Wide Open saloon Weirs beach

[Pineedles]

Originally Posted by ChocolateGypsy

Where I am in Laconia for the moment, there are now several abandoned/condemned buildings that are home to various local wildlife, roaming teens and their drug dealers. One has been there for "years," the others met the same fate more recently. The only thing the city has done is to post a "condemned" notice on them.

Count your blessings in that even the squatters don't want anything to do with the building at the Weirs.

Oh boy, sounds like a dangerous area. I bet your glad they didn't let that methadone clinic to be allowed there.

[laketrout]

Unforunately The city of Laconia has NO leadership when it comes to the Weirs. I love Weirs beach and the area but until the city has a master plan for the Weirs and the area it will languish and suffer. The Weirs needs a master plan sort of what happened with Meredith or Hampton beach, NH. Weirs needs to keep its honky Tonkin heritage!

[fatlazyless]

Anyone know what's happening to the six acre parcel that fronts Route 3 that is just downhill and south of the Cumberland gas station. All the trees have been cut, the lot has been graded somewhat......and there's numerous wood stakes with orange marks all set into the untreed lot all over, so something seems like it has been planned out..........rumor was a storage rental business where you rent out garage style space.......from some old thread ......but that may or may not be the case.......what-o-what might be planned in there?

Also.......how long before something happens with the vacant, empty lot that used to be home to the Karl's Fine Food restaurant?

Most all of the storefronts in the nearby commercial mini mall that is home to the Weirs Post Office are vacant and show "For Lease" signs as well.......even a Dunkin Donuts that was in there closed up. So......Weirs Beach.......and just maybe the new Weirs roundabout will get things rolling along to some better year round businesses at the Weirs ......hopefully .....the roundabout center will get a real decorative garden that get's some regular garden care as opposed to the nearby Meredith roundabout which has a circle of low water perennials that look like so many ugly, dry, weed style plants as opposed to what can be done in a garden that gets watered.......and maintained......

Say-hey......is there any local garden volunteers out there that has a green thumb or two and some water for the new Weirs roundabout center spot that will be replacing the historic "malfunction junction" of Route 3 and 11A?

[TiltonBB]

The Weirs area is difficult for property and business owners because you have to make a years income and expenses in 3 months.

I think a lot of people who vacation or spend summers in the area do not realize how deserted Weirs Beach becomes in the winter.

Did Dunkin Donuts close for good or just for the winter?

[Wreckn1]

let me rephrase this....once the city takes ownership of the building/property, which they will, that building will be demolished within 2 months (due to the bid process etc). Believe it or not the city REALLY wants that building gone, but right now their hands are tied

[no-engine]

Doesn't city, each year, need to issue permit to the Drive-in?
Or some sort of papers that say fine to open up. Place is hazardous to negotiate a car to view the screen, and/or use the facilities for movie goers!

Access right next to the burned structure, ready to collapse!

[nicole]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

The Weirs area is difficult for property and business owners because you have to make a years income and expenses in 3 months.

I think a lot of people who vacation or spend summers in the area do not realize how deserted Weirs Beach becomes in the winter.

Did Dunkin Donuts close for good or just for the winter?

It closed for good.

[Channel Pirate]

The fact that the "B" family will fight to the bloody end no matter what the impact is to the surrounding community speaks volumes about there charactor.

The area has been very good to them over the years.

[Channel Pirate]

I guess we will have to wait a few more years and see what the US Supreme Court has to say about the "literally" Wide Wide Open Saloon.

[Mr. V]

Get rid of Skee Ball and replace it with beer pong.

[Sunbeam lodge]

Originally Posted by Channel Pirate

The fact that the "B" family will fight to the bloody end no matter what the impact is to the surrounding community speaks volumes about there charactor.

The area has been very good to them over the years.

I took the time to read the bankruptcy petition.
If you want to get an idea of the character of the family it makes good reading.
How can they have unfiled or unpaid FED income taxes and then verify and certify that the information is accurate and then say it is not right or forgot or made a mistake.
Take the time to read about the process and bankruptcy proceedings and you will get an inside view of the family, lawyers and system.
Great system.

[Mr. V]

Originally Posted by Sunbeam lodge

I took the time to read the bankruptcy petition.

As did I.

Wow.

What a piece of ... work.

At one moment he tries to come off as a distracted, clueless, disinterested victim; the next he shows great understanding of his businesses and their complicated structure, together with an astounding display of selective memory.

An arrogant dissembler who seems to be playing 3 card monte with the bankruptcy trustee.

I thought that the examiner, Geraldine Karonis, representing the U.S. Trustee, performed an effective examination of Mr. Baldi.

I am still scratching my head over his comment that he decided to go to court and legally change his name to from "Steven" to "Lawrence" when he was in the fourth grade; I was reading comics and playing baseball in fourth grade, not having existential epiphanies and lawyering up.

The examination is supposed to be continued, to be resumed upon him providing info he "forgot" to provide; please provide a link to the upcoming examination on this thread when it becomes available: this is very interesting and informative and a great way to get a read on a person's true character.

[jtb9212]

Originally Posted by Sunbeam lodge

I took the time to read the bankruptcy petition.
If you want to get an idea of the character of the family it makes good reading.
How can they have unfiled or unpaid FED income taxes and then verify and certify that the information is accurate and then say it is not right or forgot or made a mistake.
Take the time to read about the process and bankruptcy proceedings and you will get an inside view of the family, lawyers and system.
Great system.

