Geese Everywhere!!!!!

NHKathy · 07-09-2012, 06:34 PM

No no no... I was NOT in the water - I was on the beach in my chair.
They didn't stay long though, after they were scared off....

tis · 07-09-2012, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NHKathy

No no no... I was NOT in the water - I was on the beach in my chair.
They didn't stay long though, after they were scared off....

Smart you! I wouldn't have been in that water either like those people were! The amount they generate is unbelievable. Don't worry, I am sure they will be back.

Sunset View · 07-10-2012, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tis

Smart you! I wouldn't have been in that water either like those people were! The amount they generate is unbelievable. Don't worry, I am sure they will be back.

Time to start taking matters into our own hands............this is out of control, we're going to lose our lake!!!!!

AC2717 · 07-10-2012, 08:55 AM

we used ballons on string attached to sticks (no hellium just my own hot air) and it worked, got sick of blowing them up everynight, so went to the string and streamer idea, worked and they are gone!
put it right where the water meets the land about a foot off the ground then hung multiple pieces of streamer off the string the whole length of the beach.
We had them all the way up on our deck! Lost count after 40 geese.
It is getting out of hand and the gov agencies need to step up or we need to take it into our own hands

the goose population, and turkey populations have exploded in the past 3 years and nothing has been done about it

Jonas Pilot · 07-10-2012, 09:15 AM

You're contributing to the problem.

From National Geographic;

Canada geese are adaptable to many habitats and may thrive wherever grasses, grains, or berries are available. Because of changing weather, settlement, and farming patterns, many Canada (not "Canadian") geese have begun to alter their migrations. Typically, the birds summered in northern North America and flew south when cold weather arrived. This cycle endures, but some northern populations have shortened their flight to traditional wintering grounds in the southern U.S. and Mexico. Other Canada geese have become permanent residents of parks, golf courses, suburban subdevelopments, and other human habitats across much of North America. In some areas, such as airports, they are so numerous that they are considered a nuisance. Just 50 geese can produce two and a half tons of excrement in a year.

http://animals.nationalgeographic.co.../canada-goose/

Canada Geese live in a great many habitats near water, grassy fields, and grain fields. Canada Geese are particularly drawn to lawns for two reasons: they can digest grass, and when they are feeding with their young, manicured lawns give them a wide, unobstructed view of any approaching predators. So they are especially abundant in parks, airports, golf courses, and other areas with expansive lawns.

http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/c...se/lifehistory

Woodsy · 07-10-2012, 09:31 AM

I am all for the preservation of nature... but!!

Nothing a paintball gun wont fix!

Woodsy

Grant · 07-10-2012, 10:18 AM

I've harped on this issue many times, and at the risk of repeating myself, I will reiterate...from experience.

Kill them now. If we don't, they will destroy the lake. Quickly.

I've spent every one of my 51 summers, plus a lot of spring, fall and winter time, on the Lake, and the sudden explosion of the Canada Goose population is the most worrisome development I've seen in those years.

The rest of my time is spent in Southeastern Pennsylvania, where it's already too late. The geese are everywhere, and many of our formerly drinkable/swimmable waters are now forever lost. These geese reproduce unchecked -- with ~6-10 offspring each spring. No predators to speak of (and the eggs are well protected), so the population just grows and grows each year. All they do is eat and poop, and the "green tootsie rolls" they leave behind are a major health hazard. Today, HUGE populations of geese reside in office campuses, golf courses, parks, school grounds -- anywhere there is grass and water.

The burgeoning goose population doesn't seem to be a problem in NH right now, but it will be. Trust me on this. I've seen the future of the Lakes Region, and if you want to see it, just come down here and check out Lake Nockamixon, Peace Valley Reservoir, Springfield Lake, Green Lane Reservoir, and other formerly usable bodies of water. Now disgusting and green-tinged.

I saw a family of four adults and about 20+ juveniles float by our place this spring, and threw handfuls of pebbles at them. No one was hurt...it just kept them moving...to somewhere else on the Lake. Sadly, it seems the only real solution is more drastic. Unfortunately, unless the State takes real action, I'm afraid it's too late, and we're just seeing the beginning.

Merrymeeting · 07-10-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonas Pilot

Canada Geese live in a great many habitats near water, grassy fields, and grain fields. Canada Geese are particularly drawn to lawns for two reasons: they can digest grass, and when they are feeding with their young, manicured lawns give them a wide, unobstructed view of any approaching predators.

Yet another good reason not to have lawns lakeside!

barefootbay · 07-10-2012, 08:40 PM

I would think that the state would become involved quickly as the lakes region represents so much of what NH is, not to mention the huge amount of revenue it represents.
Perhaps words to your state reps. would help bring the importance of this into offical recognition.

Jonas Pilot · 07-10-2012, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by barefootbay

I would think that the state would become involved quickly as the lakes region represents so much of what NH is, not to mention the huge amount of revenue it represents.
Perhaps words to your state reps. would help bring the importance of this into offical recognition.

If you have concerns about wildlife in New Hampshire your questions should be addressed to the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department. They are the ones that know best about our habitats and the animals we share them with.

