Wide Open saloon Weirs beach

LongBay · 02-01-2012, 10:48 PM

Maybe the next northeaster will knock it down once and for good. Then, no-one will have to open up their check book to tear it down.

For what the owner was paying in property tax's the last two years could have paid for the demolition. Maybe the NH should create the Ugly View Tax for bringing down the value of nearby property owners properties and thus causing a lost opportunity to tax those nearby property owners more.

LakeSnake · 02-02-2012, 08:20 AM

I though I saw an article in one of local papers (LDS?) aweek or two ago that a judge had ordered it be taken down by a specific date. The specifics did not stick in my memory.

fatlazyless · 02-02-2012, 08:41 AM

A judge did order it to be taken down, and the owner of the property has appealed that ruling in a higher court.

The appeal claims that the fire damaged property can be repaired and does not need to be torn down which is probably true if you take a good look at the building. The fire dept got there fast and put out the fire fast.

dragonfly03246 · 02-02-2012, 09:21 AM

She's going to the Supreme Court with her appeal. This should be the last time she's able to go to court on this. I guess we'll find out shortly after Feb 16th.

http://www.citizen.com/news/laconia_...a4bcf6878.html

LongBay · 02-03-2012, 12:28 AM

What people will do to draw out the inevitable and waste our taxpayer dollars in the meantime.

Maybe FlyGuy can give that owner a free tour of her property from above. No matter what angle you look at that property, the building is a loss.

PS Make sure someone reminds her to take off those rose colored glasses before she takes a look down at that big wide open hole in the roof.

Belmont Resident · 02-03-2012, 08:08 AM

Give it to the city, they can bulldoze it into a parking lot and recoup some of the money they loose every year by letting bike week drag on for so many days.

RailroadJoe · 03-13-2012, 02:18 PM

Does anyone know why this thing still stands? Didn't the courts order it down. No arsonist arrested yet.

Also is the roundabout at the Weirs junction Rt 3 and 11B going to be built this year?

nicole · 03-13-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RailroadJoe

Does anyone know why this thing still stands? Didn't the courts order it down. No arsonist arrested yet.

Also is the roundabout at the Weirs junction Rt 3 and 11B going to be built this year?

It still stands because the owner appealed that court ruling and no decision on the appeal has been made yet(that I know of anyway). Hopefully they are forced to knock the eyesore down soon.

Yes- they are starting the roundabout this year-unfortunately.

Heaven · 03-13-2012, 09:21 PM

The town ordered it taken down based on a zoning ordinance instead of relying on a report from an engineer. I expect the court to decide in favor of the property owner (to decide whether to demolish or repair based on engineering results). In the meantime we get to look at the charred remains.

RailroadJoe · 03-14-2012, 08:05 AM

All you have to do is look at it. No way would anyone want to try and repair that building. Must have something to do with insurance coverage.

no-engine · 03-17-2012, 02:29 PM

Building's condition appears worse in the last few days. I've seen now what appears to be a contractor's office trailer out back in the fenced in areas.

How can this family (Baldi) get away? News reports say that Lloyds insurance will not pay out while an investigation is on-going. I think it's unforgivable that Fire Marshals Office has not concluded. The weather has serious affects continually! I go by frequently. Guess what? There was no real conclusion made public to the fire that destroyed the former Lobster Pound Restaurant, maybe dozen years ago! Maybe this is similar??? Just total speculation. The same family owns drive in, and the colonial movie theatre in Laconia.

I have seen survey crews at the intersection just over the Weirs bridge. I speculate for the possible Roundabout. I have driven roundabouts in many places, smaller and larger than one in Meredith; I believe the State made a big mistake: the diameter should be a little larger! The waits get too long on the inbound roads.

pm203 · 03-18-2012, 07:19 PM

Roundabout or rotary?

upthesaukee · 03-18-2012, 07:34 PM

not enough room for a rotary.

fatlazyless · 03-18-2012, 09:52 PM

From memory, as best I recall, the roundabout in Meredith is 120' diameter, and the Weirs roundabout which is to be built this year will be 110' in diameter.......or something like that.

And, a small piece of the former Karl's Fine Food parking lot will be used for the roundabout.

That vacant lot has been for sale for maybe five years now.

