The old Waldo peppers site

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

You are wrong. They did very well at that location and their reasons for moving were not for a lack of business.

Most of the "information" posted on this thread is inaccurate speculation by people with little or no knowledge of the actual facts. Great reading, but no basis for the majority of the posts.

It would serve no purpose to post the real information so at this time it will remain out of the public view but if you do not have real information you should probably be an observer rather than post your ideas as if they are factual.

How is your idle speculation different from mine? This is an internet forum and as such speculation is a large part of what is posted.

I don't know of too many restaurants that "did very well" at a location move and then be gone in a short time.

If you know anything about the restaurant business, that location is a dog (and too small).

Have a good day

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by VitaBene

How is your idle speculation different from mine? This is an internet forum and as such speculation is a large part of what is posted.

I don't know of too many restaurants that "did very well" at a location move and then be gone in a short time.

If you know anything about the restaurant business, that location is a dog (and too small).

Have a good day

I will respectfully disgree that a large part of what is posted on this site is speculation. Most people post what they know to be true and what they have real, factual knowledge of.

Please allow me to answer your question: "How is your idle speculation different from mine?"

The difference between your "idle speculation" and my post is that I have the benefit of having owned that property since 2004. I guess that information should be sufficient to explain that I know the all of the facts regarding what has happened there for the past 9 years. I am aware of the amount of business that location has done when it has been operated correctly and I am aware of the mistakes that have been made by tenants in more recent years. Your posting is idle speculation and incorrect.

Do you understand the difference between your post and mine now?

Have a good day

[Resident 2B]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

I will respectfully disgree that a large part of what is posted on this site is speculation. Most people post what they know to be true and what they have real, factual knowledge of.

Please allow me to answer your question: "How is your idle speculation different from mine?"

The difference between your "idle speculation" and my post is that I have the benefit of having owned that property since 2004. I guess that information should be sufficient to explain that I know the all of the facts regarding what has happened there for the past 9 years. I am aware of the amount of business that location has done when it has been operated correctly and I am aware of the mistakes that have been made by tenants in more recent years. Your posting is idle speculation and incorrect.

Do you understand the difference between your post and mine now?

Have a good day

TiltonBB,

As the owner of that site, I sure do wish you can get someone in there to run a business as well as Barbara and Bruce ran WaldoPeppers. Having to travel 12 miles round trip and fight the traffic in Meredith for a decent sandwhich is getting tired and time and wastes gasoline.

When they closed the shop and moved to the new location with partners, Barbara made it clear that it was not about the money alone. Folks should be able to find these posts by "Pepper" on this web site.

I do hope you find a good business for that site real soon.

Good luck!

R2B

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

I will respectfully disgree that a large part of what is posted on this site is speculation. Most people post what they know to be true and what they have real, factual knowledge of.

Please allow me to answer your question: "How is your idle speculation different from mine?"

The difference between your "idle speculation" and my post is that I have the benefit of having owned that property since 2004. I guess that information should be sufficient to explain that I know the all of the facts regarding what has happened there for the past 9 years. I am aware of the amount of business that location has done when it has been operated correctly and I am aware of the mistakes that have been made by tenants in more recent years. Your posting is idle speculation and incorrect.

Do you understand the difference between your post and mine now?

Have a good day

If it is such an awesome spot, why don't you go for it? Waldo and Pepper worked their tails off and marketed WP relentlessly here as well as other places to gain traction. Those same owners got out of the business because they were not making enough money to make a living and have benefits (hence the move to Lowes before retirement IIRC).

I know the difference between you and I- I would not have purchased that piece of real estate. When was the last time you collected rent from it?

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by VitaBene

If it is such an awesome spot, why don't you go for it? Waldo and Pepper worked their tails off and marketed WP relentlessly here as well as other places to gain traction. Those same owners got out of the business because they were not making enough money to make a living and have benefits (hence the move to Lowes before retirement IIRC).

I know the difference between you and I- I would not have purchased that piece of real estate. When was the last time you collected rent from it?

Actually, I got a check in the mail today for the RV Park on "that piece of property" It does quite well and has always had 100% occupancy. Also, I have had the restaurant leased for the last 15 months to a tenant has done substantial interior renovations and (for his own reasons) has chosen not to open yet. Bike Week that property has paid parking and also vendors that pay for sites.

I will not get into a long discussion of facts with you other than to tell you that you are again wrong. Your thougts as to what happened and why Waldo Pepper's left are wrong as well as your opinion of the profitability of the business and that property when they occupied it. You should really quit speculating, you haven't been right yet!

As to your question of why I don't run the restaurant: Since 1978 I have been in the real estate investment business, not the restaurant business. I also own the building across the street, as well as the docks on the Channel, and have multiple rental properties in Gilford as well as in Massachusetts. I am comfortable with what I know and have no interest in being in the restaurant business.

Thanks for the helpful suggestion, and have a nice day

[Belmont Resident]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Actually, I got a check in the mail today for the RV Park on "that piece of property" It does quite well and has always had 100% occupancy. Also, I have had the restaurant leased for the last 15 months to a tenant has done substantial interior renovations and (for his own reasons) has chosen not to open yet. Bike Week that property has paid parking and also vendors that pay for sites.

