2012 Fuel Costs

[ITD]

Originally Posted by Belmont Resident

There was a short peice stating that before Obama was elected gas was $1.80 something a gallon. God help us if he gets re-elected.
Not that any of the alternatives look a whole lot better.

Come on BR, he's going to fix it with algae.

[Belmont Resident]

Originally Posted by ITD

Come on BR, he's going to fix it with algae.

What is wrong with this country? Politicians! ALL of them.

[Belmont Resident]

That was one of those times where you want to say more but you know you can't, but you wish you could.

[trfour]

Originally Posted by Belmont Resident

What is wrong with this country? Politicians! ALL of them.

Pockets fill pockets... A 'daffy-nition of Big O'l, and Government!
Nothing has changed, or will, as long as we are paying for it!!

Terry
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[Coastal Laker]

It's so easy for us to just say, "well it's only another this or that much more." So for example, at $3.69 a gallon, I did the math, my 110 mile daily commute costs me 16.91 a day. At $4, that grows to 18.33 only $1.42 more a day or $25.56 a month (18 days of commuting).

What's another $26 a month... I can handle it... and then next month it's another 20 something, and the next month it's another 20 something. then all of a sudden we wonder where all the money's going since things are starting to feel a bit tight.

What about the not wanting to give up riding around in the boat, or the snowmobile, or the ATV, or the motorcycle, or scooter, or whatever. But then there's the lawn mower, leaf blower, snowblower, weed whacker, etc.

How do you suppose it's so easy for a whole lot of nothing to happen to stop the gouging? We accept it. What else are we going to do?

[surfnsnow]

stay tuned for the pols to start talking about investigating price gouging.happens every time we get near $4.00/gal. never seem to find out the results of thier investigation however.

[NoRegrets]

So there are many pricing pressures and equations setting the price of gas. The closing of refineries by epa forced costly upgrades, commodities gaming, media hype, etc. The commodities modernization act of 2000 allowed speculation buying on energy by anyone for the first time since 1907 (my opinion the worst crime done to us by our elected officials in the past 40 years).

I wonder what the flooding of dollars (QE1 and QE2) has done to devalue our currency. Gold, Copper, and most commodities have gone to record levels so shouldn't oil have done the same? Since we printed hundreds of billions of dollars should anyone that owns commodities take less valuable dollars in trade?

I think the high gas price was a calculated trade off by our current elected administration. Print out dollars, spread the money to states, unions, bailouts, cash for clunkers, jobs and the stimulus plan and brace for the payback.

We will be on the boat as much as ever but not happy about the extra cost because I believe the current inflation (or devaluation of the dollar) was a very stupid move by Mr. Obama's cabinet leaders and czars (treasury and energy).

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by NoRegrets

So there are many pricing pressures and equations setting the price of gas. The closing of refineries by epa forced costly upgrades, commodities gaming, media hype, etc. The commodities modernization act of 2000 allowed speculation buying on energy by anyone for the first time since 1907 (my opinion the worst crime done to us by our elected officials in the past 40 years).

I wonder what the flooding of dollars (QE1 and QE2) has done to devalue our currency. Gold, Copper, and most commodities have gone to record levels so shouldn't oil have done the same? Since we printed hundreds of billions of dollars should anyone that owns commodities take less valuable dollars in trade?

I think the high gas price was a calculated trade off by our current elected administration. Print out dollars, spread the money to states, unions, bailouts, cash for clunkers, jobs and the stimulus plan and brace for the payback.

We will be on the boat as much as ever but not happy about the extra cost because I believe the current inflation (or devaluation of the dollar) was a very stupid move by Mr. Obama's cabinet leaders and czars (treasury and energy).

Very well said!! You hit the nail on the head!!... and hang on because QE3 is right around the corner!

[ITD]

Maybe I'm having an FLL moment here, but if algae is indeed the answer maybe we can scoop up CyanoBacteria blooms this summer and put them in our tanks to run our boats.

[AB_Monterey]

This is pretty good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2AvU2cfXRk

[John A. Birdsall]

I seem to think that those that are watersking might take a second thought on boating doing that, taking off from a dead stop witth a loaded skier really eats up the gas, so perhaps we will see less of that this year. I am preparing my gas slips rebate for last year and I am sure I will be cutting back on the operation of my boat. I hope I get my registration soon.