"Drastically Reduced" is what the real estate sales sign says on a property for sale that is close to the Cumberland Farm store......everytime I see that sign......it makes me giggle....."Drastically Reduced"

Winnisquamguy · 03-19-2012, 08:44 AM

The Meredith roundabout about is 130' and the new one in the Weirs will be 120' you can find more information here.http://www.nh.gov/dot/projects/lacon...june310_cr.pdf

AC2717 · 03-19-2012, 09:11 AM

I know I am pushing this more off topic, and I am sorry, but I just hope they do not plan on doing this work this spring and summer

dragonfly03246 · 03-19-2012, 09:59 AM

The signs are up and the pavement's been marked. They plan on starting construction next month.

Sunset View · 03-19-2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LongBay

Maybe the next northeaster will knock it down once and for good. Then, no-one will have to open up their check book to tear it down.

For what the owner was paying in property tax's the last two years could have paid for the demolition. Maybe the NH should create the Ugly View Tax for bringing down the value of nearby property owners properties and thus causing a lost opportunity to tax those nearby property owners more.

Enough already! This has been going on for far too long........at what point do all the merchants in the area say our customer counts are going down, businesses are hurting, people are turned off by the poor image and families aren't going to want to frequent an area that looks so unkept! At this rate, the Weirs will become the next Revere Beach! I'm with you LongBay...now that the lake is almost ice free, perhaps a freak snow storm in April will solve everyone's problem....come on noreaster!!!

meredith weekender · 03-20-2012, 07:24 AM

what they really need to do is level the saloon and build a casino where the drive-in is. Just think of the possibilities... lol

fatlazyless · 03-20-2012, 08:02 AM

Most likely, the burnt out property is still required to pay a large property tax every six months based on what is probably an over-priced value of the land and possibly the burnt out structure.

That real estate sign just up the hill on Route 3, across from the now closed Cumberland gas station; "DRASTICALLY REDUCED PRICE" is a very unusual sign for selling a property. While it is not uncommon to see "Newly Priced" as opposed to "Price Reduced" .......seeing "Drastically Reduced Price" is an eye catcher.......however despite the drastically reduced price......the property has yet to get sold.

Is there any truth to the rumor that the six acre, recently clear-cut treeless dirt field, just south of the Cumberland gas station, is going to become a storage rental space business aka similar to "Storage Wars" on the Discovery TV.........that would be a very unusual land use for a location like that.....situated on a nice commercial location overlooking Lake Winnipesaukee. If that really happens......a storage business.....that does not say anything good about the concept of "Motorcycle Week" and what it has done to the Weirs on a long term basis.

A storage business.......... in that 6-acre field..........yikes?

Happy Gourmand · 03-20-2012, 08:06 AM

Cumby's is closed?

fatlazyless · 03-20-2012, 08:33 AM

The gas pumps are fenced out and closed and it looks like the gas pumps are getting a big repair done by a gasoline station service company named Gaftek ......maybe water got into the Cumby gas tanks underground....or something? Without the gas there's absolutely no reason for me to stop there. That gas station has a highly engineered gasoline leakage safety storage system....being located above Tower Street and Lake Winnipesaukee, the water resevoir for Laconia, and this years mud season has been incredibly wet and muddy.....so....I have no clue....but it seems pretty unusual that a newly constructed Cumby would need a gas storage repair at this time....however it indeed looks to be getting just that?

Back to the new to-be-built-this-year-2012 Weirs Roundabout. Neither the Plymouth or Mererdith roundabouts have any water irrigation and their dry perennial plantings all look like a field of dried out ugly weeds.

Maybe the new Weirs roundabout will include a lawn irrigation system, and become home to a decorative exotic showpiece roundabout garden that really really looks great ~ ~ ~ ~ !

nicole · 03-20-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Phantom Gourmand

Cumby's is closed?

Only temporary-should be about another week according to their employees. They are remodeling making it like some newer stores with pastries and some type of frosty machine according to a sign they had last weekend.

no-engine · 03-20-2012, 08:13 PM

Drive by this afternoon. New Cumberland's sign, not the blue/white plastic look. Looks like an attempt to look "green", as in conservation.

Saloon: definitely a trailer used for construction site office is placed in back. Large bulletin board device stands as if attached, and with lots papers.
Maybe demolition permit, building permits, etc. There was setting on edge of driveway to drive-in a series of concrete pipes. I did not get out of my vehicle, and was only briefly stopped in Lobster Pound parking lot.

