Note that on the one posted yesterday, Merrymeeting Lake (dark spot to the right of Alton Bay finger) shows as open.

Until yesterday, it was. But yesterday it skimmed over, with still clear, dark ice. I expect this would show as "open" in a satellite image.

This morning the thin ice is covered with a light layer of snow so it's now white. However, there are already dark spots showing from water coming up along ice cracks. With above freezing temps in the next 24 hours, rain predicted, and then high winds, it will be interesting to see if it lasts.

Next weeks predicted warm temps will also have an impact.

AC2717 · 01-17-2012, 10:30 AM

today's time lapse on the Weirs cam, just the short light up time there has been today, shows the ice and snow receeding, man am I bummed

Bear Island South · 01-17-2012, 02:14 PM

This year is very similar to 2007. We were looking to buy a place on the lake and ended up taking a boat ride with our realtors on 1/18, by 2/14 we came over on snowmobiles to look again. I believe it will ice over but may be a short window of time.
2007 ice out was April 23rd.

codeman671 · 01-17-2012, 04:48 PM

It is pouring here in Milton. The temps for the next week do not look overly favorable for rapid ice growth. Next week sounds even warmer.

What do things look like from either Glendale to Mark or Meredith/Sheps to Mark? I need to get out if possible.

Slickcraft · 01-17-2012, 05:10 PM

We stopped by Glendale today. Thin ice from the docks part way to Pig then some open water. Some ice toward light 26 but mostly open water by light 26. Looking from Belknap Point mostly open water toward Welch, Round and Timber.

Bear247 · 01-17-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bear Island South

This year is very similar to 2007. We were looking to buy a place on the lake and ended up taking a boat ride with our realtors on 1/18, by 2/14 we came over on snowmobiles to look again. I believe it will ice over but may be a short window of time.
2007 ice out was April 23rd.

Welcome to Bear Island...

Merrymeeting · 01-18-2012, 10:43 AM

I woke up about 5 AM this morning because the wind sounded like the house was going to blow down. With the almost 40 degree temps yesterday and all the rain, I expected to see the ice on Merrymeeting mostly gone once the sun was up.

Much to my surprise, the lake is still mostly iced over. A few spots have opened up and all the snow cover is gone. But despite the wind, the open spots don't seem to be getting any larger. The cold temps of the next few days should lock it in.

BoulderBronco · 01-18-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Merrymeeting

I woke up about 5 AM this morning because the wind sounded like the house was going to blow down. With the almost 40 degree temps yesterday and all the rain, I expected to see the ice on Merrymeeting mostly gone once the sun was up.

Much to my surprise, the lake is still mostly iced over. A few spots have opened up and all the snow cover is gone. But despite the wind, the open spots don't seem to be getting any larger. The cold temps of the next few days should lock it in.

SWEET!!!

codeman671 · 01-18-2012, 12:40 PM

I just came back from a drive up to Gilford. Alton Bay is iced almost to the mouth, but it looks paper thin. The broads are completely open and the wind is howling. I followed the shore roads up to Gilford and saw nothing for real ice even along the edges. Nothing at Glendale looking out towards Mark, Round and Timber. Just a bit of ice between the dock fingers.

I stopped at a property in behind Barn Door, there was ice piled up in that sheltered area behind but you could see whitecaps beyond. Stopped at Rum Point as well, wide open and windy.

AC2717 · 01-18-2012, 05:06 PM

Wind Wind Go Away, Come on back another day
Wind Wind Go Away, Come on back another day
Wind Wind Go Away, Come on back another day

magicrobotmonkey · 01-18-2012, 06:14 PM

Anyone have eyes on Meredith Bay? How's it holding up to all this wind?

winniboy · 01-18-2012, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bear Island South

This year is very similar to 2007. We were looking to buy a place on the lake and ended up taking a boat ride with our realtors on 1/18, by 2/14 we came over on snowmobiles to look again. I believe it will ice over but may be a short window of time.
2007 ice out was April 23rd.

am i right assuming that is Island Service Company's boat?

