Penalty for non-certification?

Rinkerfam · 07-13-2005, 11:21 PM

If I''m not mistaken, I believe there is another issue with taking the course on line. My understanding is that if you take the course other than in the classroom you are not covered in other states that recognize a NASBLA APPROVED course. On the back of the Cert. Card there is a space designated to "Certification Source". I believe that "Classroom" is the only designation that grants you reciprocation in states which recognize NASBLA. If I am wrong about this please let me know.

Kamper · 07-14-2005, 07:09 AM

In the above link, change "nh" to whatever state code you are interested in. If it comes back then I'd bet you have no problem. The materials for the NASBLA certification are all the same with just a different state logo since they are aproved by the USCG.

There is a charge for the on-line certification, $15.00. If you dont pay it the program will not allow you to print the temporary certificate and the company wont mail the permanent credential either.

The actual test for the class-rom course is on the back of the work book. You can get this free at many places. Get an extra copy because the instructor may ask you to give them the blank one at the start of the course so it can be used at the end of the course. If you want to you can "pre-test" with an open book using your own copy.

Rinkerfam · 07-15-2005, 03:25 PM

What I was refering to was if you were operating a boat in another state that recognized a NASBLA approved certification, and were carrying your NH safe boating card, you would only be covered if the back of your card stated that the source of your certification was marked Classroom. I think the cards state whether you were certified in the classroom, on line etc... I don't know how many of us would likely be operating in another state, but someone asked about it in my class and I'm pretty sure the instructor explained it the way I have.

RLW · 07-15-2005, 06:05 PM

My certificate states right on the front and I qoute "This is a NASBLA APPROVED course" & certication source on the back is BLANK
Guess that makes one wonder if it is or is not good in other states using the rules and or statment being made regarding classrom and/or internet. Not a argument just a statement as to what my certificate states.

Rinkerfam · 07-16-2005, 01:11 AM

RLW
That's interesting. I wonder if anyone else would be willing to check their cards to see what's on the back. I honestly don't know what the ruling is with respect to reciprocation. I was hoping that someone with more knowledge could shed some light on the subject for me (and others). I was just wondering if I remembered the explanation about reciprocity correctly or if I misinterpreted it

Island Girl · 07-16-2005, 05:33 AM

I had the same understanding... if you took the class then your certification was valid in other states that had reciprocity and that it is indicated on your card as mentioned. I believe that is stated in the study materials on line as well.

Kamper · 07-16-2005, 07:30 AM

http://www.boat-ed.com/nh/nh_internet.htm

"The content of the Boat New Hampshire course is also approved by the National Association of State Boating Law Administrators (NASBLA) as both a boat and personal watercraft (PWC) safety course and is recognized by the U. S. Coast Guard."

I read this to mean the on-line course is acceptable to all 31 states using the NASBLA curriculum. The states and territories not listed probably do not require certification right now.

[ Alabama ] [ Arkansas ] [ Delaware ] [ Florida ] [ Georgia ] [ Idaho ] [ Indiana ] [ Iowa ] [ Kansas ] [ Kentucky ] [ Louisiana ] [ Massachusetts ] [ Minnesota ] [ Mississippi ] [ Missouri ] [ Nevada ] [ New Hampshire ] [ North Carolina ] [ Ohio ] [ Oklahoma ] [ Oregon ] [ Pennsylvania ] [ Rhode Island ] [ South Carolina ] [ Tennessee ] [ Texas ] [ Utah ] [ Vermont ] [ Virginia ] [ Washington ]

Using the NH bouy system as an example, I would expect some variations between the states but enough of the information is the same that you would be a safe operator in "foreign" waters. A good suggestion might be to take the practice test for any state you intend to visit to see if you need to review any materials prior to going there. After you take the practice test you are provided links to review material for any questions you have missed.

ghfromaltonbay · 07-23-2005, 01:28 PM

What is the fine for an underage (therefore uncertified) driver of a PWC? There is a 15 year old (who looks about 12) at Sandy Point who is out every weekend alone on her family's PWC and it seems the Marine Patrol is never around when this kid goes out. They only stop people like my Dad who's 76 and has his certification. They've wrongfully stopped him and my brother (age 48) for being less than 150 from the spars (duh??) and Lighted Buoy 23 off Sandy Point, but they never seem to be around when this kid is flying all over the place on Saturday afternoons. Go figure.