Instead of speculating about the uses of other sites nearby, why not someone check it out at planning board office; minutes are public record!

no-engine · 03-23-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by no-engine

Drive by this afternoon. New Cumberland's sign, not the blue/white plastic look. Looks like an attempt to look "green", as in conservation.

Saloon: definitely a trailer used for construction site office is placed in back. Large bulletin board device stands as if attached, and with lots papers.
Maybe demolition permit, building permits, etc. There was setting on edge of driveway to drive-in a series of concrete pipes. I did not get out of my vehicle, and was only briefly stopped in Lobster Pound parking lot.

Instead of speculating about the uses of other sites nearby, why not someone check it out at planning board office; minutes are public record!

Behind the burned eye-soar, the trailer and gear and piping makes the site look more & more like the office/staging area for Busby Construction of the roundabout just over the Bridge! (a little site rental income for owner!) Large back hoe was working the banking towards the mini golf park, left side as heading over bridge towards Weirs Fire Station.

I need to drive by later today and will observe.

corollaman · 03-25-2012, 10:47 PM

I wish they would just knock it down and get it over with. It's been almost 2 years! How long is this whole thing gonna go on for??? Enough already! It's such an eyesore. I'm sure it has made property values in the area drop.

no-engine · 03-26-2012, 09:14 PM

Definitely the contractor for roundabout; newspaper stories confirm.
Also, observations from drive Laconia > Meredith, this morning.

Guess we must live with the eyesore and the firemarshall's continuing investigation. Arson or not?

Sunset View · 03-27-2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by corollaman

I wish they would just knock it down and get it over with. It's been almost 2 years! How long is this whole thing gonna go on for??? Enough already! It's such an eyesore. I'm sure it has made property values in the area drop.

It's an utter embarrassment to the community, to the potential tourists and to city government who have allowed this debacle to continue! Hard to imagine Don Thurston and his brothers along with the Lobster Pound owners living with this pile of garbage much longer. If this is the standard the city lives with, it's onlly a matter of time before the entire area lowers its standards for cleanliness, presentation and quality of image!
Tear It Down NOW!

crowsnest · 03-27-2012, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sunset View

It's an utter embarrassment to the community, to the potential tourists and to city government who have allowed this debacle to continue! Hard to imagine Don Thurston and his brothers along with the Lobster Pound owners living with this pile of garbage much longer. If this is the standard the city lives with, it's onlly a matter of time before the entire area lowers its standards for cleanliness, presentation and quality of image!
Tear It Down NOW!

well said - TAKE IT DOWN

LongBay · 03-27-2012, 11:42 PM

My next prediction on this debacle is The Wall at Fenway Park will come down before the Wide Open. So let's see what's still standing by end of day July 1st, 2012.

LongBay · 07-02-2012, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LongBay

My next prediction on this debacle is The Wall at Fenway Park will come down before the Wide Open. So let's see what's still standing by end of day July 1st, 2012.

Well here we are it's July 2nd. The Wall did came down at Fenway Park last night but not after a plane crashed into it first. It took the work of the stage crew who spent the day building it to knock it down in less than one minute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAHyJ...eature=related

With that said, it's time for my next prediction regarding the fate of the Wide Open. We are going to get above average snowfall this winter. All that snow will be appreciated by the skiers, snowmobilers and nearby property owners as they watch the snow pile up and finally see the Wide Open walls come tumbling down from all that snow piling up in the Saloon.

Belmont Resident · 07-03-2012, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by LongBay

Well here we are it's July 2nd. The Wall did came down at Fenway Park last night but not after a plane crashed into it first. It took the work of the stage crew who spent the day building it to knock it down in less than one minute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAHyJ...eature=related

With that said, it's time for my next prediction regarding the fate of the Wide Open. We are going to get above average snowfall this winter. All that snow will be appreciated by the skiers, snowmobilers and nearby property owners as they watch the snow pile up and finally see the Wide Open walls come tumbling down from all that snow piling up in the Saloon.

Like a bunch of old ladies constantly gossiping about the neighbor.

Yes it’s ugly but how dead can a dead horse get before you stop beating it to a pulp.

No amount of commenting on this forum is going to have an impact when those who own the property don’t care what others think about them or what they choose to do.