Bear Island South · 01-19-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by winniboy

am i right assuming that is Island Service Company's boat?

yes it is...Buddy brought us over from Cattle Landing.
We had to break through a few hundred feet of ice before we hit open water

Alton Bay · 01-19-2012, 11:04 AM

Are there any companies like Emerson that fly over the lake to declare "Ice-In"?
Wondering if the Broads were iced over today???

winniboy · 01-19-2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bear Island South

yes it is...Buddy brought us over from Cattle Landing.
We had to break through a few hundred feet of ice before we hit open water

thats my dad lol
..

great pictures and a positive update.. glad to see the bay looking icy

Bear Island South · 01-20-2012, 08:15 AM

Ice showing on most of the webcams - can we declare ice-in

JPerron2004 · 01-20-2012, 10:52 AM

anyone know if it is frozen over near ellacoya, i know thats usually one of the last places to freeze?

FLAG! · 01-20-2012, 01:16 PM

That skim of ice didn't hold up. Must have been windy yesterday. I hope the ice that's there now can hold up through next week's warm up and wind. Snow now would be bad.

Slickcraft · 01-20-2012, 01:35 PM

Photo taken today from Belknap Point Road looking out between Welch and Forty Islands. It looks about the same looking out from Ellacoya toward the Broads. A lot of blue water out there.

The area looking out from Glendale is skimmed over out past light 26.

Ridgefarmer63 · 01-20-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Slickcraft

Photo taken today from Belknap Point Road looking out between Welch and Forty Islands. It looks about the same looking out from Ellacoya toward the Broads. A lot of blue water out there.

The area looking out from Glendale is skimmed over out past light 26.

That's a nice shot of the lake right there Slickcraft. Thanks !

Bear Island South · 01-26-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by winniboy

am i right assuming that is Island Service Company's boat?

Winniboy, I know Island Services does a lot of island work during the winter month's, have they started any yet? If so how are crossing the ice?

winniboy · 01-26-2012, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bear Island South

Winniboy, I know Island Services does a lot of island work during the winter month's, have they started any yet? If so how are crossing the ice?

Still not on the island yet, they have a project on bear for the winter building a new house. Ice is to think for boats but to thin to cross (safely) with snowmobiles. they are waiting for the ice to solid up a little bit, if it doesn't they can break out the fan boat.

Island Girl · 01-26-2012, 01:20 PM

For a lot of the lake, the ice is still too thin for even the air boats. They weigh a lot and will break through, creating rivers of water. The wind can use these rivers to break up what ice there is and the lake will never freeze. Given the forecast for the next week, growing much ice is iffy at best.

In a couple of days we will start with our ice-out guesses. How about March 1st?? !!!

IG

winniboy · 01-26-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Island Girl

For a lot of the lake, the ice is still too thin for even the air boats. They weigh a lot and will break through, creating rivers of water. The wind can use these rivers to break up what ice there is and the lake will never freeze. Given the forecast for the next week, growing much ice is iffy at best.

In a couple of days we will start with our ice-out guesses. How about March 1st?? !!!

IG

The air boats can go out on water if needed. We will not be going out if not needed. id say april 1st

Island Girl · 01-26-2012, 01:36 PM

Yup, drove one myself s few years back! As the ice gets thin, I love the undulating ice behind the air boat. It looks like waves of water but is really waves of thin punky ice. I think i have a movie of riding in the airboat somewhere on http://rattlesnakecam.com/pictures.htm. If not I will put one there in the next day or so.

CA

codeman671 · 01-26-2012, 01:54 PM

Some airboats dont do as much damage to the ice. The yellow 1000 Islands that I had was great. I could easily traverse from water to ice without plowing through like the standard square hulls do. I rode in the ISS airboat last spring a week or so before ice-out, it is the traditional flat bottom square nose style. It had a tough time getting on top of the ice, granted there were 5 of us in the boat.

March 1 sounds great to me!

TJNed · 01-26-2012, 04:03 PM

I'm new here to the forum, but have been keeping a watchful eye trying to find out how the ice is developing on the lake. Me and my family come up each year (about 15 years now) for the derby and we would like to fish the channel by Governors Island. I know there is usually open water under the bridge but what does the rest of the nearby area look like? I'd like to get out to the point in between Governors Island and Weir's beach.

Pineedles · 01-26-2012, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Island Girl

For a lot of the lake, the ice is still too thin for even the air boats. They weigh a lot and will break through, creating rivers of water. The wind can use these rivers to break up what ice there is and the lake will never freeze. Given the forecast for the next week, growing much ice is iffy at best.

In a couple of days we will start with our ice-out guesses. How about March 1st?? !!!

