waterski race?

tis · 07-23-2013, 07:34 AM

I hope you guys will give us a better idea next time if there is one, of the approximate time and place where we could watch it. I still don't know which side of Rattlesnake it went on and about what time. Thanks.

NHBUOY · 07-23-2013, 11:13 AM

Tis, I think DaveR's story is quite telling and is probably the reason the race is low-key and the info kept "close-to-the-vest" by the competitors. It shouldn't have to be this way, but I totally understand the reasoning. The same "type" of person(s) DR story contains.

tis · 07-23-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NHBUOY

Tis, I think DaveR's story is quite telling and is probably the reason the race is low-key and the info kept "close-to-the-vest" by the competitors. It shouldn't have to be this way, but I totally understand the reasoning. The same "type" of person(s) DR story contains.

You are probably right. Sad, isn't it?

Top-Water · 02-03-2019, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tis

I hope you guys will give us a better idea next time if there is one, of the approximate time and place where we could watch it. I still don't know which side of Rattlesnake it went on and about what time. Thanks.

There are several waterski racing topics around the forum, so I was not sure which one to post this video in. But the key sentence in the above quote is "I hope you guys will give us a better idea next time if there is one." and decided to use this one. Seems like these waterski races are cloaked in a little secrecy. If I had to guess it's probably because of the speed limit regulations. To bad if that is the case. For years when my family was involved with the races on Winnisquam, all we had to do is get the proper permit from the state and we had for lack of a better term and very simplified "the right of way" and a little help from the Marine Patrol.

Anyone know what the rules are now? or did the legislature screw this up and make it illegal with no provisions for events like this legally happening again.

fatlazyless · 02-03-2019, 10:14 AM

What a super duper video of Lake Winnipesaukee ..... you know the new, as of last year, Flightcraft marina in Weirs Beach is in the water ski biz, what with wake boats and water ski lessons ..... so's maybe they would be a friendly sponsor for a water ski race or demonstration ..... viewed from the Weirs boardwalk .... seems like a good fit?

Like ...... every Friday at 7-pm to kick off the weekend ...... and give people another reason to go to Weirs Beach.

BroadHopper · 02-03-2019, 05:59 PM

A good reason why we need to keep the event low key. Crowd control and not to p.o. certain folks on the lake.

Back in the 60's and 70's the lake was famous for the 65 mile marathons. Started in front of the Weirs dock out around Rattlesnake into Meredith Bay and back. It was pretty wild! Than one year a certain lake front owner didn't like the idea after he purchased his property and decided to row out in front of the race boats! He called the marine patrol, claimed the boats were out of control and was nearly collided. The races were there a decade before him! The publicity he created put an end to the races despite an immaculate safety record and strict rules.
Probably the same guy who was complaining about the offshore racing back in the late 90's. Boat racing has been around since 1910's!

Captain Dunleavy of NHDOS once told a reporter his staff spends more time answering calls from land owners, either a dispute with neighbors or boaters, than enforcing boating laws on the water. No wonder legislature decided to tax boat slips! Probably to add more LEO on the water!

Descant · 02-05-2019, 02:39 PM

From Broadhopper;' "No wonder legislature decided to tax boat slips! Probably to add more LEO on the water!"

Environmental Services is asking for more $$ for permit and application fees. The legislature has not passed that bill. None of this would go to the Department of Safety. Cities and Towns collect property tax on the assessed value of a dock. None of that money goes to the state.

welch-time · 02-06-2019, 01:32 AM

I thought I'd share my experience with the race. We'd heard that the race was going to happen, we'd seen the boats/skiers out practicing a few days before the event. The morning of the race (6-7am? I forget) we woke up to the sound of a big powerboat idling out front (2 engines with straight pipes). So I look out and see about 4 or 5 other spectator boats around 100' out in front. Wow, what's going on? At this point I figured out that the race course must be coming past our place. OK, I guess it's time to make the coffee and go out and watch. We were watching the race from our dock. The course brought them right past. It was fun watching. The powerboat guy has been idling all this time trying to keep his boat from drifting. Then a short time later I saw something odd. One of the residents was trolling his boat (25'-30' V hull) back and forth out across the race course seemingly just to be disruptive. This caused some of the spectators to go nuts yelling obscenities. Then another resident in his boat got in a dispute with a boat full of spectators. Maybe because of the loud powerboat idling. Who knows. Clearly some residents were upset.