Sunset View · 07-03-2012, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongBay

Well here we are it's July 2nd. The Wall did came down at Fenway Park last night but not after a plane crashed into it first. It took the work of the stage crew who spent the day building it to knock it down in less than one minute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAHyJ...eature=related

With that said, it's time for my next prediction regarding the fate of the Wide Open. We are going to get above average snowfall this winter. All that snow will be appreciated by the skiers, snowmobilers and nearby property owners as they watch the snow pile up and finally see the Wide Open walls come tumbling down from all that snow piling up in the Saloon.

LB, One can only pray you're right.......amazing, it's July 3rd and we are hoping for snow to mask the dump that is the WOS! I'm with you LB....here's wishing for the mother of all blizzards in Novemebr and/or December...finally we'll be able to look forward to the sumer of 2013 without the WOS! Come on SNOW!!! Perhaps we should get in touch with Gunstock and borrow a snow gun for a few days............hmmmm.........it might just work.

Have a great, safe and enjoyable 4th everyone; and on this day, please remember our brave troops with enormous pride as they risk their lives everyday to provide you and me with freedom. Go USA!

AB_Monterey · 07-03-2012, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongBay

Well here we are it's July 2nd. The Wall did came down at Fenway Park last night but not after a plane crashed into it first. It took the work of the stage crew who spent the day building it to knock it down in less than one minute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAHyJ...eature=related

With that said, it's time for my next prediction regarding the fate of the Wide Open. We are going to get above average snowfall this winter. All that snow will be appreciated by the skiers, snowmobilers and nearby property owners as they watch the snow pile up and finally see the Wide Open walls come tumbling down from all that snow piling up in the Saloon.

LB, I'm guessing you were there too? Amazing show.

LongBay · 07-08-2012, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AB_Monterey

LB, I'm guessing you were there too? Amazing show.

Unfortunately I did not get to the show at Fenway but I did see it at Madison Square Garden.

nhyitbos · 08-09-2012, 10:17 AM

WOS was offered by a large contractor to tear it down sans the abatement. They turned it down. LB replied, "F the Weirs, F Laconia". Nice.

They will tear it down when THEY are ready. Its a reflection of them, hence the comments on this blog.

Lesson: When you are always trying to get even; you'll never get ahead!

Personally, I feel for their plight due to the Ponzi scheme...insurance fights, state not willing to release the report, slow court system. Then their personal home burns. Coach Holtz said that "Life is 10% what happens to you, 90% how you react." The whole situation is unfortunate.

Resident 2B · 08-09-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nhyitbos

WOS was offered by a large contractor to tear it down sans the abatement. They turned it down. LB replied, "F the Weirs, F Laconia". Nice.

They will tear it down when THEY are ready. Its a reflection of them, hence the comments on this blog.

Lesson: When you are always trying to get even; you'll never get ahead!

Personally, I feel for their plight due to the Ponzi scheme...insurance fights, state not willing to release the report, slow court system. Then their personal home burns. Coach Holtz said that "Life is 10% what happens to you, 90% how you react." The whole situation is unfortunate.

Just so everyone knows, the LB quoted here is not LongBay.

R2B

Mr. V · 08-09-2012, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nhyitbos

The whole situation is unfortunate.

Yeah, you reap what you sow.

no-engine · 03-28-2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sunset View

It's an utter embarrassment to the community, to the potential tourists and to city government who have allowed this debacle to continue! Hard to imagine Don Thurston and his brothers along with the Lobster Pound owners living with this pile of garbage much longer. If this is the standard the city lives with, it's onlly a matter of time before the entire area lowers its standards for cleanliness, presentation and quality of image!
Tear It Down NOW!

I would not want to be the local building code enforcement person! or city manager, or on city council, or any position within city. even police or fire departments or county sheriff. Total disgrace to drive by.

I wouldn't even desire to enter the drive-in movie regardless of the feature film. Can't imagine being on the receiving end of rental income for the area in back for contractor's staging, while at same time leaving the condition of the building! Such an embarrassment!

Happy Gourmand · 03-28-2012, 11:40 AM

There has to be a lot more to this story than what we think we know. I'm just guessing that the property owner is still paying a crazy amount of property tax for the building/location.
I would also think it reasonable to assume that he/she would love to resolve whatever the issue is with this so that it could again be turned into a revenue producing establishment of some sort.
This just makes me wonder what the real story is behind all the delays.