IG

You know if that ever happens, we will be the World Poster child for global warming.

upthesaukee · 01-26-2012, 09:46 PM

Hope you enjoy the forum and the lakes region.

Bear247 · 01-26-2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by winniboy

Still not on the island yet, they have a project on bear for the winter building a new house. Ice is to think for boats but to thin to cross (safely) with snowmobiles. they are waiting for the ice to solid up a little bit, if it doesn't they can break out the fan boat.

Poor Erne is never going to get his camp finished

winniboy · 01-26-2012, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bear247

Poor Erne is never going to get his camp finished

oh itl get done, they were still on boats untill last week or so, making good progress on it.

rander7823 · 01-27-2012, 11:10 AM

Have there ever been two ice outs?

Lakegeezer · 01-27-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rander7823

Have there ever been two ice outs?

Great question! Yes, there were - but not officially. I forget the year, but ice-out was declared, the Mt. Washington routes were open - the winner of the contest was declared. Then, some wind blew an ice-flow back into the boat's route and unofficially it was not ice-out any more. True story, but the official statistics of ice-out over the years do not reflect it.

Island Girl · 01-27-2012, 12:37 PM

I remember that, Lakegeezer. I think it was mid-week and the ice floes were gone by the weekend when I opened my camp... So no danger of my boat being hit by a wandering berg!

IG

HomeWood · 01-27-2012, 07:14 PM

How's the ice doing lately with the milder temps and the rain?

Slickcraft · 01-28-2012, 05:14 PM

We took a look by the town docks today, there is water between the docks but iced over elsewhere. No indication that anyone has been out onto the ice to fish nor has anyone attempted to get a bob house onto the ice from there. The town has plowed what snow there was so as to partially block access to the area left of the docks where bob houses are normally towed onto the ice.

Merrymeeting · 01-28-2012, 08:21 PM

I was out on Merrymeeting today. A layer of water, covered by slushy ice.

A friend who was fishing said the holes he drilled were ~6". It appears that the rain yesterday is still sitting on top of the ice. The ice below must be fairly good or the water would have drained by now. Then the sleet/ice of late yesterday covered over the top.

At the same time, there are a few areas of the lake that were iced over before that are now open (areas where streams or springs enter the lake). I also saw parts of the Merrymeeting River that had opened up that were frozen last week.

Finally, I drove over the Merrimack River today. Two weeks ago saw large ice floes in the water. Today, nothing, just water.

Lucky1 · 01-29-2012, 10:32 AM

I was there Friday. Drove by Meredith and through Center Harbor and up to Moultonborough. Certainly was pleny of open water no matter where we looked.

Resident 2B · 01-29-2012, 12:31 PM

Well, I admit that my winter prediction made a month ago did not materialize. It got cold in the middle of the month as I expected, but the cold did not last long and from there it warmed up again, something I did not think would happen.

Looking forward, this coming week the temperatures will be above normal and the following week looks to be below normal. After that, it looks like the temperatures will moderate and be at or above normal into early March. This is not to say there will not be any cold days, but on average it does not look to be all that cold. This winter just does not seem to want to act like a New England winter.

As you all can see, the days are getting longer and the sun is getting stronger. In fact the historically coldest time of the year is Jan 22 to Jan 26 and that is now behind us. All of this will result in only a minor building of the ice, most likely between next weekend and the derby. After that the higher sun angle and the longer days will start to kick in.

Again, I could be wrong and I have been more wrong this year than I have been right with these long range forecasts. Sorry about that.

I also realize this is bad news to some and good news to others, but in the end it looks like this will go down as a very mild winter.

R2B

01-17-2012, 10:30 AM	#3
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,582 Thanks: 755 Thanked 355 Times in 267 Posts	today's time lapse on the Weirs cam, just the short light up time there has been today, shows the ice and snow receeding, man am I bummed __________________ Capt. of the "No Worries"

01-17-2012, 02:14 PM	#4
Bear Island South Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Southboro, MA Posts: 579 Thanks: 75 Thanked 384 Times in 170 Posts	This year is very similar to 2007. We were looking to buy a place on the lake and ended up taking a boat ride with our realtors on 1/18, by 2/14 we came over on snowmobiles to look again. I believe it will ice over but may be a short window of time. 2007 ice out was April 23rd. Attached Images

01-18-2012, 05:06 PM	#11
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01-20-2012, 08:15 AM	#17
Bear Island South Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Southboro, MA Posts: 579 Thanks: 75 Thanked 384 Times in 170 Posts	Ice-In Sunrises Ice showing on most of the webcams - can we declare ice-in Attached Images

01-20-2012, 10:52 AM	#18
JPerron2004 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dover, NH Posts: 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ice anyone know if it is frozen over near ellacoya, i know thats usually one of the last places to freeze?