Top-Water · 02-06-2019, 06:49 AM

@ welch-time

Thanks for sharing what you had experienced.

BroadHopper · 02-06-2019, 09:37 AM

Some of the Welch Island folks were huge supporters of the marathon. They had some fast boats and were officers on the club. Not going to name names but I am sure the long time residents know who they were.
In fact most of the participants came from islands! Yet they are the most vocal!
Can anyone get along?

welch-time · 02-06-2019, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Some of the Welch Island folks were huge supporters of the marathon. They had some fast boats and were officers on the club. Not going to name names but I am sure the long time residents know who they were.
In fact most of the participants came from islands! Yet they are the most vocal!
Can anyone get along?

Yeah, I know who they are, but I'm not naming names either (not my circus, and those aren't my monkeys). I should point out that this was likely an isolated incident between some spectators and a couple residents, and shouldn't be used to cast a negative light on the marathon. I think the whole thing started because of the loud idling spectator boat getting too close to houses, and it escalated from there. That's just my guess (but I did have a front row seat). I'm hoping this information finds it's way to race organizers and is helpful as P.R. for future events so everybody can continue to have fun.

Cobalt 25 · 02-06-2019, 07:16 PM

Great event and great video!

I have been the "Trail Boss" of a few dirt bike racing events that used private property with the landowners permission AND public roads. The dirt bikes in these Enduros were somewhat noisy and mostly were not well received by the general public. We also had to work with local law enforcement to make sure speed laws were respected.

I found that knocking on doors and explaining to the folks along the course that an event was taking place on a specific day did wonders to improve relations. Some residents were fairly hostile at first but warmed up considerably once we had a chance to talk. They just wanted to be part of the process.

It sounds like water ski races have been a part of the lake for a long time. In my opinion it would be nice to see them continue. Maybe the organizers have already done some advance schmoozing, but it couldn't hurt to reach out to as many island residents as possible.

Good luck with this worthwhile endeavor.

Top-Water · 02-06-2019, 07:18 PM

@ BroadHopper & welch-time, ........ Thanks again, .. each of you for sharing these little tid-bits of information.

Thanks

And within minute before/while I posted thanks Cobalt 25 for your prospective.

02-03-2019, 10:14 AM	#5
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,842 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 303 Thanked 1,033 Times in 752 Posts	What a super duper video of Lake Winnipesaukee ..... you know the new, as of last year, Flightcraft marina in Weirs Beach is in the water ski biz, what with wake boats and water ski lessons ..... so's maybe they would be a friendly sponsor for a water ski race or demonstration ..... viewed from the Weirs boardwalk .... seems like a good fit? Like ...... every Friday at 7-pm to kick off the weekend ...... and give people another reason to go to Weirs Beach. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

02-03-2019, 05:59 PM	#6
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,601 Thanks: 3,238 Thanked 1,113 Times in 799 Posts	DR comment A good reason why we need to keep the event low key. Crowd control and not to p.o. certain folks on the lake. Back in the 60's and 70's the lake was famous for the 65 mile marathons. Started in front of the Weirs dock out around Rattlesnake into Meredith Bay and back. It was pretty wild! Than one year a certain lake front owner didn't like the idea after he purchased his property and decided to row out in front of the race boats! He called the marine patrol, claimed the boats were out of control and was nearly collided. The races were there a decade before him! The publicity he created put an end to the races despite an immaculate safety record and strict rules. Probably the same guy who was complaining about the offshore racing back in the late 90's. Boat racing has been around since 1910's! Captain Dunleavy of NHDOS once told a reporter his staff spends more time answering calls from land owners, either a dispute with neighbors or boaters, than enforcing boating laws on the water. No wonder legislature decided to tax boat slips! Probably to add more LEO on the water! __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

