Wide Open saloon Weirs beach

fatlazyless · 02-02-2012, 08:41 AM

A judge did order it to be taken down, and the owner of the property has appealed that ruling in a higher court.

The appeal claims that the fire damaged property can be repaired and does not need to be torn down which is probably true if you take a good look at the building. The fire dept got there fast and put out the fire fast.

dragonfly03246 · 02-02-2012, 09:21 AM

She's going to the Supreme Court with her appeal. This should be the last time she's able to go to court on this. I guess we'll find out shortly after Feb 16th.

http://www.citizen.com/news/laconia_...a4bcf6878.html

LongBay · 02-03-2012, 12:28 AM

What people will do to draw out the inevitable and waste our taxpayer dollars in the meantime.

Maybe FlyGuy can give that owner a free tour of her property from above. No matter what angle you look at that property, the building is a loss.

PS Make sure someone reminds her to take off those rose colored glasses before she takes a look down at that big wide open hole in the roof.

Belmont Resident · 02-03-2012, 08:08 AM

Give it to the city, they can bulldoze it into a parking lot and recoup some of the money they loose every year by letting bike week drag on for so many days.

RailroadJoe · 03-13-2012, 02:18 PM

Does anyone know why this thing still stands? Didn't the courts order it down. No arsonist arrested yet.

Also is the roundabout at the Weirs junction Rt 3 and 11B going to be built this year?

nicole · 03-13-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RailroadJoe

Does anyone know why this thing still stands? Didn't the courts order it down. No arsonist arrested yet.

Also is the roundabout at the Weirs junction Rt 3 and 11B going to be built this year?

It still stands because the owner appealed that court ruling and no decision on the appeal has been made yet(that I know of anyway). Hopefully they are forced to knock the eyesore down soon.

Yes- they are starting the roundabout this year-unfortunately.

Heaven · 03-13-2012, 09:21 PM

The town ordered it taken down based on a zoning ordinance instead of relying on a report from an engineer. I expect the court to decide in favor of the property owner (to decide whether to demolish or repair based on engineering results). In the meantime we get to look at the charred remains.

RailroadJoe · 03-14-2012, 08:05 AM

All you have to do is look at it. No way would anyone want to try and repair that building. Must have something to do with insurance coverage.

no-engine · 03-17-2012, 02:29 PM

Building's condition appears worse in the last few days. I've seen now what appears to be a contractor's office trailer out back in the fenced in areas.

How can this family (Baldi) get away? News reports say that Lloyds insurance will not pay out while an investigation is on-going. I think it's unforgivable that Fire Marshals Office has not concluded. The weather has serious affects continually! I go by frequently. Guess what? There was no real conclusion made public to the fire that destroyed the former Lobster Pound Restaurant, maybe dozen years ago! Maybe this is similar??? Just total speculation. The same family owns drive in, and the colonial movie theatre in Laconia.

I have seen survey crews at the intersection just over the Weirs bridge. I speculate for the possible Roundabout. I have driven roundabouts in many places, smaller and larger than one in Meredith; I believe the State made a big mistake: the diameter should be a little larger! The waits get too long on the inbound roads.

pm203 · 03-18-2012, 07:19 PM

Roundabout or rotary?

upthesaukee · 03-18-2012, 07:34 PM

not enough room for a rotary.

fatlazyless · 03-18-2012, 09:52 PM

From memory, as best I recall, the roundabout in Meredith is 120' diameter, and the Weirs roundabout which is to be built this year will be 110' in diameter.......or something like that.

And, a small piece of the former Karl's Fine Food parking lot will be used for the roundabout.

That vacant lot has been for sale for maybe five years now.

"Drastically Reduced" is what the real estate sales sign says on a property for sale that is close to the Cumberland Farm store......everytime I see that sign......it makes me giggle....."Drastically Reduced"

Winnisquamguy · 03-19-2012, 08:44 AM

The Meredith roundabout about is 130' and the new one in the Weirs will be 120' you can find more information here.http://www.nh.gov/dot/projects/lacon...june310_cr.pdf

AC2717 · 03-19-2012, 09:11 AM

I know I am pushing this more off topic, and I am sorry, but I just hope they do not plan on doing this work this spring and summer

dragonfly03246 · 03-19-2012, 09:59 AM

The signs are up and the pavement's been marked. They plan on starting construction next month.

Belmont Resident · 03-19-2012, 05:23 PM

I cannot see anything good coming from this project.
Except it should have traffic backed up all the way to Shaws during bike weekend.

02-02-2012, 08:41 AM	#1
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,916 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 305 Thanked 1,052 Times in 766 Posts	A judge did order it to be taken down, and the owner of the property has appealed that ruling in a higher court. The appeal claims that the fire damaged property can be repaired and does not need to be torn down which is probably true if you take a good look at the building. The fire dept got there fast and put out the fire fast. __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!

