Sandbar etiquette.

[Blue Thunder]

Originally Posted by Belmont Resident

Once again an example of what is missing on the lake, common sense and respect for others.

Common sense isn't all that common anymore....

[upthesaukee]

Originally Posted by Blue Thunder

Common sense isn't all that common anymore....

there are several of these obits out in cyberspace. This one came from 93.1 Wolf radio.

Today, we mourn the passing of an old friend by the name of Common Sense.

Common Sense lived a long life, but died from heart failure at the brink of the Millennium. No one really knows how old he was since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape. He selflessly devoted his life to service in schools; hospitals, homes, factories and offices, helping folks get jobs done without fanfare and foolishness.

For decades, petty rules, silly laws and frivolous lawsuits held no power over Common Sense. He was credited with cultivating such valued lessons as to know when to come in from rain, the early bird gets the worm and life isn't always fair.

Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you earn), reliable parenting strategies (the adults are in charge, not the kids), and it's okay to come in second.

A veteran of the Industrial Revolution, the Great Depression, and the Technological Revolution, Common Sense survived cultural and educational trends including feminism, body piercing, whole language and new math.

But his health declined when he became infected with the "if-it-only-helps-one-person-it's-worth-it" virus. In recent decades, his waning strength proved no match for the ravages of overbearing federal legislation.

He watched in pain as good people became ruled by self-seeking lawyers and enlightened auditors. His health rapidly deteriorated when schools endlessly implemented zero tolerance policies; when reports were heard of six year old boys charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; when a teen was suspended for taking a swig of mouthwash after lunch; when a teacher was fired for reprimanding an unruly student. It declined even further when schools had to get parental consent to administer aspirin to a student but couldn't inform the parent when a female student is pregnant or wants an abortion.

Finally, Common Sense lost his will to live as the Ten Commandments became contraband, churches became businesses, criminals received better treatment than victims, and federal judges stuck their noses in everything from Boy Scouts to professional sports.

As the end neared, Common Sense drifted in and out of logic but was kept informed of developments, regarding questionable regulations for asbestos, low-flow toilets, smart guns, the nurturing of Prohibition Laws and mandatory air bags.

Finally, when told that the homeowners association restricted exterior furniture only to that which enhanced property values, he breathed his last.

Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents Truth and Trust; his wife, Discretion; his daughter, Responsibility; and his son Reason. His three stepbrothers survive him: Rights, Tolerance and Whiner.

Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone.

Now.......back to the topic at hand about sandbars.

[Grandpa Redneck]

Yep, these days Common Sence is so rare it ought to be a super power!

[garysanfran]

There' another thread about boaters spending the night anchored out. Some support it. Can you imagine how far that music will carry over the water at 1:00 am? And who ya gonna call? Just grin-and-bear-it? The poor Lake is changing and the increase in population also brings in more of those one-in-a-hundred, that can spoil it for a very large diameter.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

There' another thread about boaters spending the night anchored out. Some support it. Can you imagine how far that music will carry over the water at 1:00 am? And who ya gonna call? Just grin-and-bear-it? The poor Lake is changing and the increase in population also brings in more of those one-in-a-hundred, that can spoil it for a very large diameter.

Loud music at 1 AM is against the law. It's not necessarily against the law 3 PM, it's just rude.


644:2 Disorderly Conduct. – A person is guilty of disorderly conduct if:


III. He purposely causes a breach of the peace, public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creates a risk thereof, by:
(a) Making loud or unreasonable noises in a public place, or making loud or unreasonable noises in a private place which can be heard in a public place or other private places, which noises would disturb a person of average sensibilities; or
III-a. When noise under subparagraph III(a) is emanating from a vehicle's sound system or any portable sound system located within a vehicle, a law enforcement officer shall be considered a person of average sensibilities for purposes of determining whether the volume of such noise constitutes a breach of the peace, public inconvenience, annoyance, or alarm, and the officer may take enforcement action to abate such noise upon detecting the noise, or upon receiving a complaint from another person.

[Kamper]

"..the officer may take enforcement action to abate such noise upon detecting the noise, or upon receiving a complaint from another person. "

This is the good and bad of it. You have to make a complaint for the authorities to take action under NH 'disturbing the peace' rules. Whatever their reasoning for the public entertainment, if they were asked to turn it down and did not, police assistance could have been requested. During the day there is usually little they can do besides ask the obnoxious to turn it down though.

But... Frequently people this oblivious about the negative results of their action are intoxicated. Even if the operator is sober,this could provide enough leverage to get them to adjust their behavior.

[garysanfran]

Originally Posted by Dave R

Loud music at 1 AM is against the law. It's not necessarily against the law 3 PM, it's just rude.


644:2 Disorderly Conduct. – A person is guilty of disorderly conduct if:


III. He purposely causes a breach of the peace, public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creates a risk thereof, by:
(a) Making loud or unreasonable noises in a public place, or making loud or unreasonable noises in a private place which can be heard in a public place or other private places, which noises would disturb a person of average sensibilities; or
III-a. When noise under subparagraph III(a) is emanating from a vehicle's sound system or any portable sound system located within a vehicle, a law enforcement officer shall be considered a person of average sensibilities for purposes of determining whether the volume of such noise constitutes a breach of the peace, public inconvenience, annoyance, or alarm, and the officer may take enforcement action to abate such noise upon detecting the noise, or upon receiving a complaint from another person.

Like I asked "Who are you going to call at 1:00am? The police? Nope. They're not going out there. Marine Patrol? Not operating at that time. I know it's against the law, but tell me what you would do?

[NHBUOY]

A kayak and a box of exploding Roman Candles.?.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

Like I asked "Who are you going to call at 1:00am? The police? Nope. They're not going out there. Marine Patrol? Not operating at that time. I know it's against the law, but tell me what you would do?

I've got an awesome potato cannon... Never had to deal with it, not sure what I'd do.

If the MP is not operating at 1AM, what's to stop people from anchoring overnight now?

[Pineedles]

If it can rain cats and dogs, then I guess it can rain potatoes. Frogs are another descending species that have been observed.