AC2717 · 03-28-2012, 11:53 AM

Can't we get a petition going to have the building removed or torn down, That just happened in the town where I live

Heaven · 03-28-2012, 05:08 PM

Nothing can be done until the issue has been decided in court.

RailroadJoe · 03-28-2012, 06:48 PM

Where next? US Supreme Court. Already run out of local ones.

Heaven · 03-28-2012, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RailroadJoe

Where next? US Supreme Court. Already run out of local ones.

Oh? What was the last decision?

RailroadJoe · 03-29-2012, 07:42 AM

Last I read it was supposed to be torn down in seven days.

corollaman · 03-29-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RailroadJoe

Where next? US Supreme Court. Already run out of local ones.

Last I knew it was already going to the supreme court, whether the case has been heard yet or not, I don't know.

patman · 03-20-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Is there any truth to the rumor that the six acre, recently clear-cut treeless dirt field, just south of the Cumberland gas station, is going to become a storage rental space business aka similar to "Storage Wars" on the Discovery TV.........that would be a very unusual land use for a location like that.....situated on a nice commercial location overlooking Lake Winnipesaukee.

...you mean like the storage place near the fire station in Moultonboro? Granted, it's not overlooking Lake Winnipesaukee, but...nice lake/mountain views, and I could never understand the logic of locating it there.

02-01-2012, 10:48 PM	#1
LongBay Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 151 Thanks: 48 Thanked 61 Times in 35 Posts	Still no news... Maybe the next northeaster will knock it down once and for good. Then, no-one will have to open up their check book to tear it down. For what the owner was paying in property tax's the last two years could have paid for the demolition. Maybe the NH should create the Ugly View Tax for bringing down the value of nearby property owners properties and thus causing a lost opportunity to tax those nearby property owners more.

02-02-2012, 08:20 AM	#2
LakeSnake Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pine (Alton) Mountain Posts: 138 Thanks: 39 Thanked 33 Times in 20 Posts	I though I saw an article in one of local papers (LDS?) aweek or two ago that a judge had ordered it be taken down by a specific date. The specifics did not stick in my memory. __________________ I'm in NH 24/7 now.

02-02-2012, 08:41 AM	#3
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,913 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 305 Thanked 1,052 Times in 766 Posts	A judge did order it to be taken down, and the owner of the property has appealed that ruling in a higher court. The appeal claims that the fire damaged property can be repaired and does not need to be torn down which is probably true if you take a good look at the building. The fire dept got there fast and put out the fire fast. __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!

02-02-2012, 09:21 AM	#4
dragonfly03246 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 83 Thanks: 7 Thanked 29 Times in 15 Posts	Citizen article She's going to the Supreme Court with her appeal. This should be the last time she's able to go to court on this. I guess we'll find out shortly after Feb 16th. http://www.citizen.com/news/laconia_...a4bcf6878.html

02-03-2012, 12:28 AM	#5
LongBay Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 151 Thanks: 48 Thanked 61 Times in 35 Posts	What people will do to draw out the inevitable What people will do to draw out the inevitable and waste our taxpayer dollars in the meantime. Maybe FlyGuy can give that owner a free tour of her property from above. No matter what angle you look at that property, the building is a loss. PS Make sure someone reminds her to take off those rose colored glasses before she takes a look down at that big wide open hole in the roof.

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02-03-2012, 08:08 AM	#6
Belmont Resident Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Belmont NH but prefer Jackman Maine Posts: 1,857 Thanks: 491 Thanked 410 Times in 251 Posts	State should take it over Give it to the city, they can bulldoze it into a parking lot and recoup some of the money they loose every year by letting bike week drag on for so many days. __________________ "better to have a short life that is full of what you like doing, then a long life spent in a miserable way.."

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RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	Does anyone know why this thing still stands? Didn't the courts order it down. No arsonist arrested yet. Also is the roundabout at the Weirs junction Rt 3 and 11B going to be built this year?

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03-13-2012, 09:21 PM	#9
Heaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 523 Thanks: 128 Thanked 95 Times in 67 Posts	The town ordered it taken down based on a zoning ordinance instead of relying on a report from an engineer. I expect the court to decide in favor of the property owner (to decide whether to demolish or repair based on engineering results). In the meantime we get to look at the charred remains.

03-14-2012, 08:05 AM	#10
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	Take it down All you have to do is look at it. No way would anyone want to try and repair that building. Must have something to do with insurance coverage.

