Weirs Beach Water Slide

AC2717 · 07-17-2012, 08:44 AM

lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part

oh yeah that old saying lol

not having insurance = plain stupidity

lack of planing(not having insurance) does not constitue an emergency (in this case paying more for a water slide or anything else they own in order to make up for not having insurance) on my part

I go elsewhere

HellRaZoR004 · 07-17-2012, 10:16 AM

It begs the question of whether they have insurance elsewhere...?

jrc · 07-17-2012, 10:37 AM

OK, I get that the burnt out building is annoying, but the bile towards these people is really ugly.

The people have a right to run their business any way they want, if you don't like the prices, don't go. The market will fix prices that are out of line.

I don't know these people at all. As an outsider, their business skills don't impress me. But personally who knows?

Jeanzb1 · 07-17-2012, 02:59 PM

To JRC: I started the thread to give parents and grandparents a heads-up as to what the prices are before they make plans with the kiddies and then back out and disappoint them. I think a forewarning is reasonable. I'm surprised you seem to disagree.

As far as the Baldi family, no, I don't know them at all, but I certainly do think they should have had some respect for the area and for their fellow business owners and torn down the remains of the burned-out Wide Open Saloon long ago.

spider22 · 07-17-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanzb1

To JRC: I started the thread to give parents and grandparents a heads-up as to what the prices are before they make plans with the kiddies and then back out and disappoint them. I think a forewarning is reasonable. I'm surprised you seem to disagree.

As far as the Baldi family, no, I don't know them at all, but I certainly do think they should have had some respect for the area and for their fellow business owners and torn down the remains of the burned-out Wide Open Saloon long ago.

And I thank you very much. My family and I only get to spend a week in the area every year so time is precious and I do not want to add an attraction like this to our plans for the week at prices like this. So rather than charging me a little for an hour and get that money they try to charge a lot and get none. I like to get my money's worth but fully expect to pay for entertainment and expect people to make a profit but do not expect to pay to rebuild someone's house because they did not have fire insurance.

Shore Driver · 07-17-2012, 03:53 PM

That waterslide is on the slippery slope to a closure. Pardon the pun. But once you start getting out of hand with the rates to make up for lack of customers, you go the way of Surf Coaster.

Last year we went to Whale's Tale for the 2-5 pm price, which was lower than the 2-hour price at Weirs Beach for 3 crummy slides. Easily worth the drive

jrc · 07-17-2012, 04:20 PM

Can't argue with a warning on prices but "dirt bags" seems over the line.

Pontoon Goon · 07-18-2012, 07:43 AM

If you were to take the time to read the deposition you would recall that Mr. Baldi lacked insurance on ALL the vehicles that he owned. The problems with The Wide Open Saloon stems from insurance and now it is alleged that he lacked coverage on his residence. With all this out there how could anybody in their right mind even step foot on the waterslide property ? Just by nature of the activity there is the potential for injury or worse. Not just on the slide but in the parking lot, food from the concession stand, or just as a bystander. If something catastrophic (God forbid) were to happen I for one would not have confidence that proper insurance would be in place. Buyer beware.

NoRegrets · 07-18-2012, 08:20 AM

Maybe the insurance companies "dropped" them as customers and others refused to bid on their holdings pending the case on WOS.

samosetguy · 07-18-2012, 11:45 AM

I just read the bankruptcy deposition transcript (thank you for posting) and I wouldn't let any minor under my supervision travel down the Weirs Beach Water Slide. Unfortunately, Mr. Baldi comes across as incredibly dishonest and irresponsible. I wouldn't have faith that he has insurance nor that the slide is operated in a safe manner.

RailroadJoe · 07-18-2012, 01:42 PM

Anyone know if it get inspected yearly like carnival rides?

Rattlesnake Guy · 07-18-2012, 03:55 PM

Private businesses in the US who have not been granted a monopoly by the government have the right to charge whatever price they want. The supply and demand model will take care of any inefficiency in the market. $35 for a day seems like it would result in little total revenue, but they are entitled to failure or success just like anyone else.

