Sailing on Foils? - America's Cup Thread

salty dog · 08-04-2013, 02:34 PM

Wondered if any of you fellow forum members have seen this amazing video of the Vestas Sailrocket 2 breaking the world speed record in Nambia last November. I grew up sailing and I love watching things go fast and it is truly amazing to see how fast this sailboat can move! (approx 75 mph!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pipGWQmerEQ

garysanfran · 08-04-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by salty dog

Wondered if any of you fellow forum members have seen this amazing video of the Vestas Sailrocket 2 breaking the world speed record in Nambia last November. I grew up sailing and I love watching things go fast and it is truly amazing to see how fast this sailboat can move! (approx 75 mph!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pipGWQmerEQ

Thanks for sharing. I didn't think this was possible.

NoBozo · 08-04-2013, 06:57 PM

That video has been around for awhile. It is spectacular. The boat is in the "lee" of the land so has No Seas to contend with...relative to the wind they benefit from.

NB

ryecatsailor · 08-05-2013, 08:06 AM

My little cat performs pretty well, class F16 rules allow for 6 degrees of cant to provide some lift to the leeward hull.

http://youtu.be/ZkMhGt39kpA

ryecatsailor · 08-05-2013, 08:09 AM

http://youtu.be/mSJZGHMDwaU

salty dog · 08-05-2013, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ryecatsailor

My little cat performs pretty well, class F16 rules allow for 6 degrees of cant to provide some lift to the leeward hull.

http://youtu.be/ZkMhGt39kpA

Great action cam video! She really moves out with a good wind. We'll have to look for you when we're up to the lake next time.

ApS · 08-14-2013, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

That video has been around for awhile. It is spectacular. The boat is in the "lee" of the land so has No Seas to contend with...relative to the wind they benefit from.

NB

So you probably remember this earlier run, competing with seagulls for "getting air":

Similar "no seas" locations in Australia provided earlier attempts in a related design. As I recall, a record was set at over one mile per minute—but with the sponsor being "Yellow Pages" at the time:

In 1993—with strong winds—it might have been possible to see a terrified skipper in his Tornado:

salty dog · 08-14-2013, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ApS

So you probably remember this earlier run, competing with seagulls for "getting air":

Similar "no seas" locations in Australia provided earlier attempts in a related design. As I recall, a record was set at over one mile per minute—but with the sponsor being "Yellow Pages" at the time:

In 1993—with strong winds—it might have been possible to see a terrified skipper in his Tornado:

I missed this one when checking out the sailrocket vids. It's like watching a hydroplane flip.

ApS · 08-21-2013, 04:00 AM

Last weekend, Oracle did some sailing. I thought I'd seen a foil on a rudder, and there's a good shot of a foil on one of its "exposed" rudders.

A friend sent this latest, and suggested the following:

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Great video, watch full screen, highest HD setting.

http://oracle-team-usa.americascup.com/news/5313

BTW: In an attempt to save about $150, I purchased a catamaran that arrived complete—except for having only one rudder. It sailed pretty well, and never got around to installing the second rudder.

NoBozo · 08-24-2013, 08:18 PM

One Hour: http://www.youtube.com/americascup

garysanfran · 08-24-2013, 09:45 PM

Today, it was high winds and strong tides. Emirates is one fast boat. Today they set a record of something in the vicinity of 55mph! The Oracle boat(s) lurk outside the course watching every move.

NoBozo · 08-25-2013, 07:29 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYZci2jiN6s NB

NoBozo · 08-27-2013, 11:27 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h2o3--uOA8 NB

NoBozo · 09-08-2013, 11:33 AM

Americas Cup Race #1 and 2:

NB

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-...-americas-cup/

SIKSUKR · 09-09-2013, 10:36 AM

OK NB. I watched both races Saturday and saw NZ win pretty easy at the end. Great racing though. I missed the first race on Sunday to watch the Pats but did catch the second race. Nice to see the US get one. Here's the question..why did the US get penalized 2 points in this race series for modifying 45' boats that had nothing to do with these boats?

DBreskin · 09-09-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Here's the question..why did the US get penalized 2 points in this race series for modifying 45' boats that had nothing to do with these boats?

It's not about the boats, it's about the races. The America's Cup is a competition consisting of a series of races including both the 45s and the 72s.