I will not get into a long discussion of facts with you other than to tell you that you are again wrong. Your thougts as to what happened and why Waldo Pepper's left are wrong as well as your opinion of the profitability of the business and that property when they occupied it. You should really quit speculating, you haven't been right yet!

As to your question of why I don't run the restaurant: Since 1978 I have been in the real estate investment business, not the restaurant business. I also own the building across the street, as well as the docks on the Channel, and have multiple rental properties in Gilford as well as in Massachusetts. I am comfortable with what I know and have no interest in being in the restaurant business.

Thanks for the helpful suggestion, and have a nice day

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back now.
You obviously think a lot of yourself.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by Belmont Resident

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back now.
You obviously think a lot of yourself.

The pot calling the kettle black.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by Belmont Resident

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back now.
You obviously think a lot of yourself.

I am comfortable with where I am and what business interests I have invested in. I merely responded to the repeated incorrect information posted by VitaBene, his questiong of how I do business, and his inquiries about why I do not run the restaurant business myself.

This thread had reached a point where I felt that it served no purpose to let speculation and rumors continue without injecting some facts. Sometimes facts can be a good thing!

I would hope that anyone else reading any posts on this site that had factual information that would correct misinformation posted here would do the same thing.

We all need to believe that what we read here is true, not speculation by the uninformed posted as factual information.

That is just my opinion, I am sure there are others!

[Irish mist]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

I am comfortable with where I am and what business interests I have invested in. I merely responded to the repeated incorrect information posted by VitaBene, his questiong of how I do business, and his inquiries about why I do not run the restaurant business myself.

This thread had reached a point where I felt that it served no purpose to let speculation and rumors continue without injecting some facts. Sometimes facts can be a good thing!

I would hope that anyone else reading any posts on this site that had factual information that would correct misinformation posted here would do the same thing.

We all need to believe that what we read here is true, not speculation by the uninformed posted as factual information.

That is just my opinion, I am sure there are others!

Great job dealing with this nonsense

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

I am comfortable with where I am and what business interests I have invested in. I merely responded to the repeated incorrect information posted by VitaBene, his questiong of how I do business, and his inquiries about why I do not run the restaurant business myself.

This thread had reached a point where I felt that it served no purpose to let speculation and rumors continue without injecting some facts. Sometimes facts can be a good thing!

I would hope that anyone else reading any posts on this site that had factual information that would correct misinformation posted here would do the same thing.

We all need to believe that what we read here is true, not speculation by the uninformed posted as factual information.

That is just my opinion, I am sure there are others!

Sorry TT, but you decided to quote me (5 months later) as an example of speculation on this thread while ignoring the real speculation about involvement with the Farah's.

I posted my opinion. I stand by it and the comments about the viability of that site for a restaurant. I write that as someone who enjoyed many meals at WP and who liked the owners and respected them.

I will continue to post my opinions and speculate on this forum website. Best of luck with your real estate empire. Bike Week is coming

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by ripley

I am not making any statements .I am just telling you what I read in the Newspapers I looked up.
Now ,while I am sure it is more complicated than what I have just written and that perhaps many legal wrangelings have taken place since the documents I read were first published , a few of the names might provide a clue as to why waldos sits empty 2-3 years later..I don't know the answers ,,,,only more questions that no one wants to answer ..
So i think it may sit empty for a little while longer .I think this simply gives us more questions than we had before and fewer and fewer answers...I hope what I read was incorrect

I feel that there is a difference between VitaBene's posts and the partial quote of Ripley shown above .

Ripley clearly states that his posting is opinion and that the posting leaves many questions. VitaBene's posts have been written as if they are factual, when clearly they are not.

Originally Posted by VitaBene

Sorry TT, but you decided to quote me (5 months later) as an example of speculation on this thread while ignoring the real speculation about involvement with the Farah's.

I posted my opinion. I stand by it and the comments about the viability of that site for a restaurant. I write that as someone who enjoyed many meals at WP and who liked the owners and respected them.

I will continue to post my opinions and speculate on this forum website. Best of luck with your real estate empire. Bike Week is coming

While you acknowledge that you write as an occasional diner at that restaurant you criticize the location without any knowledge of buisness volume, monthly and daily traffic counts, and the terms of any lease.

I respect your right to post your opinions but please indicate that they are your opinions, especially when they are so factually incorrect. You have no idea what the volume and profitability of that restaurant has been, I do. In business discussions with previous tenants I have had access to the books and know what that site is capable of with the right tenant serving the right product. It is equally as good a physical location as Tamarak or maybe even Sawyers and only limited by the size of the building. So, as far as your opinion about the location, you are once again wrong and I will respectfully disagree with you.

And yes, the speculation about any involvement by me with the Farah's is also incorrect. I only know what I have read about the Farah's in the newspapers and wouldn'y know them if I tripped over them. The current lessee may have had some business dealings with them in the past but that is not my concern, or any of my business.

While factually correct, these are just my opinions and I post them as such!

[VitaBene]

You want everyone who posts their opinion on this forum to preface their statements as such?

In my opinion... Don can decide what is appropriate and what is not.

[PENIVISA]

Time to get a life and enjoy the summer.

[AC2717]

i'm outta here on this thread
wow

[Pineedles]

And I think in a few more hours this thread is gonna get moved.

[phoenix]

really does it matter why Pepper left. She was a neat lady and brought in customers with her personality. We wish her well and whoever fills the former restaurant