Missing marks

W Clarke · 05-02-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom

Just as an FYI

when I come across a missing or misplaced marker I have called it in over VHF #16 ...

To be Courteous , I do run through in my head how to best describe the exact marker before hailing them -- .

If I remember correctly the green lake map by Duncan has all the markers numbered, not just the flashing light markers. You don't need to describe where the marker should be, just let the MP know what the marker number is. They brag that the numbering system is one of their Duncan map selling points.

NoBozo · 05-02-2012, 03:25 PM

My Duncan chart from 1997-1998 does Not have all the marks numbered. I'm guessing there are Hundreds of un-numbered marks. Only the lighted marks are numbered..up to 83 in all. The Bizer chart (5th Ed) has 84. NB

Phantom · 05-02-2012, 03:47 PM

Can't speak to the Duncan Charts

Last version I have is a early 90's version which I let guests in the boat use to "follow along" as it is less cluttered and is more visually pleasant for non boaters.

I'm hooked on the Bizer Charts for navigation purposes.

NoBozo · 05-02-2012, 04:07 PM

I just googled Duncan Press.. http://www.duncanpressinc.com/

Apparently they NOW Have ALL the marks numbered...over 700. That should make for......interesting navigation.

"HONEY: Could you get out the binoculars and see if that buoy over there is #873...?" Which buoy Snookie...there's 12 buoys over there.

NB

ishoot308 · 05-02-2012, 06:51 PM

The buoy numbers on the Duncan Press chart, are the same as they are in the Marine Patrol Dispatch office Duncan Press charts. If you see a missing buoy simply call the buoy number into the Marine Patrol, no need to tell them where it is at.

Dan

NoBozo · 05-02-2012, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ishoot308

The buoy numbers on the Duncan Press chart, are the same as they are in the Marine Patrol Dispatch office Duncan Press charts. If you see a missing buoy simply call the buoy number into the Marine Patrol, no need to tell them where it is at.

Dan

Are the actual old UN-numbered buoys now actually NUMBERED....with PAINTED numbers...so I can see them.. Just wonderin..

BTW: If a Buoy is MISSING....HOW do you SEE IT....?
NB

ishoot308 · 05-02-2012, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoBozo

Are the actual old UN-numbered buoys now actually NUMBERED....with PAINTED numbers...so I can see them.. Just wonderin..

BTW: If a Buoy is MISSING....HOW do you SEE IT....?
NB

N.B.

You look at your chart and reference the number then simply call it in to Marine Patrol. The actual buoys themselves are not all independently numbered.

Hope that helps explain.

Dan

Bear Island South · 05-03-2012, 06:14 AM

What about bouys that have been broken off?
How many years are they left in before they are replaced? I know of one near Meredith Neck, Dolly Island (opposite FL #3) that has been broken for three years.
Is it worth a call to Marine patrol or do they wait until it is missing, it is now at at point that you can not identify the color.

Phantom · 05-03-2012, 07:25 AM

Bear Island South --

Call it in ! and I know the EXACT marker you are referring to

My experiance in the past is that if the Marker is unidentifiable (no color) Marine Patrol is usually pretty darn good at a quick fix.

Numerous times I have called in the Red top just off Pitchwood, which seems to be a consistant marker hit as traffic curls in towards FL#44

05-03-2012, 07:25 AM	#9
Phantom Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin, Ma / Gilford Posts: 1,934 Thanks: 450 Thanked 605 Times in 341 Posts	Bear Island South -- Call it in ! and I know the EXACT marker you are referring to My experiance in the past is that if the Marker is unidentifiable (no color) Marine Patrol is usually pretty darn good at a quick fix. Numerous times I have called in the Red top just off Pitchwood, which seems to be a consistant marker hit as traffic curls in towards FL#44 __________________ *A bad day on the Big Lake (although I've never had one) - Still beats a day at the office!!*

05-02-2012, 03:25 PM	#2
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	My Duncan chart from 1997-1998 does Not have all the marks numbered. I'm guessing there are Hundreds of un-numbered marks. Only the lighted marks are numbered..up to 83 in all. The Bizer chart (5th Ed) has 84. NB

05-02-2012, 03:47 PM	#3
Phantom Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin, Ma / Gilford Posts: 1,934 Thanks: 450 Thanked 605 Times in 341 Posts	Can't speak to the Duncan Charts Last version I have is a early 90's version which I let guests in the boat use to "follow along" as it is less cluttered and is more visually pleasant for non boaters. I'm hooked on the Bizer Charts for navigation purposes. __________________ *A bad day on the Big Lake (although I've never had one) - Still beats a day at the office!!*

05-02-2012, 04:07 PM	#4
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Low and Behold... I just googled Duncan Press.. http://www.duncanpressinc.com/ Apparently they NOW Have ALL the marks numbered...over 700. That should make for......interesting navigation. "HONEY: Could you get out the binoculars and see if that buoy over there is #873...?" Which buoy Snookie...there's 12 buoys over there. NB

05-02-2012, 06:51 PM	#5
ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,368 Thanks: 2,422 Thanked 5,349 Times in 2,093 Posts	The buoy numbers on the Duncan Press chart, are the same as they are in the Marine Patrol Dispatch office Duncan Press charts. If you see a missing buoy simply call the buoy number into the Marine Patrol, no need to tell them where it is at. Dan

05-03-2012, 06:14 AM	#8
Bear Island South Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Southboro, MA Posts: 579 Thanks: 75 Thanked 384 Times in 170 Posts	What about bouys that have been broken off? How many years are they left in before they are replaced? I know of one near Meredith Neck, Dolly Island (opposite FL #3) that has been broken for three years. Is it worth a call to Marine patrol or do they wait until it is missing, it is now at at point that you can not identify the color.