03-17-2012, 02:29 PM	#11
no-engine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West side Winnipesaukee, Lakes Region Posts: 516 Thanks: 20 Thanked 52 Times in 40 Posts	Building's condition appears worse in the last few days. I've seen now what appears to be a contractor's office trailer out back in the fenced in areas. How can this family (Baldi) get away? News reports say that Lloyds insurance will not pay out while an investigation is on-going. I think it's unforgivable that Fire Marshals Office has not concluded. The weather has serious affects continually! I go by frequently. Guess what? There was no real conclusion made public to the fire that destroyed the former Lobster Pound Restaurant, maybe dozen years ago! Maybe this is similar??? Just total speculation. The same family owns drive in, and the colonial movie theatre in Laconia. I have seen survey crews at the intersection just over the Weirs bridge. I speculate for the possible Roundabout. I have driven roundabouts in many places, smaller and larger than one in Meredith; I believe the State made a big mistake: the diameter should be a little larger! The waits get too long on the inbound roads.

03-18-2012, 07:19 PM	#12
pm203 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 225 Thanks: 41 Thanked 86 Times in 46 Posts	Roundabout or rotary?

03-18-2012, 07:34 PM	#13
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,613 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,482 Thanked 1,985 Times in 1,085 Posts	roundabout not enough room for a rotary. __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

03-18-2012, 09:52 PM	#14
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,913 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 305 Thanked 1,052 Times in 766 Posts	From memory, as best I recall, the roundabout in Meredith is 120' diameter, and the Weirs roundabout which is to be built this year will be 110' in diameter.......or something like that. And, a small piece of the former Karl's Fine Food parking lot will be used for the roundabout. That vacant lot has been for sale for maybe five years now. "Drastically Reduced" is what the real estate sales sign says on a property for sale that is close to the Cumberland Farm store......everytime I see that sign......it makes me giggle....."Drastically Reduced" __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!

03-19-2012, 08:44 AM	#15
Winnisquamguy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Winnisquam, NH Posts: 613 Thanks: 419 Thanked 163 Times in 115 Posts	The Meredith roundabout about is 130' and the new one in the Weirs will be 120' you can find more information here.http://www.nh.gov/dot/projects/lacon...june310_cr.pdf __________________ "I'd rather be ridin than rolling"

03-19-2012, 09:11 AM	#16
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,587 Thanks: 756 Thanked 356 Times in 268 Posts	I know I am pushing this more off topic, and I am sorry, but I just hope they do not plan on doing this work this spring and summer __________________ Capt. of the "No Worries"

03-19-2012, 09:59 AM	#17
dragonfly03246 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 83 Thanks: 7 Thanked 29 Times in 15 Posts	Work starting soon The signs are up and the pavement's been marked. They plan on starting construction next month.

03-20-2012, 07:24 AM	#19
meredith weekender Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Meredith / Manchester Posts: 373 Thanks: 87 Thanked 84 Times in 57 Posts	what they really need to do is level the saloon and build a casino where the drive-in is. Just think of the possibilities... lol

03-20-2012, 08:02 AM	#20
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,913 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 305 Thanked 1,052 Times in 766 Posts	Most likely, the burnt out property is still required to pay a large property tax every six months based on what is probably an over-priced value of the land and possibly the burnt out structure. That real estate sign just up the hill on Route 3, across from the now closed Cumberland gas station; "DRASTICALLY REDUCED PRICE" is a very unusual sign for selling a property. While it is not uncommon to see "Newly Priced" as opposed to "Price Reduced" .......seeing "Drastically Reduced Price" is an eye catcher.......however despite the drastically reduced price......the property has yet to get sold. Is there any truth to the rumor that the six acre, recently clear-cut treeless dirt field, just south of the Cumberland gas station, is going to become a storage rental space business aka similar to "Storage Wars" on the Discovery TV.........that would be a very unusual land use for a location like that.....situated on a nice commercial location overlooking Lake Winnipesaukee. If that really happens......a storage business.....that does not say anything good about the concept of "Motorcycle Week" and what it has done to the Weirs on a long term basis. A storage business.......... in that 6-acre field..........yikes? __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!

03-20-2012, 08:06 AM	#21
Happy Gourmand Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ruskin FL Posts: 1,027 Thanks: 188 Thanked 322 Times in 179 Posts	Cumby's is closed?

