Ice Airport 2013

[Altonbayicefishingfool]

My shack is half way up the runway on the left, last weekend ice thickness varied from 9 inches to 6 inches within only 50 feet!

There was a Toyota Tacoma out there last Sunday. Ice is safe but again it varies.
Also, a four wheeler went in the drink in the bay last Saturday, mainly because the guy was an idiot and should have known he shouldn't have been in the area he was.

I certainly hope the planes this year can land ON the designated runway and NOT in the road we had plowed to access our shacks. I find it hard to believe the guy confused our road with the runway, and this is a licensed pilot??!!

[Reilly]

45 mph speed limit on lake , how does a plane land & take off ???

[NoBozo]

Originally Posted by Reilly

45 mph speed limit on lake , how does a plane land & take off ???

Planes are exempt from the Boat speed limit which is when the lake is not frozen...and the Marine Patrol is watchin.. I don't think there is a speed limit on the ICE. NB

PS: ALL activities on the ICE require Experience in "Reading" the ICE and Common Sense.

[Altonbayicefishingfool]

Originally Posted by Reilly

45 mph speed limit on lake , how does a plane land & take off ???

Winter activities on winnipesaukee are exempt from ANY Speed limits. Only snowmobile trails are posted @ 45 mph in the state of NH.

However; you must go 10mph or less within 150 feet of a bob house,tip ups, cusk lines etc.

[Belmont Resident]

Originally Posted by Altonbayicefishingfool

Winter activities on winnipesaukee are exempt from ANY Speed limits. Only snowmobile trails are posted @ 45 mph in the state of NH.

However; you must go 10mph or less within 150 feet of a bob house,tip ups, cusk lines etc.

Unless otherwise posted lakes have no speed limits when covered with ice.
This applies to ATV's and snowmobiles. The exception is a few lakes with posted speed limits in Pittsburg.

Unless I was reading incorrectly I thought the rule read within 150 feet of an occupied bob house. If correct how is one to know.
Just curious, as we do not ride in NH and personally as with boats, I'd rather be well away from others when cruising up the lake, because many times it is in the 80-100mph region when we are on our sleds.

[Slickcraft]

Originally Posted by Reilly

45 mph speed limit on lake , how does a plane land & take off ???

As has been noted exempt when landing and taking off.

RSA 270:13-a Operation of Seaplanes or Helicopters on Public Waters. –
I. Any seaplane or any helicopter on floats which lands on public waters shall be exempt from all laws and rules concerning the operation of boats for the purpose of landing and taking off from such public waters.
II. Any seaplane or any helicopter on floats shall exercise due caution and respect for the rights and safety of any person or boat using the public waters.

[rdant]

Originally Posted by Altonbayicefishingfool

I find it hard to believe the guy confused our road with the runway, and this is a licensed pilot??!!

Well, as you know there was no snow on the ice last year and I can tell you that the runway was very difficult to make out from the air. I've flown in many times and knew where to land, but for someone there for the first time, it would have been nearly impossible to know where the runway was. And, they don't teach ice landings in pilot school!

[This'nThat]

Originally Posted by rdant

Well, as you know there was no snow on the ice last year and I can tell you that the runway was very difficult to make out from the air. I've flown in many times and knew where to land, but for someone there for the first time, it would have been nearly impossible to know where the runway was. And, they don't teach ice landings in pilot school!

I'm not a pilot, but it seems to me any pilot would look for all the normal Airport things and then use those as a guide. What, for instance, are "normal Airport things" you might ask? Well, here are some examples taken directly from Alton Bay:

1. The automated control tower. Here it is showing wind direction:

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2. The Passenger terminal waiting area. Here are some passenger lounge examples. I'm only showing the more
luxurious ones, of course, befitting a fine airport like Alton Bay:



3. The many fine restaurants that are on the premises. This is one of the finest around:



4. And, don't forget the baggage handlers. Watch out so they don't get in the way. Skilled baggage handlers such as these are very difficult to find these days.



I hope you will find these instructions useful for your future landings at Alton Bay. One of these days I might bind these instructions together in a formal "How to" manual as part of a public service.

[NoBozo]

THE Most Common thing an airport runway has is a white..OR black.. line painted down Centerline of the runway...including numbers at each end.

NO Centerline on the ice. NB

[RLW]

Why can't we just take a drop spreader with concrete dye and line either the sides or a center line. We use to do that with remote planes and cars both on ice and fields, and it worked good and didn't damage either surfaces. That is just this ole geezers 2¢’s worth and if this is a real problem. I guess we should let some of the past pilots that have flown into Alton give us their 2¢’s.

[Legionnaire70]

Quite a few planes on the bay today...

[NoBozo]

Originally Posted by Legionnaire70

Quite a few planes on the bay today...

That's a Rare Bird. It's a Cessna Bird Dog. Military. Used in Vietnam. Quite a few of them were Mfg in Japan under license with Japanese Language markings. NB

[Legionnaire70]

Originally Posted by NoBozo

That's a Rare Bird. It's a Cessna Bird Dog. Military. Used in Vietnam. Quite a few of them were Mfg in Japan under license with Japanese Language markings. NB

I don't know if I'd fly in anything made in Japan....

[Winnisquamguy]

Originally Posted by Legionnaire70

I don't know if I'd fly in anything made in Japan....

So I suppose you don't drive anything from Japan or watch, or listen too anything that's from Japan?

[upthesaukee]

Originally Posted by RLW

Why can't we just take a drop spreader with concrete dye and line either the sides or a center line. We use to do that with remote planes and cars both on ice and fields, and it worked good and didn't damage either surfaces. That is just this ole geezers 2¢’s worth and if this is a real problem. I guess we should let some of the past pilots that have flown into Alton give us their 2¢’s.

....Anything dark on the ice draws heat, which will promote melting of the ice. This is why when you build an ice rink in your back yard, you use a white tarp, or clear, as the liner, and why you remove hockey pucks, hockey nets, etc from the rink when not in use.

Our ice runway is usually well defined by snow banks, but to use dark colored markings could very well create more problems for the planes than it would help.