02-05-2019, 02:39 PM	#7
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,451 Thanks: 1,373 Thanked 1,650 Times in 1,078 Posts	No tax on slips? From Broadhopper;' "No wonder legislature decided to tax boat slips! Probably to add more LEO on the water!" Environmental Services is asking for more $$ for permit and application fees. The legislature has not passed that bill. None of this would go to the Department of Safety. Cities and Towns collect property tax on the assessed value of a dock. None of that money goes to the state.

02-06-2019, 01:32 AM	#8
welch-time Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Welch Island Posts: 117 Thanks: 5 Thanked 66 Times in 31 Posts	I thought I'd share my experience with the race. We'd heard that the race was going to happen, we'd seen the boats/skiers out practicing a few days before the event. The morning of the race (6-7am? I forget) we woke up to the sound of a big powerboat idling out front (2 engines with straight pipes). So I look out and see about 4 or 5 other spectator boats around 100' out in front. Wow, what's going on? At this point I figured out that the race course must be coming past our place. OK, I guess it's time to make the coffee and go out and watch. We were watching the race from our dock. The course brought them right past. It was fun watching. The powerboat guy has been idling all this time trying to keep his boat from drifting. Then a short time later I saw something odd. One of the residents was trolling his boat (25'-30' V hull) back and forth out across the race course seemingly just to be disruptive. This caused some of the spectators to go nuts yelling obscenities. Then another resident in his boat got in a dispute with a boat full of spectators. Maybe because of the loud powerboat idling. Who knows. Clearly some residents were upset. Last edited by welch-time; 02-06-2019 at 03:38 PM.

02-06-2019, 09:37 AM	#10
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,601 Thanks: 3,238 Thanked 1,113 Times in 799 Posts	Welch Island Some of the Welch Island folks were huge supporters of the marathon. They had some fast boats and were officers on the club. Not going to name names but I am sure the long time residents know who they were. In fact most of the participants came from islands! Yet they are the most vocal! Can anyone get along? __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

07-23-2013, 07:34 AM	#1
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,812 Thanks: 759 Thanked 1,469 Times in 1,025 Posts	I hope you guys will give us a better idea next time if there is one, of the approximate time and place where we could watch it. I still don't know which side of Rattlesnake it went on and about what time. Thanks.

07-23-2013, 11:13 AM	#2
NHBUOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Loon Mtn. winters...Meredith Neck summers Posts: 398 Thanks: 288 Thanked 94 Times in 60 Posts	Tis, I think DaveR's story is quite telling and is probably the reason the race is low-key and the info kept "close-to-the-vest" by the competitors. It shouldn't have to be this way, but I totally understand the reasoning. The same "type" of person(s) DR story contains.

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Cobalt 25 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 228 Thanks: 228 Thanked 36 Times in 20 Posts	Great event and great video! I have been the "Trail Boss" of a few dirt bike racing events that used private property with the landowners permission AND public roads. The dirt bikes in these Enduros were somewhat noisy and mostly were not well received by the general public. We also had to work with local law enforcement to make sure speed laws were respected. I found that knocking on doors and explaining to the folks along the course that an event was taking place on a specific day did wonders to improve relations. Some residents were fairly hostile at first but warmed up considerably once we had a chance to talk. They just wanted to be part of the process. It sounds like water ski races have been a part of the lake for a long time. In my opinion it would be nice to see them continue. Maybe the organizers have already done some advance schmoozing, but it couldn't hurt to reach out to as many island residents as possible. Good luck with this worthwhile endeavor.

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02-06-2019, 07:18 PM	#13
Top-Water Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 674 Thanks: 1,535 Thanked 714 Times in 431 Posts	@ BroadHopper & welch-time, ........ Thanks again, .. each of you for sharing these little tid-bits of information. Thanks And within minute before/while I posted thanks Cobalt 25 for your prospective.