Lakesrider · 07-18-2012, 05:43 PM

Well don't go to Monkey Trunks then either. Talk about costly....

Maybe a call to the Laconia Building inspector or the State's Inspector General would net some results as to whether the slide is safe or not.

I just came back from a Yearly car club gathering at Lake George. Sorry to bring it up once again, but every time I drive by the Weirs I just let out a sigh. The Weirs is a dump compared to the Lake George version. Lake George was a bustling place. Crowds were all well behaved and spending lots of money in the eateries and shops. All of the Motels and hotels were full. We always have to book our rooms at least 6 months in advance. They have not one boat but 4 big tour boats, boat rentals, para-sailing etc..... Sad to see what has happened to the Weirs in total.

This what the Weirs SHOULD look like.

SIKSUKR · 07-19-2012, 08:20 AM

Good to see the guys still check out the eye candy at Lake George too.

jrc · 07-19-2012, 08:51 AM

Since the subject of Weirs beach came up again, I thought I's share this link. It looks like re-doing Weirs beach has been discussed for a long time.

http://weirsbeach.com/reasons-to-vis...evitalization/

samosetguy · 07-19-2012, 11:49 AM

After reading Mr. Baldi's deposition, I decided (out of curiousity) to read Scott Farah's deposition from both days.

It definitely changes my feelings towards Mr. Baldi. Baldi really got screwed bad. He probably should have been acting a lot more responsibly but Scott Farah was a cold and sophisticated con artist who appears to have very little remorse.

He actually got caught in one scam then was able to create a new scam to go another 5 years before everything crashed.

The files are too big to upload but the links are below if anyone else wants to read them.

http://www.dntpc.com/Farah.Scott.Transcript.011411.pdf

http://www.dntpc.com/Farah.Scott.Transcript.011811.pdf

07-17-2012, 08:44 AM	#1
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,588 Thanks: 756 Thanked 358 Times in 269 Posts	lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part oh yeah that old saying lol not having insurance = plain stupidity lack of planing(not having insurance) does not constitue an emergency (in this case paying more for a water slide or anything else they own in order to make up for not having insurance) on my part I go elsewhere __________________ Capt. of the "No Worries"

07-18-2012, 07:43 AM	#8
Pontoon Goon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Stoneham Ma./ Meredith Posts: 141 Thanks: 339 Thanked 67 Times in 27 Posts	A pattern to think about If you were to take the time to read the deposition you would recall that Mr. Baldi lacked insurance on ALL the vehicles that he owned. The problems with The Wide Open Saloon stems from insurance and now it is alleged that he lacked coverage on his residence. With all this out there how could anybody in their right mind even step foot on the waterslide property ? Just by nature of the activity there is the potential for injury or worse. Not just on the slide but in the parking lot, food from the concession stand, or just as a bystander. If something catastrophic (God forbid) were to happen I for one would not have confidence that proper insurance would be in place. Buyer beware.

07-18-2012, 11:45 AM	#10
samosetguy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 63 Thanks: 42 Thanked 36 Times in 15 Posts	Baldi I just read the bankruptcy deposition transcript (thank you for posting) and I wouldn't let any minor under my supervision travel down the Weirs Beach Water Slide. Unfortunately, Mr. Baldi comes across as incredibly dishonest and irresponsible. I wouldn't have faith that he has insurance nor that the slide is operated in a safe manner.