Jonas Pilot · 07-10-2012, 09:15 PM

Here's how to contact your local Conservation Officer (C.O.): call Fish and Game's Dispatch Office at 603-271-3361. The line is open weekdays from 8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.; from Sept. 1 to Dec. 5, it's open 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. The Dispatcher will radio your local C.O.

If you have a question about wildlife, fishing, hunting, OHRVs, etc., please try the search box (top right) or Frequently Asked Questions section first.

DISTRICT 2
Region 2
Box 417
New Hampton, NH 03256
(603) 744-5470
Lt. James Goss; Sgt. B. Abrams; R. Arsenault; M. Eastman; M. Hensel; B. Morse; A. Lopashanski

secondcurve · 07-10-2012, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonas Pilot

Here's how to contact your local Conservation Officer (C.O.): call Fish and Game's Dispatch Office at 603-271-3361. The line is open weekdays from 8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.; from Sept. 1 to Dec. 5, it's open 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. The Dispatcher will radio your local C.O.

If you have a question about wildlife, fishing, hunting, OHRVs, etc., please try the search box (top right) or Frequently Asked Questions section first.

DISTRICT 2
Region 2
Box 417
New Hampton, NH 03256
(603) 744-5470
Lt. James Goss; Sgt. B. Abrams; R. Arsenault; M. Eastman; M. Hensel; B. Morse; A. Lopashanski

JP:

I don't need to contact my local conservation officer to know that Canadian Geese in the lakes region are a problem and hopefully, my local conservation officer doesn't need me to contact him to be told that Canadian Geese are a problem. Let's increase the bag limit on these flying rats! If everyone killed a couple we could solve the problem quickly.

Jonas Pilot · 07-11-2012, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by secondcurve

JP:

I don't need to contact my local conservation officer to know that Canadian Geese in the lakes region are a problem and hopefully, my local conservation officer doesn't need me to contact him to be told that Canadian Geese are a problem. Let's increase the bag limit on these flying rats! If everyone killed a couple we could solve the problem quickly.

Do you not think the "squeaky wheel gets the oil"? The more people that contact the right authorities the better chance of getting something done.

secondcurve · 07-11-2012, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonas Pilot

Do you not think the "squeaky wheel gets the oil"? The more people that contact the right authorities the better chance of getting something done.

That is a good point. Thanks

barefootbay · 07-11-2012, 07:58 PM

Thats exactly the point that I was trying to get across!

SAB1 · 07-12-2012, 09:55 AM

Likely it may help to make calls and file complaints with NH F&G. It could be wrong but I am thinking it would take time to implement changes to a goose hunting season. I believe all migratory waterfowl are actually under juristriction of the Federal Government and The State would have to work with the Fed's for changes.

tis · 07-10-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AC2717

we used ballons on string attached to sticks (no hellium just my own hot air) and it worked, got sick of blowing them up everynight, so went to the string and streamer idea, worked and they are gone!
put it right where the water meets the land about a foot off the ground then hung multiple pieces of streamer off the string the whole length of the beach.
We had them all the way up on our deck! Lost count after 40 geese.
It is getting out of hand and the gov agencies need to step up or we need to take it into our own hands

the goose population, and turkey populations have exploded in the past 3 years and nothing has been done about it

I had been using streamers like car dealers used but they figured out after 2 years that they can squeeze over them or under them. My latest is swans floating in the lake and they haven't been back for 4 days. Keeping my fingers crossed.

AC2717 · 07-10-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tis

I had been using streamers like car dealers used but they figured out after 2 years that they can squeeze over them or under them. My latest is swans floating in the lake and they haven't been back for 4 days. Keeping my fingers crossed.

at about a foot in height?? just curious to see if I have to adjust them, I might be going way of the swans as well

tis · 07-10-2012, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AC2717

at about a foot in height?? just curious to see if I have to adjust them, I might be going way of the swans as well

You can try that. It might be a little high. Mine didn't stay put so I was always adjusting them someplace. Believe me, you will know when they figure out where the low or high point is. I just took them down and put up two rows of pink twine but they go through that too. I did get sick of the flags and since they weren't working anymore I decided to try the twine. Samiam gave me the idea of the streamers. If I didn't have so much frontage it would be a lot easier. That is the problem, they get used to things.

07-10-2012, 08:55 AM	#4
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,587 Thanks: 756 Thanked 356 Times in 268 Posts	we used ballons on string attached to sticks (no hellium just my own hot air) and it worked, got sick of blowing them up everynight, so went to the string and streamer idea, worked and they are gone! put it right where the water meets the land about a foot off the ground then hung multiple pieces of streamer off the string the whole length of the beach. We had them all the way up on our deck! Lost count after 40 geese. It is getting out of hand and the gov agencies need to step up or we need to take it into our own hands the goose population, and turkey populations have exploded in the past 3 years and nothing has been done about it __________________ Capt. of the "No Worries"

