Marine Patrol Seeking Recruits - Summer 2013

Blue Thunder · 11-02-2012, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by secondcurve

You may have to worry about the situation when the well runs dry which in my opinion isn't too far down the road. In the meantime continue to be fat, dumb and happy.

Once again, Secondcurve didn't disappoint with another stupid remark.....

secondcurve · 11-02-2012, 08:01 AM

Sorry Blue Thunder but when a 45 year old retired Massachusetts civil servant doesn't think his pension has anything to do with the Massachusetts tax payer I lose my mind. When too many folks start to view their state/government benefits as god given rights delivered from heaven we are screwed. This is what Mitt Romney was trying to say when he made his infamous 47% comment. I am willing to pay my fair share and even more but there needs to be shared sacrifice. These are the facts my friend and the sooner we collectively realize them the better off this country will be.

Blue Thunder · 11-02-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by secondcurve

Sorry Blue Thunder but when a 45 year old retired Massachusetts civil servant doesn't think his pension has anything to do with the Massachusetts tax payer I loose my mind. When too many folks start to view their state/government benefits as a god given rights delivered from heaven we are screwed. This is what Mitt Romney was trying to say when he made his infamous 47% comment. I am willing to pay my fair share and even more but there needs to be shared sacrifice. These are the facts my friend and the sooner we collectively realize them the better off this country will be.

I know very few, if any, government employees who view their benefits as "god given rights". Those benefits were negotiated in good faith many years ago by both sides, often in lieu of pay raises when cities and towns couldn't afford it. Private industry was booming and paying their employees handsomely with the benefits to boot. The public employee got left behind. Don't hold the public employee responsible today for something that they had nothing to do with 25 years ago.
I have been a firefighter myself for 34 years (disclosure complete). It is not not my primary employment so I won't be receiving a pension from it. I run into burning buildings when everyone else is running out. 99.9% of the people that I know say I'm crazy to do it. Maybe so. Whatever we pay our firefighters and police officers in todays world isn't enough given the dangerous life threatening situations they are put in EVERY day. You are broad brushing it too much for me....
BT

PaugusBayFireFighter · 11-02-2012, 10:38 AM

Back on topic.
This job is a fantastic opportunity for a young man or woman with ambitions to become a full time Marine Patrol, police officer or any other law enforcement position. Even if it's part time, it will make for great training and a very important job resume for future full time employment. I mentioned before that I'd love to see preference given to a returning soldier who has done similar work but in a war zone. We have so many qualified soldiers coming home unable to get jobs because they don't have the state license required to be hired. This position is entry level, so the certification and training are part of the deal.
I wish my 4 boys were in the states to apply, but they have a bit of time before they fulfill their military obligations.

P-3 Guy · 11-03-2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PaugusBayFireFighter

We have so many qualified soldiers coming home unable to get jobs because they don't have the state license required to be hired.

The new GI Bill is a tremendous benefit for veterans, and it will even pay the exam/license fee for state professional licenses. If you're a qualified veteran with GI Bill benefits, not having a state professional license shouldn't be an excuse. If you're not qualified in a trade and want to get the training, the GI Bill will pay for the classes and provide a housing allowance; the eligible veteran just needs to supply the initiative.

AC2717 · 11-02-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Thunder

Those benefits were negotiated in good faith many years ago by both sides, often in lieu of pay raises when cities and towns couldn't afford it. Private industry was booming and paying their employees handsomely with the benefits to boot. The public employee got left behind. Don't hold the public employee responsible today for something that they had nothing to do with 25 years ago. BT

I think this is the major problem (not saying you are), years ago those deals worked, now they do not work, and no one is willing to adjust with the times on both sides. There has to be a negotiation or we will end up in the gutter.