07-19-2012, 08:20 AM	#14
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Busted! Good to see the guys still check out the eye candy at Lake George too. __________________ SIKSUKR

07-19-2012, 11:49 AM	#16
samosetguy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 63 Thanks: 42 Thanked 36 Times in 15 Posts	Scott Farah After reading Mr. Baldi's deposition, I decided (out of curiousity) to read Scott Farah's deposition from both days. It definitely changes my feelings towards Mr. Baldi. Baldi really got screwed bad. He probably should have been acting a lot more responsibly but Scott Farah was a cold and sophisticated con artist who appears to have very little remorse. He actually got caught in one scam then was able to create a new scam to go another 5 years before everything crashed. The files are too big to upload but the links are below if anyone else wants to read them. http://www.dntpc.com/Farah.Scott.Transcript.011411.pdf http://www.dntpc.com/Farah.Scott.Transcript.011811.pdf

07-17-2012, 10:16 AM	#2
HellRaZoR004 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Litchfield/Gilford Posts: 828 Thanks: 233 Thanked 224 Times in 131 Posts	It begs the question of whether they have insurance elsewhere...?

07-17-2012, 10:37 AM	#3
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	OK, I get that the burnt out building is annoying, but the bile towards these people is really ugly. The people have a right to run their business any way they want, if you don't like the prices, don't go. The market will fix prices that are out of line. I don't know these people at all. As an outsider, their business skills don't impress me. But personally who knows?

07-17-2012, 02:59 PM	#4
Jeanzb1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Gilford Posts: 558 Thanks: 640 Thanked 176 Times in 95 Posts	To JRC: I started the thread to give parents and grandparents a heads-up as to what the prices are before they make plans with the kiddies and then back out and disappoint them. I think a forewarning is reasonable. I'm surprised you seem to disagree. As far as the Baldi family, no, I don't know them at all, but I certainly do think they should have had some respect for the area and for their fellow business owners and torn down the remains of the burned-out Wide Open Saloon long ago.

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07-17-2012, 03:53 PM	#6
Shore Driver Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tolland CT Posts: 194 Thanks: 20 Thanked 31 Times in 25 Posts	That waterslide is on the slippery slope to a closure. Pardon the pun. But once you start getting out of hand with the rates to make up for lack of customers, you go the way of Surf Coaster. Last year we went to Whale's Tale for the 2-5 pm price, which was lower than the 2-hour price at Weirs Beach for 3 crummy slides. Easily worth the drive

07-17-2012, 04:20 PM	#7
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	Can't argue with a warning on prices but "dirt bags" seems over the line.

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07-18-2012, 08:20 AM	#9
NoRegrets Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hudson - NH Posts: 408 Thanks: 233 Thanked 212 Times in 88 Posts	Maybe the insurance companies "dropped" them as customers and others refused to bid on their holdings pending the case on WOS.

07-18-2012, 01:42 PM	#11
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	Anyone know if it get inspected yearly like carnival rides?

07-18-2012, 03:55 PM	#12
Rattlesnake Guy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,254 Thanks: 423 Thanked 366 Times in 175 Posts	Private businesses in the US who have not been granted a monopoly by the government have the right to charge whatever price they want. The supply and demand model will take care of any inefficiency in the market. $35 for a day seems like it would result in little total revenue, but they are entitled to failure or success just like anyone else.

07-18-2012, 05:43 PM	#13
Lakesrider Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,129 Thanks: 380 Thanked 1,016 Times in 345 Posts	Well don't go to Monkey Trunks then either. Talk about costly.... Maybe a call to the Laconia Building inspector or the State's Inspector General would net some results as to whether the slide is safe or not. I just came back from a Yearly car club gathering at Lake George. Sorry to bring it up once again, but every time I drive by the Weirs I just let out a sigh. The Weirs is a dump compared to the Lake George version. Lake George was a bustling place. Crowds were all well behaved and spending lots of money in the eateries and shops. All of the Motels and hotels were full. We always have to book our rooms at least 6 months in advance. They have not one boat but 4 big tour boats, boat rentals, para-sailing etc..... Sad to see what has happened to the Weirs in total. This what the Weirs SHOULD look like.

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07-19-2012, 08:51 AM	#15
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	Since the subject of Weirs beach came up again, I thought I's share this link. It looks like re-doing Weirs beach has been discussed for a long time. http://weirsbeach.com/reasons-to-vis...evitalization/

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