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Old 01-21-2013, 03:26 PM   #1
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Default Good grief.

Does every post have to devolve into snide political comments? Gets pretty tiresome, frankly.
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:06 AM   #2
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Angry Sue them?

This forum is going down hill fast!!!

But to add my .02 it is bone heads like those who want to sue at the drop of a hat that have cost the rest of us to pay more for the things we like to do.
Daa, once you sue the insurance rates go up and then so do the lift tickets then away goes the customers because they now cannot afford to pay the increased cost. All because some whinning, I hurt myself decided to sue.
Almost ALL outdoor activities offer some sort of danger level.
If you are not ready to handle and except that, then stay home and find something else to do and let the rest of us take our chances and have fun.
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:50 AM   #3
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Default Cost of liability insurance

is the biggest reason why all the Mom and Pop ski hills folded. We are lucky to have ski resorts.

As long as law makers are lawyers they will pass laws that will fatten the wallets. No wonder it is easy to sue.
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:33 PM   #4
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is the biggest reason why all the Mom and Pop ski hills folded. We are lucky to have ski resorts.

As long as law makers are lawyers they will pass laws that will fatten the wallets. No wonder it is easy to sue.
But then what do we do about the "bean counters" willing to let quality slide and people be harmed? They make my blood boil just as much.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:05 PM   #5
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Does every post have to devolve into snide political comments? Gets pretty tiresome, frankly.
Many snide political comments have been made over the years to make a valid point. Here's one example:

"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

There were probably some unhappy people back in that time, too, admonishing people like Patrick Henry. I'm not comparing anybody here with him. But we have recent history of absolute craziness that we all need to pay attention to, such as a Malden Mass elementary school this week banning students from bringing Valentine’s Day candy or cards over cultural equality issues and federal guidelines regulating candy, to federal gun control, and NYC Big Gulp controls. I personally think the suppression of individual liberty is more tiresome.
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Old 02-15-2013, 02:53 PM   #6
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Default Accidents Happen

Quite Frankly I am disgusted reading this thread. I see so many comments about how this family should be compensated. Yet when I read the article, that didn't seem to be the intent. The family isn't holding any ill will to the ski area, and plans to return. So that can't be all that upset at the incident.

Unfortunately lawyers have turned us into an everything is someone else fault society. Nobody is responsible for there own actions. And if your hurt somebody needs to compensate you.

I look at this incident and say how could the outcome have been different:
What if the boy had just fallen down and not grab his brother?
What if the father hadn't grabbed both kids?
What if the father hadn't tried to hold onto the kids as long?
What if the attendant had stopped the lift sooner?
What if the lift had been running slower?

There are more then enough what ifs to keep that list going.

Is it unfortunate that a 2 kids got hurt. Yes it is and I feel bad for them. But was it the Ski Area's fault?, the Dad's fault? The Kids fault? Hell even the lift manufactures fault, I mean obviously a safer lift could be manufactured....

At the end of the day, this was an accident, and yep a couple of kids got hurt, and that is sad. But Accidents happen, All the time, if we as a society, keep looking for people to pay through the nose because of Accidents we are all doomed, to someday, not want to even leave our homes. Because heaven forbid we bump into someone walk in the mall, and they stumble because of it.

Anyway enough of my rant....
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I heard it was Bush's fault.
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Unfortunately lawyers have turned us into an everything is someone else fault society. Nobody is responsible for there own actions.
So, let me see if I understand. You are blaming someone else (the lawyers) for the "fact" (in your opinion, at least) that our society believes everything is someone else's fault?
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Many snide political comments have been made over the years to make a valid point. Here's one example:

"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

There were probably some unhappy people back in that time, too, admonishing people like Patrick Henry. I'm not comparing anybody here with him. But we have recent history of absolute craziness that we all need to pay attention to, such as a Malden Mass elementary school this week banning students from bringing Valentine’s Day candy or cards over cultural equality issues and federal guidelines regulating candy, to federal gun control, and NYC Big Gulp controls. I personally think the suppression of individual liberty is more tiresome.
This is a forum to discuss lake topics. Those of you that want to make off topic political snipes just because you think it's somehow entertaining corrode one of the core values of this forum. That's my opinion. Your dragging some complete non sequitur comment about Malden school candy policy into this thread is just a further example of how you either do not understand the pool rules or, more likely, think they don't apply to you.

This is a forum. It has rules. When you join you agree to follow them. That's not impinging on your personal liberty. You made a choice. You don't like the rules, then leave the site.
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Mink Islander, just pressing the thanks button is not enough. Thank you, thank you, thank you for reminding members that there are rules they need to follow in order to preserve the integrity of this marvelous forum.

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This is a forum to discuss lake topics. Those of you that want to make off topic political snipes just because you think it's somehow entertaining corrode one of the core values of this forum. That's my opinion. Your dragging some complete non sequitur comment about Malden school candy policy into this thread is just a further example of how you either do not understand the pool rules or, more likely, think they don't apply to you.

This is a forum. It has rules. When you join you agree to follow them. That's not impinging on your personal liberty. You made a choice. You don't like the rules, then leave the site.
I make a comment about individual liberties, and I'm ordered off the forum by one of its members???!!

I rest my case regarding, generally, individual liberties.
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I make a comment about individual liberties, and I'm ordered off the forum by one of its members???!!

I rest my case regarding, generally, individual liberties.
I think some people need to take some Midol or something.
There, that off topic enough for you?
Just about every single discussion gets off topic for some reason or another, some of you just need to settle down and deal with it. Honestly if things didn't then this would be one boring forum.
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In light of recent developments...

It was, in fact, NOT Bush's fault.

It was Winnie's fault.
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I make a comment about individual liberties, and I'm ordered off the forum by one of its members???!!

I rest my case regarding, generally, individual liberties.
Guys like you make me laugh. Your definition of individual liberty is "I do whatever the F I want and I don't care about laws,rules or anything else. It's all about me. If you disagree I'll tell you it's all about my individual liberties". And read my post again. I said IF you can't follow forum rules you should go away. Rules you have already agreed to follow. And you won't get dessert unless you finish your peas. But I guess your mother would be violating your individual liberties. You do still live with your mother, right? Lol.
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guys like you make me laugh. Your definition of individual liberty is "i do whatever the f i want and i don't care about laws,rules or anything else. It's all about me. If you disagree i'll tell you it's all about my individual liberties". And read my post again. I said if you can't follow forum rules you should go away. Rules you have already agreed to follow. And you won't get dessert unless you finish your peas. But i guess your mother would be violating your individual liberties. You do still live with your mother, right? Lol.
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guys like you make me laugh. Your definition of individual liberty is "i do whatever the f i want and i don't care about laws,rules or anything else. It's all about me. If you disagree i'll tell you it's all about my individual liberties". And read my post again. I said if you can't follow forum rules you should go away. Rules you have already agreed to follow. And you won't get dessert unless you finish your peas. But i guess your mother would be violating your individual liberties. You do still live with your mother, right? Lol.
You two want to go get a coffee, maybe some breakfast?
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