01-17-2012, 08:29 AM	#2
Merrymeeting Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Merrymeeting Lake, New Durham Posts: 2,226 Thanks: 302 Thanked 800 Times in 368 Posts	Today's image will be different. Note that on the one posted yesterday, Merrymeeting Lake (dark spot to the right of Alton Bay finger) shows as open. Until yesterday, it was. But yesterday it skimmed over, with still clear, dark ice. I expect this would show as "open" in a satellite image. This morning the thin ice is covered with a light layer of snow so it's now white. However, there are already dark spots showing from water coming up along ice cracks. With above freezing temps in the next 24 hours, rain predicted, and then high winds, it will be interesting to see if it lasts. Next weeks predicted warm temps will also have an impact.

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01-17-2012, 04:48 PM	#5
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,511 Thanks: 221 Thanked 820 Times in 492 Posts	It is pouring here in Milton. The temps for the next week do not look overly favorable for rapid ice growth. Next week sounds even warmer. What do things look like from either Glendale to Mark or Meredith/Sheps to Mark? I need to get out if possible.

01-17-2012, 05:10 PM	#6
Slickcraft Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Welch Island and The Taylor Community Posts: 3,315 Thanks: 1,232 Thanked 2,103 Times in 960 Posts	We stopped by Glendale today. Thin ice from the docks part way to Pig then some open water. Some ice toward light 26 but mostly open water by light 26. Looking from Belknap Point mostly open water toward Welch, Round and Timber.

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01-18-2012, 10:43 AM	#8
Merrymeeting Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Merrymeeting Lake, New Durham Posts: 2,226 Thanks: 302 Thanked 800 Times in 368 Posts	I woke up about 5 AM this morning because the wind sounded like the house was going to blow down. With the almost 40 degree temps yesterday and all the rain, I expected to see the ice on Merrymeeting mostly gone once the sun was up. Much to my surprise, the lake is still mostly iced over. A few spots have opened up and all the snow cover is gone. But despite the wind, the open spots don't seem to be getting any larger. The cold temps of the next few days should lock it in.

01-18-2012, 12:40 PM	#10
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,511 Thanks: 221 Thanked 820 Times in 492 Posts	I just came back from a drive up to Gilford. Alton Bay is iced almost to the mouth, but it looks paper thin. The broads are completely open and the wind is howling. I followed the shore roads up to Gilford and saw nothing for real ice even along the edges. Nothing at Glendale looking out towards Mark, Round and Timber. Just a bit of ice between the dock fingers. I stopped at a property in behind Barn Door, there was ice piled up in that sheltered area behind but you could see whitecaps beyond. Stopped at Rum Point as well, wide open and windy.

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01-18-2012, 06:14 PM	#12
magicrobotmonkey Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 160 Thanks: 42 Thanked 44 Times in 31 Posts	Anyone have eyes on Meredith Bay? How's it holding up to all this wind?

01-19-2012, 11:04 AM	#15
Alton Bay Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 188 Thanks: 73 Thanked 24 Times in 21 Posts	Are there any companies like Emerson that fly over the lake to declare "Ice-In"? Wondering if the Broads were iced over today???

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01-20-2012, 01:16 PM	#19
FLAG! Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Upton, MA Posts: 112 Thanks: 44 Thanked 14 Times in 6 Posts	Broads Ice That skim of ice didn't hold up. Must have been windy yesterday. I hope the ice that's there now can hold up through next week's warm up and wind. Snow now would be bad.