I worked for them during Bike Week a while back. What an eye opening experiance. The amount of cash that I saw change hands was incredible, stressing the word CASH.

Listening to some of the vendors who were renting asphalt from the Baldi's was pretty disturbing. One guy way paying $3000 per day for his spot. Look at the number of vendors they have around the Water Slide, Saloon, Drive In, and the alley way to the Drive In. Try to do a count of vendors and do the rough math on how much money gets pulled in by them, again, stressing the word cash.

Then read the bankruptcy document. These people are all about the cash, hiding around the rules, and working the system for all its worth. Again, what a crew of losers.

[Resident 2B]

I have also read the bankruptcy deposition, a public document.

UNBELIEVABLE!!

He was unsure what his legal name is or what his father's legal name is as they could be the same, no idea what he signed or when he signed it, falsified gross incomes, unfiled federal taxes, incomplete listing of trade names and he signed the document certifying that, under the pain of perjury, his statements were accurate and complete.

Holy cow! Still walking the streets???

R2B

[no-engine]

FYI: he has passed, about a year ago.
Wife takes over the "assets".

[jtb9212]

Originally Posted by no-engine

FYI: he has passed, about a year ago.
Wife takes over the "assets".

Baldi Sr. I beleive died, but Baldi Jr. still alive and screwing the system....

[no-engine]

As I recall, yes, in his early 70's, and father in law to Saloon's land owner, Brandi, according to media stories.
All in the family. I would assume the drive-in owner is the widow, mother in law to Brindi.
Maybe, I'll do a search for the obit.

I think I'll drive by Thurston's to go in and ask about the petition. I'll sign, if OK as a non-Laconia voter; I am taxpayer and registered in town abutting Laconia.

[AC2717]

No-Engine
Please let us know, I own property in Laconia but as a non resident/voter I would love to sign it
or what they should do is start a online petetion

[no-engine]

Originally Posted by AC2717

No-Engine
Please let us know, I own property in Laconia but as a non resident/voter I would love to sign it
or what they should do is start a online petetion

I had timing issues and never did find out if petition signors was required to be a Laconia voter. I reside/vote in neighboring town. I don't know where to find John Ganong.

I did call Thurston's Marina one day; lady said no Thurston was on the property, and she was not aware of details of the petition. Maybe I can stop today, Saturday 12th.

I hope making a comment, bumps this thread up.
If I were part of Busby Construction, I would never park equipment so near the building. Apparently the drive-in is open weekends, and certainly is not good public relations to movie attendees!

[Mr. V]

You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk?

A group of protesters picketing the property would be a unique, inexpensive and effective way of bringing this matter to a head.

[jtb9212]

Maybe the best way to petition to have the Wide Open torn down would be to boycott going to the Drive In, hurt them where thier heart is, the wallet. Hate to see a business go out of business, but wouldn't mind if its a Baldi owned business. The public has the voice and the power to make them wake up, although I doubt they would get it.

[no-engine]

Originally Posted by jtb9212

Maybe the best way to petition to have the Wide Open torn down would be to boycott going to the Drive In, hurt them where thier heart is, the wallet. Hate to see a business go out of business, but wouldn't mind if its a Baldi owned business. The public has the voice and the power to make them wake up, although I doubt they would get it.

Agreed! Personally, I have not gone to drive-in or theater downtown Laconia for many years. Also, I have not gone to the water slide, or recommended any.

I remember reading an inn/motel owner (not identified) on this thread posting that they plan to NOT recommend any of those businesses to their clients.

[Belmont Resident]

Originally Posted by no-engine

Agreed! Personally, I have not gone to drive-in or theater downtown Laconia for many years. Also, I have not gone to the water slide, or recommended any.

I remember reading an inn/motel owner (not identified) on this thread posting that they plan to NOT recommend any of those businesses to their clients.

Although the drive in theater has become a run down neglected place that one would cringe to use the bathrooms at the options could be worse.
Imagine it as the sight of just another mega hotel, resort or even worse condo’s that instead of tying up traffic at night on the weekends creates more traffic and adds another eye sore to the lake.

[jtb9212]

Click on the link and see what the Wide Open looked like when it was a hotel in its early days. What a beautiful majestic building. What a total shame to see it now and what is has become.

http://www.weirsbeach.com/Largejpgs/...ctanhotel.html

The Weirs was such a beautiful destination and has so much history. It is such a shame to see it where it is today. Enjoy the link to the photos. It really makes me sad to see that area in the state it is in today.

[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by Belmont Resident

Although the drive in theater has become a run down neglected place that one would cringe to use the bathrooms at the options could be worse.
Imagine it as the sight of just another mega hotel, resort or even worse condo’s that instead of tying up traffic at night on the weekends creates more traffic and adds another eye sore to the lake.

I can envision when state legislature OK casinos and Bruton Smith go ahead with his plan on a maga casino complex across from the speedway.

I'm willing to bet Canterbury will fight tooth and nail against the proposal. I would suggest Bruton buy out the Weirs and turn it into a mega casino complex. It is the only way we can really change the eye sore.

[ChocolateGypsy]

Originally Posted by Pineedles

Oh boy, sounds like a dangerous area. I bet your glad they didn't let that methadone clinic to be allowed there.

Are you being sarcastic? The clinic's at the hospital.