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Old 02-12-2013, 01:04 PM   #1
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I can't speak for Kellerhaus specifically but I know for a fact that a lot of small independently owned businesses are still faced with tough decisions as they struggle to keep the doors open. Pay the oilman or meet payroll, pay the oilman or pay the health insurance, pay vendors on time so shipment continue, light bill and on and on. The lakes region has an even more difficult time in the off season because those bills still come in. This winter I have noticed a lot of small shops and restaurants are much cooler if not darn cold and they are also shutting off lights in seldom used rooms until a customer wants to go in. They are not being cheap and you can bet this is not the way they want to run things but most of these people have their entire lives tied up in their business and they are doing anything they can to stay afloat. If you are not comfortable patronizing a place like this that is certainly understandable and your right to walk out. Or maybe you could just buy a quart of ice cream to go and help a small business.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:31 PM   #2
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Call the health department and maybe OSHA also.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:01 PM   #3
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Call the health department and maybe OSHA also.
That kind seems like over kill and going way out of ones way to screw the owners and if osha did show up. Well the Weirs would have one more empty building for decades for us all to stare at or complain a developer turned it into a parking lot, condos, or etc
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:34 PM   #4
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That kind seems like over kill and going way out of ones way to screw the owners and if osha did show up. Well the Weirs would have one more empty building for decades for us all to stare at or complain a developer turned it into a parking lot, condos, or etc
That's right birchhaven...if Kellerhaus got shut down how would FLL be able to get for just $1.09, 1.00 plus 9% NH meals tax, on every Wednesday an ice cream cone special where you get a big two scoops of your choice about ten different flavors of their Kellerhaus homemade ice cream.
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Call the health department and maybe OSHA also.
I think we should stop in and spend money instead of kicking them when there down ! mabe they just need a little boost in sales.
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I can't speak for Kellerhaus specifically but I know for a fact that a lot of small independently owned businesses are still faced with tough decisions as they struggle to keep the doors open. Pay the oilman or meet payroll, pay the oilman or pay the health insurance, pay vendors on time so shipment continue, light bill and on and on. The lakes region has an even more difficult time in the off season because those bills still come in. This winter I have noticed a lot of small shops and restaurants are much cooler if not darn cold and they are also shutting off lights in seldom used rooms until a customer wants to go in. They are not being cheap and you can bet this is not the way they want to run things but most of these people have their entire lives tied up in their business and they are doing anything they can to stay afloat. If you are not comfortable patronizing a place like this that is certainly understandable and your right to walk out. Or maybe you could just buy a quart of ice cream to go and help a small business.
I am shocked. I thought that according to those in Washinton DC from the Pres on down that all was well and Main Street is booming once again. I guess all those folks on food stamps, disability and unemployment just don't spend their cash in restaurants and other local shops.
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:23 PM   #7
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For what its worth I stopped in at Kellerhaus today and it seemed plenty warm. More importantly I decided it was my civic duty to taste the candy and it seemed as great as ever!
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:46 PM   #8
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The Washinton Congress (group of baboons according to Merriam-Webster) wants you to believe that the only number that makes any sense today is the unemployment rate. Since the rate is lower than is was a year ago, it is smell of victory!

Since 2008, the average US salary have declined, Inflation has rise and this year our tax rate has gone up. This means the average 'disposable income' is down. Folks have less money to spend. That is why the economy is stagnant.

Also the banks are less willing to help with small business loans and mortgages. Foreclosures are still a dime a dozen. Even though the banks are ordered to help those who fell into hard times, they are very slow in processing yet quick to throw these folks out of their homes!