02-02-2012, 09:21 AM	#2
dragonfly03246 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 83 Thanks: 7 Thanked 29 Times in 15 Posts	Citizen article She's going to the Supreme Court with her appeal. This should be the last time she's able to go to court on this. I guess we'll find out shortly after Feb 16th. http://www.citizen.com/news/laconia_...a4bcf6878.html

02-03-2012, 12:28 AM	#3
LongBay Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 151 Thanks: 48 Thanked 61 Times in 35 Posts	What people will do to draw out the inevitable What people will do to draw out the inevitable and waste our taxpayer dollars in the meantime. Maybe FlyGuy can give that owner a free tour of her property from above. No matter what angle you look at that property, the building is a loss. PS Make sure someone reminds her to take off those rose colored glasses before she takes a look down at that big wide open hole in the roof.

02-03-2012, 08:08 AM	#4
Belmont Resident Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Belmont NH but prefer Jackman Maine Posts: 1,857 Thanks: 491 Thanked 410 Times in 251 Posts	State should take it over Give it to the city, they can bulldoze it into a parking lot and recoup some of the money they loose every year by letting bike week drag on for so many days. __________________ "better to have a short life that is full of what you like doing, then a long life spent in a miserable way.."

03-14-2012, 08:05 AM	#8
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	Take it down All you have to do is look at it. No way would anyone want to try and repair that building. Must have something to do with insurance coverage.

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RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	Does anyone know why this thing still stands? Didn't the courts order it down. No arsonist arrested yet. Also is the roundabout at the Weirs junction Rt 3 and 11B going to be built this year?

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03-13-2012, 09:21 PM	#7
Heaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 523 Thanks: 128 Thanked 95 Times in 67 Posts	The town ordered it taken down based on a zoning ordinance instead of relying on a report from an engineer. I expect the court to decide in favor of the property owner (to decide whether to demolish or repair based on engineering results). In the meantime we get to look at the charred remains.

03-17-2012, 02:29 PM	#9
no-engine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West side Winnipesaukee, Lakes Region Posts: 516 Thanks: 20 Thanked 52 Times in 40 Posts	Building's condition appears worse in the last few days. I've seen now what appears to be a contractor's office trailer out back in the fenced in areas. How can this family (Baldi) get away? News reports say that Lloyds insurance will not pay out while an investigation is on-going. I think it's unforgivable that Fire Marshals Office has not concluded. The weather has serious affects continually! I go by frequently. Guess what? There was no real conclusion made public to the fire that destroyed the former Lobster Pound Restaurant, maybe dozen years ago! Maybe this is similar??? Just total speculation. The same family owns drive in, and the colonial movie theatre in Laconia. I have seen survey crews at the intersection just over the Weirs bridge. I speculate for the possible Roundabout. I have driven roundabouts in many places, smaller and larger than one in Meredith; I believe the State made a big mistake: the diameter should be a little larger! The waits get too long on the inbound roads.

03-18-2012, 07:19 PM	#10
pm203 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 225 Thanks: 41 Thanked 86 Times in 46 Posts	Roundabout or rotary?

03-18-2012, 07:34 PM	#11
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,614 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,482 Thanked 1,986 Times in 1,086 Posts	roundabout not enough room for a rotary. __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

03-18-2012, 09:52 PM	#12
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,916 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 305 Thanked 1,052 Times in 766 Posts	From memory, as best I recall, the roundabout in Meredith is 120' diameter, and the Weirs roundabout which is to be built this year will be 110' in diameter.......or something like that. And, a small piece of the former Karl's Fine Food parking lot will be used for the roundabout. That vacant lot has been for sale for maybe five years now. "Drastically Reduced" is what the real estate sales sign says on a property for sale that is close to the Cumberland Farm store......everytime I see that sign......it makes me giggle....."Drastically Reduced" __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!

03-19-2012, 08:44 AM	#13
Winnisquamguy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Winnisquam, NH Posts: 613 Thanks: 419 Thanked 163 Times in 115 Posts	The Meredith roundabout about is 130' and the new one in the Weirs will be 120' you can find more information here.http://www.nh.gov/dot/projects/lacon...june310_cr.pdf __________________ "I'd rather be ridin than rolling"

03-19-2012, 09:11 AM	#14
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,587 Thanks: 756 Thanked 356 Times in 268 Posts	I know I am pushing this more off topic, and I am sorry, but I just hope they do not plan on doing this work this spring and summer __________________ Capt. of the "No Worries"

03-19-2012, 09:59 AM	#15
dragonfly03246 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 83 Thanks: 7 Thanked 29 Times in 15 Posts	Work starting soon The signs are up and the pavement's been marked. They plan on starting construction next month.

03-19-2012, 05:23 PM	#16
Belmont Resident Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Belmont NH but prefer Jackman Maine Posts: 1,857 Thanks: 491 Thanked 410 Times in 251 Posts	Sorry I cannot see anything good coming from this project. Except it should have traffic backed up all the way to Shaws during bike weekend. __________________ "better to have a short life that is full of what you like doing, then a long life spent in a miserable way.."