[dutchie4]

We are putting a bimini top on our boat and doing alot more anchoring and less cruising!

[AmericanBoatClub]

Fuel is a tough thing to avoid if you want to use your precious lake time for boating and enjoying our wonderful lake. As many have pointed out it makes you end up cutting back on other things, it would be nice to boat as much as you like and still save money.

If only there was a way to avoid having to buy the boat, store it, winterize it, rent a slip, fix it, clean it, and insure it.

[Dave R]

I guess I picked the right year to end my 104 mile round-trip daily commute to MA and start working from my NH home.

[trfour]

Sign Of The Times.

Terry
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[CGI3]

A year from now, when Obama is in his 2nd term, we will all be saying "remember when gas was only 4.00 per gallon" ..You heard it here 1st.

[Happy Gourmand]

Originally Posted by AmericanBoatClub

Fuel is a tough thing to avoid if you want to use your precious lake time for boating and enjoying our wonderful lake. As many have pointed out it makes you end up cutting back on other things, it would be nice to boat as much as you like and still save money.

If only there was a way to avoid having to buy the boat, store it, winterize it, rent a slip, fix it, clean it, and insure it.

Shameless...I love it!!

[sunsationdave]

Hello ABC
As soon as you get a bigger cruiser 30+ ft twin or single
I will sell my boat and become a life time member
when will you have a bigger cruiser any time soon
very intrested in your club just would like a 30+ ft boat
I would have allot more money for fuel

[AmericanBoatClub]

Originally Posted by sunsationdave

Hello ABC
As soon as you get a bigger cruiser 30+ ft twin or single
I will sell my boat and become a life time member
when will you have a bigger cruiser any time soon
very intrested in your club just would like a 30+ ft boat
I would have allot more money for fuel

You will be the first to know as soon as it happens!

[MAXUM]

When Bush was in office $4 gas was the result of in the words of Obama "the failed energy policy of those in Washington". He further said in August 2008 rising energy costs to be "one of the most dangerous and urgent threats this nation has ever faced" and that gas prices "are wiping out paychecks and straining businesses."

Now that it's happened on his watch he publicly runs around in blames everyone else. In reality if you look at what he has done in regards to monetary policy, failure to deal with the chaos in the middle east, and finally purposely putting road blocks up to produce and develop our own natural resources is it any wonder this is happening? Nope I dare say this is not only intentional but specifically part of his overall agenda. .

[AC2717]

Originally Posted by MAXUM

When Bush was in office $4 gas was the result of in the words of Obama "the failed energy policy of those in Washington". He further said in August 2008 rising energy costs to be "one of the most dangerous and urgent threats this nation has ever faced" and that gas prices "are wiping out paychecks and straining businesses."

Now that it's happened on his watch he publicly runs around in blames everyone else. In reality if you look at what he has done in regards to monetary policy, failure to deal with the chaos in the middle east, and finally purposely putting road blocks up to produce and develop our own natural resources is it any wonder this is happening? Nope I dare say this is not only intentional but specifically part of his overall agenda. .

Not that I want to start the political thing either nor run astray, the month Obama took office average gas prices in the country were $1.90 per gallon. Look it up.

[Boater]

Originally Posted by AC2717

Not that I want to start the political thing either nor run astray, the month Obama took office average gas prices in the country were $1.90 per gallon. Look it up.

Actually gas prices did spike up over $4 under Bush but he opened up some offshore oil leases and the prices came back down.

Domestic supply is high right now because of the leases that the Bush administration approved. Of course the current president takes credit for it at the same time he tries to crush all fossil fuel production in this country. Meanwhile China is currently building 27 nuclear plants (we're building 0) and buying every drop of oil in sight. They understand that energy is needed for economic expansion and the welfare of their people.

Remember that Obama has said that he wants gas prices over $5. Look it up. He thinks that if gas is prohibitively expensive we'll all switch to bicycles and high-speed rail. How will that work out in the Lakes Region?

[Belmont Resident]

Originally Posted by AC2717

Not that I want to start the political thing either nor run astray, the month Obama took office average gas prices in the country were $1.90 per gallon. Look it up.