I could go on and on. Yes you are right, look at all the empty store fronts as you drive around. Browse the NNEREN website for forclosures. Judge for yourself how bad the situation is.
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...this year our tax rate has gone up.
What tax rate are you talking about?
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:58 AM   #10
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What tax rate are you talking about?
FICA tax went from 4.2% to 6.2% And with that tax it also hurts employers since they have to match that tax and pay Uncle Sam for our phantom SS benefits that will maybe be there when we retire.
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The FICA tax rate went from 6.2% down to 4.2% 2 years ago and back up to 6.2% for employees only. The employer rate stayed at 6.2% the whole time.
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FICA tax went from 4.2% to 6.2% And with that tax it also hurts employers since they have to match that tax and pay Uncle Sam for our phantom SS benefits that will maybe be there when we retire.
The FICA rate had previously been 6.2%; the reduction to 4.2% was a temporary measure. Anyone who was informed about the matter knew that it was scheduled to revert to the 6.2% rate at the beginning of this year.

Whether or not future SS benefits are "phantom" or not is a matter of debate, but I can tell you one thing for sure: the less money that is paid into SS (i.e. the FICA tax that employees and employers pay), the less chance there is that you'll get the benefits that you think you're entitled to. Wanting to pay less money and get the same benefits is not a sustainable financial strategy, folks.

Edited to add: this article from Forbes does a really good job of explaining it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonyn...-tax-increase/
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The FICA rate had previously been 6.2%; the reduction to 4.2% was a temporary measure. Anyone who was informed about the matter knew that it was scheduled to revert to the 6.2% rate at the beginning of this year.

Whether or not future SS benefits are "phantom" or not is a matter of debate, but I can tell you one thing for sure: the less money that is paid into SS (i.e. the FICA tax that employees and employers pay), the less chance there is that you'll get the benefits that you think you're entitled to. Wanting to pay less money and get the same benefits is not a sustainable financial strategy, folks.

Edited to add: this article from Forbes does a really good job of explaining it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonyn...-tax-increase/
Sounds like a cheerleader for higher taxes.....just a reminder,SS is not a benefit that we "think" we're entitled to.It is OUR money....contributed over a lifetime of working........this is why we don't have a political thread on the forum.
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Sounds like a cheerleader for higher taxes.....just a reminder,SS is not a benefit that we "think" we're entitled to.It is OUR money....contributed over a lifetime of working........this is why we don't have a political thread on the forum.
No, not a cheerleader for higher taxes, just explaining the facts, which so often get lost in discussions like this.

And yes, as a contributory retirement system, anyone who pays into SS is entitled to benefits. The question is, HOW MUCH? Because as the system is currently set up, on average the benefits obtained exceed the contributions made. How much more than YOU contributed over your working life are YOU entitled to once you start collecting benefits?
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My pension check is about $100 lighter this month. A friend of mine who has a pension from the public sector also notice that same thing.
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My pension check is about $100 lighter this month. A friend of mine who has a pension from the public sector also notice that same thing.
Why? What tax increased to account for the approximately $100 monthly reduction?
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My pension never changes. I worked for private industry, not the state or federal.
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Mine went up a bit this year. Thank you everybody for your continued support!
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Thumbs up Kellerhaus

Stopped today and agree with AKADO and winnipiseogee, just as warm and cheerful as always. Got my wife her annual fix of their candy.

Glad I did not buy into the 1st post. Just Sold is right on, that poster must have an ax to grind.
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For what its worth I stopped in at Kellerhaus today and it seemed plenty warm. More importantly I decided it was my civic duty to taste the candy and it seemed as great as ever!
Stopped in as well yesterday for some Valentine sweets and found it to be a warm & pleasant experience and was even helped by upbeat staff as people were coming and going. My cashier GiGi from Peru was full of smiles and even offered to gift wrap my purchase. Good Job Kellerhaus Crew !
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I am shocked. I thought that according to those in Washinton DC from the Pres on down that all was well and Main Street is booming once again. I guess all those folks on food stamps, disability and unemployment just don't spend their cash in restaurants and other local shops.
In my opinion, things are still bad. It is not anywhere as good as the DC spin doctors make it seem, certainly not here in New England.

The only time Main Street booms is when another gas line explodes.

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