Belmont Resident · 11-03-2012, 07:10 AM

My wife grew up in Toms River NJ and is still in contact through social media with old friends.
Apparently some volunteer electrical workers came to NJ looking to help with repairs. They were told they could not be used because they were not union workers. So they left NJ and went to another state to help out.
This is why many of us do not like unions. As a person many of the workers are great people, but as a union they cannot think for themselves and when striking become an angry mob who acts like a child when he cannot have his own way. Instead of just striking they have to create problems for those who are willing to step in and actually work.
Oh and then there's the really bright ones who put signs on their kids and send them to do their bidding as was posted on FB during the last Verizon strike, the one where most American were saying fire the whole lot and hire people who want to work instead of making unreasonable demands.
Yes unreasonable because they were striking over the same exact thing that every company in America is dealing with. Passing more health costs onto the employee. Most would be thankful to have a job and be able to support their family but not union workers, they are better then the rest of us.
Sorry I like the other 90% in this country feel that the sooner unions are done away with the better off this country will be.
Labor laws have changed with time, unfortunately unions have not.

tis · 11-03-2012, 07:58 AM

I heard that about those electrical workers driving 24 hours from Alabama ( I heard to NY) to help but were turned away since they were union. Can you imagine? All those people are so desperate yet the workers weren't allowed????!!!! I think often it is the union bosses not the union members who are so greedy.

BroadHopper · 11-03-2012, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tis

I heard that about those electrical workers driving 24 hours from Alabama ( I heard to NY) to help but were turned away since they were union. Can you imagine? All those people are so desperate yet the workers weren't allowed????!!!! I think often it is the union bosses not the union members who are so greedy.

Remember Jimmy Hoffa?

BroadHopper · 11-03-2012, 10:04 AM

Not only union restrictions but state license. Trade people license in one state cannot work in another state unless the state makes an emergency agreement. My daughter is a licensed insurance adjuster/appraiser in Mass. When Katrina hit the Southern states, MetLife sent her to Louisiana to help out in the emergency, only to return home because Louisiana will only allow adjusters license in the state. To qualify requires so many hours working in the state and to past a test. You would think states would waiver license restrictions in case of emergency? Do license requirements vary that much between states? I would not think so. Most states adopt the RBC codes and the Feds set guidelines.

BroadHopper · 11-02-2012, 08:03 AM

I have no problem paying public employees as they do a lot of work with so little. And firefighters, policemen, and our armed forces put themselves in harm's way. I salute you and you deserve every penny.

It's when times ae tough and the private sector is taking a huge hit. The average American wages is going down while inflation is going up. At his stage of the game who is going to pay the public sector's current wages?

The unions needs to see reality as it is. If the taxpayers can't afford it, the union members need to step up to the plate and gives the taxpayers a break.

The crooked politicians needs to step up and reduced their pay and benefits, reduce pork barrels and allow their employees the benefits they deserve.

upthesaukee · 11-02-2012, 08:36 AM

Perhaps we can get this thread back on track.

The politics of retirement plans of any kind, someone who moved to NH and is collecting a retirement from another state, etc. are not part of this thread, IMHO.

Marine Patrol has announced the testing and hiring of Seasonal Marine Patrol Officers, something that is done almost every year. That is what this thread is about.

Time to stop the bickering and name calling that has once again entered a thread on this forum.

11-02-2012, 08:01 AM	#2
secondcurve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,128 Thanks: 1,343 Thanked 564 Times in 291 Posts	Sorry Blue Thunder but when a 45 year old retired Massachusetts civil servant doesn't think his pension has anything to do with the Massachusetts tax payer I lose my mind. When too many folks start to view their state/government benefits as god given rights delivered from heaven we are screwed. This is what Mitt Romney was trying to say when he made his infamous 47% comment. I am willing to pay my fair share and even more but there needs to be shared sacrifice. These are the facts my friend and the sooner we collectively realize them the better off this country will be. Last edited by secondcurve; 11-02-2012 at 05:59 PM.