07-10-2012, 09:15 AM	#5
Jonas Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wolfeboro, New Hampshire is my home, 24-7-365 Posts: 1,686 Thanks: 1,047 Thanked 336 Times in 189 Posts	Large lawn? You're contributing to the problem. From National Geographic; Canada geese are adaptable to many habitats and may thrive wherever grasses, grains, or berries are available. Because of changing weather, settlement, and farming patterns, many Canada (not "Canadian") geese have begun to alter their migrations. Typically, the birds summered in northern North America and flew south when cold weather arrived. This cycle endures, but some northern populations have shortened their flight to traditional wintering grounds in the southern U.S. and Mexico. Other Canada geese have become permanent residents of parks, golf courses, suburban subdevelopments, and other human habitats across much of North America. In some areas, such as airports, they are so numerous that they are considered a nuisance. Just 50 geese can produce two and a half tons of excrement in a year. http://animals.nationalgeographic.co.../canada-goose/ Canada Geese live in a great many habitats near water, grassy fields, and grain fields. Canada Geese are particularly drawn to lawns for two reasons: they can digest grass, and when they are feeding with their young, manicured lawns give them a wide, unobstructed view of any approaching predators. So they are especially abundant in parks, airports, golf courses, and other areas with expansive lawns. http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/c...se/lifehistory

07-10-2012, 09:31 AM	#6
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,968 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	I am all for the preservation of nature... but!! Nothing a paintball gun wont fix! Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

07-10-2012, 10:18 AM	#7
Grant Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pennsyltuckey, Tuftonboro, Moultonborough Posts: 1,505 Thanks: 385 Thanked 232 Times in 126 Posts	I've harped on this issue many times, and at the risk of repeating myself, I will reiterate...from experience. Kill them now. If we don't, they *will* destroy the lake. Quickly. I've spent every one of my 51 summers, plus a lot of spring, fall and winter time, on the Lake, and the sudden explosion of the Canada Goose population is the most worrisome development I've seen in those years. The rest of my time is spent in Southeastern Pennsylvania, where it's already too late. The geese are everywhere, and many of our formerly drinkable/swimmable waters are now forever lost. These geese reproduce unchecked -- with ~6-10 offspring each spring. No predators to speak of (and the eggs are well protected), so the population just grows and grows each year. All they do is eat and poop, and the "green tootsie rolls" they leave behind are a major health hazard. Today, HUGE populations of geese reside in office campuses, golf courses, parks, school grounds -- anywhere there is grass and water. The burgeoning goose population doesn't seem to be a problem in NH right now, but it will be. Trust me on this. I've seen the future of the Lakes Region, and if you want to see it, just come down here and check out Lake Nockamixon, Peace Valley Reservoir, Springfield Lake, Green Lane Reservoir, and other formerly usable bodies of water. Now disgusting and green-tinged. I saw a family of four adults and about 20+ juveniles float by our place this spring, and threw handfuls of pebbles at them. No one was hurt...it just kept them moving...to somewhere else on the Lake. Sadly, it seems the only real solution is more drastic. Unfortunately, unless the State takes real action, I'm afraid it's too late, and we're just seeing the beginning. __________________ "When I die, please don't let my wife sell my dive gear for what I told her I paid for it."

07-10-2012, 09:15 PM	#11
Jonas Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wolfeboro, New Hampshire is my home, 24-7-365 Posts: 1,686 Thanks: 1,047 Thanked 336 Times in 189 Posts	Contact a Conservation Officer Here's how to contact your local Conservation Officer (C.O.): call Fish and Game's Dispatch Office at 603-271-3361. The line is open weekdays from 8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.; from Sept. 1 to Dec. 5, it's open 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. The Dispatcher will radio your local C.O. If you have a question about wildlife, fishing, hunting, OHRVs, etc., please try the search box (top right) or Frequently Asked Questions section first. DISTRICT 2 Region 2 Box 417 New Hampton, NH 03256 (603) 744-5470 Lt. James Goss; Sgt. B. Abrams; R. Arsenault; M. Eastman; M. Hensel; B. Morse; A. Lopashanski

07-09-2012, 06:34 PM	#1
NHKathy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moultonborough when I can / RI Posts: 699 Thanks: 180 Thanked 38 Times in 22 Posts	No no no... I was NOT in the water - I was on the beach in my chair. They didn't stay long though, after they were scared off....

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07-10-2012, 08:40 PM	#9
barefootbay Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 396 Thanks: 78 Thanked 107 Times in 75 Posts	I would think that the state would become involved quickly as the lakes region represents so much of what NH is, not to mention the huge amount of revenue it represents. Perhaps words to your state reps. would help bring the importance of this into offical recognition.

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07-11-2012, 07:58 PM	#15
barefootbay Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 396 Thanks: 78 Thanked 107 Times in 75 Posts	Thats exactly the point that I was trying to get across!

07-12-2012, 09:55 AM	#16
SAB1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tuftonboro Posts: 1,253 Thanks: 193 Thanked 334 Times in 242 Posts	Likely it may help to make calls and file complaints with NH F&G. It could be wrong but I am thinking it would take time to implement changes to a goose hunting season. I believe all migratory waterfowl are actually under juristriction of the Federal Government and The State would have to work with the Fed's for changes.