I was told $1.80 so I posted that earlier, but states do differ.
The only people who are and will benefit from obama are those getting free handouts from him. He is great at giving especially when he’s never going to have to pay a dime for it. But our kids and their kids will.
He is once again in that say anything to get elected mode.

[Steveo]

Originally Posted by AC2717

Not that I want to start the political thing either nor run astray, the month Obama took office average gas prices in the country were $1.90 per gallon. Look it up.

Should Obama get credit for that or maybe God forbid you give it to his predecessor.

When Obama takes office for his second term the price of gas will be $4.90 per gallon. I won't blame that on Obama, just his predecessor....oh wait!

[Happy Gourmand]

No doubt politics and Wall Street are having some effect of the prices we see at the pump. But I also wonder if all the bull crap over in the Middle East is making the biggest difference?
At least one candidate (who is no longer a candidate) promised us $2 a gallon gas if he was to become our next President.
Would you agree that our current President would lower the price to $2 a gallon before the November election, if he could, to guarantee re-election?
IMO I think the President has less to do with gas prices than any on the other 3 reasons mentioned above.

[Sunset View]

Originally Posted by Steveo

Should Obama get credit for that or maybe God forbid you give it to his predecessor.

When Obama takes office for his second term the price of gas will be $4.90 per gallon. I won't blame that on Obama, just his predecessor....oh wait!

I think the vast majority of the country upon reflection would would George Bush back.........he had his faults like all of us, but he truly cared about the constitution, our country, our extraordinary brave troops and never backed down from those that threatened the USofA. Let's keep on living with apologies, needing permission to protect liberty and redistributing wealth back to those that don't want anything but entitlements......$5 a gallon.........Bring back GWB!

[SIKSUKR]

Originally Posted by MAXUM

Now that it's happened on his watch he publicly runs around in blames everyone else.

Not my President OBlame a.

[AC2717]

and with my 1,000th post:

Who knows what will a couple months bring, and it does sicken me, but if my family and I want to have fun I have to make sure I can pay the piper!!

We need to get speculators out of the oil business, that is one thing for certain.

and I CANNOT WAIT TO GET BACK TO THE LAKE TO SOME NICE LAKE ATMOSEPHERE, FIRE PIT, and DRINKS

[Bear247]

Originally Posted by AC2717

and with my 1,000th post:

Who knows what will a couple months bring, and it does sicken me, but if my family and I want to have fun I have to make sure I can pay the piper!!

We need to get speculators out of the oil business, that is one thing for certain.

and I CANNOT WAIT TO GET BACK TO THE LAKE TO SOME NICE LAKE ATMOSEPHERE, FIRE PIT, and DRINKS

I second the atmosephere, fire pit and drinks. Let's get it going ...

[Sunset View]

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Not my President OBlame a.

He has to go!

[John A. Birdsall]

Originally Posted by Coastal Laker

It's so easy for us to just say, "well it's only another this or that much more." So for example, at $3.69 a gallon, I did the math, my 110 mile daily commute costs me 16.91 a day. At $4, that grows to 18.33 only $1.42 more a day or $25.56 a month (18 days of commuting).

What's another $26 a month... I can handle it... and then next month it's another 20 something, and the next month it's another 20 something. then all of a sudden we wonder where all the money's going since things are starting to feel a bit tight.

What about the not wanting to give up riding around in the boat, or the snowmobile, or the ATV, or the motorcycle, or scooter, or whatever. But then there's the lawn mower, leaf blower, snowblower, weed whacker, etc.

How do you suppose it's so easy for a whole lot of nothing to happen to stop the gouging? We accept it. What else are we going to do?

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put all the gas toys away, replace the gas mower with the hand mower, the snow blower with the snow shovel, the ATV with a single speed fat tire bike, and the boat, put oars on it and row row row your boat. You will feel better in the morning. (especially if your rowing that cigerette boat and trying to keep it under 45 mph.

[Belmont Resident]

Originally Posted by John A. Birdsall

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put all the gas toys away, replace the gas mower with the hand mower, the snow blower with the snow shovel, the ATV with a single speed fat tire bike, and the boat, put oars on it and row row row your boat. You will feel better in the morning. (especially if your rowing that cigerette boat and trying to keep it under 45 mph.

Boats going away for me and that will leave enough for the other things (snowmobiles, ATV's and new vehicle) with money to spare.