11-03-2012, 07:10 AM	#7
Belmont Resident Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Belmont NH but prefer Jackman Maine Posts: 1,857 Thanks: 491 Thanked 410 Times in 251 Posts	From Facebook My wife grew up in Toms River NJ and is still in contact through social media with old friends. Apparently some volunteer electrical workers came to NJ looking to help with repairs. They were told they could not be used because they were not union workers. So they left NJ and went to another state to help out. This is why many of us do not like unions. As a person many of the workers are great people, but as a union they cannot think for themselves and when striking become an angry mob who acts like a child when he cannot have his own way. Instead of just striking they have to create problems for those who are willing to step in and actually work. Oh and then there's the really bright ones who put signs on their kids and send them to do their bidding as was posted on FB during the last Verizon strike, the one where most American were saying fire the whole lot and hire people who want to work instead of making unreasonable demands. Yes unreasonable because they were striking over the same exact thing that every company in America is dealing with. Passing more health costs onto the employee. Most would be thankful to have a job and be able to support their family but not union workers, they are better then the rest of us. Sorry I like the other 90% in this country feel that the sooner unions are done away with the better off this country will be. Labor laws have changed with time, unfortunately unions have not. __________________ "better to have a short life that is full of what you like doing, then a long life spent in a miserable way.."

11-03-2012, 10:04 AM	#10
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,606 Thanks: 3,238 Thanked 1,113 Times in 799 Posts	State license Not only union restrictions but state license. Trade people license in one state cannot work in another state unless the state makes an emergency agreement. My daughter is a licensed insurance adjuster/appraiser in Mass. When Katrina hit the Southern states, MetLife sent her to Louisiana to help out in the emergency, only to return home because Louisiana will only allow adjusters license in the state. To qualify requires so many hours working in the state and to past a test. You would think states would waiver license restrictions in case of emergency? Do license requirements vary that much between states? I would not think so. Most states adopt the RBC codes and the Feds set guidelines. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

11-02-2012, 08:03 AM	#11
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,606 Thanks: 3,238 Thanked 1,113 Times in 799 Posts	Public Employees I have no problem paying public employees as they do a lot of work with so little. And firefighters, policemen, and our armed forces put themselves in harm's way. I salute you and you deserve every penny. It's when times ae tough and the private sector is taking a huge hit. The average American wages is going down while inflation is going up. At his stage of the game who is going to pay the public sector's current wages? The unions needs to see reality as it is. If the taxpayers can't afford it, the union members need to step up to the plate and gives the taxpayers a break. The crooked politicians needs to step up and reduced their pay and benefits, reduce pork barrels and allow their employees the benefits they deserve. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

11-02-2012, 08:36 AM	#12
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,607 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,478 Thanked 1,984 Times in 1,084 Posts	Getting way off topic! Perhaps we can get this thread back on track. The politics of retirement plans of any kind, someone who moved to NH and is collecting a retirement from another state, etc. are not part of this thread, IMHO. Marine Patrol has announced the testing and hiring of Seasonal Marine Patrol Officers, something that is done almost every year. That is what this thread is about. Time to stop the bickering and name calling that has once again entered a thread on this forum. __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

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11-02-2012, 10:38 AM	#4
PaugusBayFireFighter Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 837 Thanks: 361 Thanked 674 Times in 264 Posts	Back on topic. This job is a fantastic opportunity for a young man or woman with ambitions to become a full time Marine Patrol, police officer or any other law enforcement position. Even if it's part time, it will make for great training and a very important job resume for future full time employment. I mentioned before that I'd love to see preference given to a returning soldier who has done similar work but in a war zone. We have so many qualified soldiers coming home unable to get jobs because they don't have the state license required to be hired. This position is entry level, so the certification and training are part of the deal. I wish my 4 boys were in the states to apply, but they have a bit of time before they fulfill their military obligations.

11-03-2012, 07:58 AM	#8
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,814 Thanks: 759 Thanked 1,469 Times in 1,025 Posts	I heard that about those electrical workers driving 24 hours from Alabama ( I heard to NY) to help but were turned away since they were union. Can you imagine? All those people are so desperate yet the workers weren't allowed????!!!! I think often it is the union bosses not the union members who are so greedy.

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