01-20-2012, 01:35 PM	#20
Slickcraft Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Welch Island and The Taylor Community Posts: 3,315 Thanks: 1,232 Thanked 2,103 Times in 960 Posts	Photo taken today from Belknap Point Road looking out between Welch and Forty Islands. It looks about the same looking out from Ellacoya toward the Broads. A lot of blue water out there. The area looking out from Glendale is skimmed over out past light 26. Attached Images

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01-26-2012, 01:20 PM	#24
Island Girl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Central MA Posts: 2,352 Thanks: 18 Thanked 535 Times in 179 Posts	Still too thin For a lot of the lake, the ice is still too thin for even the air boats. They weigh a lot and will break through, creating rivers of water. The wind can use these rivers to break up what ice there is and the lake will never freeze. Given the forecast for the next week, growing much ice is iffy at best. In a couple of days we will start with our ice-out guesses. How about March 1st?? !!! IG __________________ Island Girl ....... Make Lemonade

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01-26-2012, 01:36 PM	#26
Island Girl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Central MA Posts: 2,352 Thanks: 18 Thanked 535 Times in 179 Posts	Understood Yup, drove one myself s few years back! As the ice gets thin, I love the undulating ice behind the air boat. It looks like waves of water but is really waves of thin punky ice. I think i have a movie of riding in the airboat somewhere on http://rattlesnakecam.com/pictures.htm. If not I will put one there in the next day or so. CA __________________ Island Girl ....... Make Lemonade

01-26-2012, 01:54 PM	#27
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,511 Thanks: 221 Thanked 820 Times in 492 Posts	Some airboats dont do as much damage to the ice. The yellow 1000 Islands that I had was great. I could easily traverse from water to ice without plowing through like the standard square hulls do. I rode in the ISS airboat last spring a week or so before ice-out, it is the traditional flat bottom square nose style. It had a tough time getting on top of the ice, granted there were 5 of us in the boat. March 1 sounds great to me!

01-26-2012, 04:03 PM	#28
TJNed Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 12 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Looking for Info I'm new here to the forum, but have been keeping a watchful eye trying to find out how the ice is developing on the lake. Me and my family come up each year (about 15 years now) for the derby and we would like to fish the channel by Governors Island. I know there is usually open water under the bridge but what does the rest of the nearby area look like? I'd like to get out to the point in between Governors Island and Weir's beach.

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01-27-2012, 11:10 AM	#33
rander7823 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 303 Thanks: 550 Thanked 40 Times in 24 Posts	Apologies for this question Have there ever been two ice outs?

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01-27-2012, 12:37 PM	#35
Island Girl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Central MA Posts: 2,352 Thanks: 18 Thanked 535 Times in 179 Posts	yup I remember that, Lakegeezer. I think it was mid-week and the ice floes were gone by the weekend when I opened my camp... So no danger of my boat being hit by a wandering berg! IG __________________ Island Girl ....... Make Lemonade

01-27-2012, 07:14 PM	#36
HomeWood Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Clayton,NC / Sanbornton,NH Posts: 611 Thanks: 126 Thanked 137 Times in 75 Posts	How's the ice doing lately with the milder temps and the rain?

01-28-2012, 05:14 PM	#37
Slickcraft Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Welch Island and The Taylor Community Posts: 3,315 Thanks: 1,232 Thanked 2,103 Times in 960 Posts	Glendale We took a look by the town docks today, there is water between the docks but iced over elsewhere. No indication that anyone has been out onto the ice to fish nor has anyone attempted to get a bob house onto the ice from there. The town has plowed what snow there was so as to partially block access to the area left of the docks where bob houses are normally towed onto the ice.

01-28-2012, 08:21 PM	#38
Merrymeeting Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Merrymeeting Lake, New Durham Posts: 2,226 Thanks: 302 Thanked 800 Times in 368 Posts	I was out on Merrymeeting today. A layer of water, covered by slushy ice. A friend who was fishing said the holes he drilled were ~6". It appears that the rain yesterday is still sitting on top of the ice. The ice below must be fairly good or the water would have drained by now. Then the sleet/ice of late yesterday covered over the top. At the same time, there are a few areas of the lake that were iced over before that are now open (areas where streams or springs enter the lake). I also saw parts of the Merrymeeting River that had opened up that were frozen last week. Finally, I drove over the Merrimack River today. Two weeks ago saw large ice floes in the water. Today, nothing, just water.

01-29-2012, 10:32 AM	#39
Lucky1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Moultonborough and FL Posts: 459 Thanks: 318 Thanked 123 Times in 53 Posts	Water, Water Everywhere I was there Friday. Drove by Meredith and through Center Harbor and up to Moultonborough. Certainly was pleny of open water no matter where we looked.