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07-13-2005, 11:21 PM	#1
Rinkerfam Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 268 Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts	If I''m not mistaken, I believe there is another issue with taking the course on line. My understanding is that if you take the course other than in the classroom you are not covered in other states that recognize a NASBLA APPROVED course. On the back of the Cert. Card there is a space designated to "Certification Source". I believe that "Classroom" is the only designation that grants you reciprocation in states which recognize NASBLA. If I am wrong about this please let me know. __________________ Education is hanging around 'til you've caught on - Frost

07-14-2005, 07:09 AM	#2
Kamper Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Thornton's Ferry Posts: 1,309 Thanks: 67 Thanked 172 Times in 128 Posts	on-line reciprocity In the above link, change "nh" to whatever state code you are interested in. If it comes back then I'd bet you have no problem. The materials for the NASBLA certification are all the same with just a different state logo since they are aproved by the USCG. There is a charge for the on-line certification, $15.00. If you dont pay it the program will not allow you to print the temporary certificate and the company wont mail the permanent credential either. The actual test for the class-rom course is on the back of the work book. You can get this free at many places. Get an extra copy because the instructor may ask you to give them the blank one at the start of the course so it can be used at the end of the course. If you want to you can "pre-test" with an open book using your own copy.

07-15-2005, 03:25 PM	#3
Rinkerfam Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 268 Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts	What I was refering to was if you were operating a boat in another state that recognized a NASBLA approved certification, and were carrying your NH safe boating card, you would only be covered if the back of your card stated that the source of your certification was marked Classroom. I think the cards state whether you were certified in the classroom, on line etc... I don't know how many of us would likely be operating in another state, but someone asked about it in my class and I'm pretty sure the instructor explained it the way I have. __________________ Education is hanging around 'til you've caught on - Frost

07-15-2005, 06:05 PM	#4
RLW Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alton Bay on the mountain by a lake Posts: 2,023 Thanks: 563 Thanked 444 Times in 311 Posts	My certificate states right on the front and I qoute "This is a NASBLA APPROVED course" & certication source on the back is BLANK Guess that makes one wonder if it is or is not good in other states using the rules and or statment being made regarding classrom and/or internet. Not a argument just a statement as to what my certificate states. __________________ There is nothing better than living on Alton Mountain & our grand kids visits.

07-16-2005, 01:11 AM	#5
Rinkerfam Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 268 Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts	RLW That's interesting. I wonder if anyone else would be willing to check their cards to see what's on the back. I honestly don't know what the ruling is with respect to reciprocation. I was hoping that someone with more knowledge could shed some light on the subject for me (and others). I was just wondering if I remembered the explanation about reciprocity correctly or if I misinterpreted it __________________ Education is hanging around 'til you've caught on - Frost

07-16-2005, 05:33 AM	#6
Island Girl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Central MA Posts: 2,356 Thanks: 18 Thanked 574 Times in 181 Posts	Correct I had the same understanding... if you took the class then your certification was valid in other states that had reciprocity and that it is indicated on your card as mentioned. I believe that is stated in the study materials on line as well. __________________ Island Girl ....... Make Lemonade

07-16-2005, 07:30 AM	#7
Kamper Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Thornton's Ferry Posts: 1,309 Thanks: 67 Thanked 172 Times in 128 Posts	Nasbla http://www.boat-ed.com/nh/nh_internet.htm "The content of the Boat New Hampshire course is also approved by the National Association of State Boating Law Administrators (NASBLA) as both a boat and personal watercraft (PWC) safety course and is recognized by the U. S. Coast Guard." I read this to mean the on-line course is acceptable to all 31 states using the NASBLA curriculum. The states and territories not listed probably do not require certification right now. [ Alabama ] [ Arkansas ] [ Delaware ] [ Florida ] [ Georgia ] [ Idaho ] [ Indiana ] [ Iowa ] [ Kansas ] [ Kentucky ] [ Louisiana ] [ Massachusetts ] [ Minnesota ] [ Mississippi ] [ Missouri ] [ Nevada ] [ New Hampshire ] [ North Carolina ] [ Ohio ] [ Oklahoma ] [ Oregon ] [ Pennsylvania ] [ Rhode Island ] [ South Carolina ] [ Tennessee ] [ Texas ] [ Utah ] [ Vermont ] [ Virginia ] [ Washington ] Using the NH bouy system as an example, I would expect some variations between the states but enough of the information is the same that you would be a safe operator in "foreign" waters. A good suggestion might be to take the practice test for any state you intend to visit to see if you need to review any materials prior to going there. After you take the practice test you are provided links to review material for any questions you have missed.

07-23-2005, 01:28 PM	#8
ghfromaltonbay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Clifton, NJ, Alton Bay Posts: 833 Thanks: 257 Thanked 225 Times in 131 Posts	Underage Drivers What is the fine for an underage (therefore uncertified) driver of a PWC? There is a 15 year old (who looks about 12) at Sandy Point who is out every weekend alone on her family's PWC and it seems the Marine Patrol is never around when this kid goes out. They only stop people like my Dad who's 76 and has his certification. They've wrongfully stopped him and my brother (age 48) for being less than 150 from the spars (duh??) and Lighted Buoy 23 off Sandy Point, but they never seem to be around when this kid is flying all over the place on Saturday afternoons. Go figure. :