03-20-2012, 08:33 AM	#22
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,913 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 305 Thanked 1,052 Times in 766 Posts	The gas pumps are fenced out and closed and it looks like the gas pumps are getting a big repair done by a gasoline station service company named Gaftek ......maybe water got into the Cumby gas tanks underground....or something? Without the gas there's absolutely no reason for me to stop there. That gas station has a highly engineered gasoline leakage safety storage system....being located above Tower Street and Lake Winnipesaukee, the water resevoir for Laconia, and this years mud season has been incredibly wet and muddy.....so....I have no clue....but it seems pretty unusual that a newly constructed Cumby would need a gas storage repair at this time....however it indeed looks to be getting just that? Back to the new to-be-built-this-year-2012 Weirs Roundabout. Neither the Plymouth or Mererdith roundabouts have any water irrigation and their dry perennial plantings all look like a field of dried out ugly weeds. Maybe the new Weirs roundabout will include a lawn irrigation system, and become home to a decorative exotic showpiece roundabout garden that really really looks great ~ ~ ~ ~ ! __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!

03-20-2012, 08:13 PM	#24
no-engine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West side Winnipesaukee, Lakes Region Posts: 516 Thanks: 20 Thanked 52 Times in 40 Posts	Drive by this afternoon. New Cumberland's sign, not the blue/white plastic look. Looks like an attempt to look "green", as in conservation. Saloon: definitely a trailer used for construction site office is placed in back. Large bulletin board device stands as if attached, and with lots papers. Maybe demolition permit, building permits, etc. There was setting on edge of driveway to drive-in a series of concrete pipes. I did not get out of my vehicle, and was only briefly stopped in Lobster Pound parking lot. Instead of speculating about the uses of other sites nearby, why not someone check it out at planning board office; minutes are public record!

03-25-2012, 10:47 PM	#26
corollaman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 181 Thanks: 8 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts	I wish they would just knock it down and get it over with. It's been almost 2 years! How long is this whole thing gonna go on for??? Enough already! It's such an eyesore. I'm sure it has made property values in the area drop.

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03-26-2012, 09:14 PM	#27
no-engine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West side Winnipesaukee, Lakes Region Posts: 516 Thanks: 20 Thanked 52 Times in 40 Posts	Definitely the contractor for roundabout; newspaper stories confirm. Also, observations from drive Laconia > Meredith, this morning. Guess we must live with the eyesore and the firemarshall's continuing investigation. Arson or not?

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03-27-2012, 11:42 PM	#30
LongBay Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 151 Thanks: 48 Thanked 61 Times in 35 Posts	Another Prediction.. My next prediction on this debacle is The Wall at Fenway Park will come down before the Wide Open. So let's see what's still standing by end of day July 1st, 2012.

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08-09-2012, 10:17 AM	#36
nhyitbos Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 18 Thanks: 9 Thanked 12 Times in 4 Posts	Offer made, offer rejected WOS was offered by a large contractor to tear it down sans the abatement. They turned it down. LB replied, "F the Weirs, F Laconia". Nice. They will tear it down when THEY are ready. Its a reflection of them, hence the comments on this blog. Lesson: When you are always trying to get even; you'll never get ahead! Personally, I feel for their plight due to the Ponzi scheme...insurance fights, state not willing to release the report, slow court system. Then their personal home burns. Coach Holtz said that "Life is 10% what happens to you, 90% how you react." The whole situation is unfortunate.

03-28-2012, 11:40 AM	#40
Happy Gourmand Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ruskin FL Posts: 1,027 Thanks: 188 Thanked 322 Times in 179 Posts	What is the rest of the story? There has to be a lot more to this story than what we think we know. I'm just guessing that the property owner is still paying a crazy amount of property tax for the building/location. I would also think it reasonable to assume that he/she would love to resolve whatever the issue is with this so that it could again be turned into a revenue producing establishment of some sort. This just makes me wonder what the real story is behind all the delays.

03-28-2012, 11:53 AM	#41
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,587 Thanks: 756 Thanked 356 Times in 268 Posts	Can't we get a petition going to have the building removed or torn down, That just happened in the town where I live __________________ Capt. of the "No Worries"

03-28-2012, 05:08 PM	#42
Heaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 523 Thanks: 128 Thanked 95 Times in 67 Posts	Nothing can be done until the issue has been decided in court.