NoBozo · 09-09-2013, 07:13 PM

NZ won Race # 3 and Oracle won Race # 4. Oracle has to "GIVE UP" two wins right off the bat because of "Cheating" last year in the AC45s. I can't explain that. SO the score is NZ 3..Oracle 0.

This news is NO Where in the mainstream media. I had to Google "Americas Cup" to find it.

NB

NoBozo · 09-10-2013, 03:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5g3g...4WVQ7tyGgjTmqA

EDIT: At about 23 minutes into the video is an Excellent explanation on How the foils work.

NB

NoBozo · 09-11-2013, 03:47 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSto...naway-20217263

ApS · 09-14-2013, 05:24 AM

From the old fashioned cut of the sails, I'd guess this foil-sailing design dates from the 1950s—perhaps pre-war.

Vietnam "Police-Action"-era USS Flagstaff:

_________________________

A neighbor-renter brought his Farrier trimaran—below.

I'd posted earlier of a "ride" in one. My "ride" achieved 17-knots with 13 aboard—an International crew, counting at least three languages—I was getting beat-up and soaked, 'cuz the rest of the crew were in the galley, getting lunch! How beat-up, you ask? Though a brand-new Farrier-29, heavy water-action still managed to drive my right knee right through the trampoline!

With his Winter Harbor McMansion-rental running ~$5000/week, he surely was disappointed that winds were gentle during his stay. But at least he didn't have to motor around—and miss all the natural attributes that Lake Winnipesaukee has to offer.

08-05-2013, 08:06 AM	#4
ryecatsailor Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 4 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Sailing on Foils, canted 6 degrees My little cat performs pretty well, class F16 rules allow for 6 degrees of cant to provide some lift to the leeward hull. http://youtu.be/ZkMhGt39kpA Attached Images

08-05-2013, 08:09 AM	#5
ryecatsailor Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 4 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Spin http://youtu.be/mSJZGHMDwaU

08-24-2013, 08:18 PM	#10
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Americas Cup Results Yesterday One Hour: http://www.youtube.com/americascup

08-24-2013, 09:45 PM	#11
garysanfran Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Francisco/Meredith Posts: 1,581 Thanks: 680 Thanked 684 Times in 350 Posts	Emirates vs. Oracle? One race to go... Today, it was high winds and strong tides. Emirates is one fast boat. Today they set a record of something in the vicinity of 55mph! The Oracle boat(s) lurk outside the course watching every move. __________________ Gary ~~~~_/) ~~~ ~~~~~~~~

08-25-2013, 07:29 PM	#12
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Race 7 (Saturday) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYZci2jiN6s NB

08-04-2013, 02:34 PM	#1
salty dog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Beverly Cove, Ma Posts: 359 Thanks: 288 Thanked 148 Times in 82 Posts	World speed record Wondered if any of you fellow forum members have seen this amazing video of the Vestas Sailrocket 2 breaking the world speed record in Nambia last November. I grew up sailing and I love watching things go fast and it is truly amazing to see how fast this sailboat can move! (approx 75 mph!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pipGWQmerEQ __________________ I'd rather be relax'n at Winnipesaukee

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08-04-2013, 06:57 PM	#3
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	That video has been around for awhile. It is spectacular. The boat is in the "lee" of the land so has No Seas to contend with...relative to the wind they benefit from. NB

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08-27-2013, 11:27 AM	#13
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Race 8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h2o3--uOA8 NB

09-08-2013, 11:33 AM	#14
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Oops...... Americas Cup Race #1 and 2: NB http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-...-americas-cup/

09-09-2013, 10:36 AM	#15
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	OK NB. I watched both races Saturday and saw NZ win pretty easy at the end. Great racing though. I missed the first race on Sunday to watch the Pats but did catch the second race. Nice to see the US get one. Here's the question..why did the US get penalized 2 points in this race series for modifying 45' boats that had nothing to do with these boats? __________________ SIKSUKR

09-09-2013, 07:13 PM	#17
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Race 3 & 4 NZ won Race # 3 and Oracle won Race # 4. Oracle has to "GIVE UP" two wins right off the bat because of "Cheating" last year in the AC45s. I can't explain that. SO the score is NZ 3..Oracle 0. This news is NO Where in the mainstream media. I had to Google "Americas Cup" to find it. NB

09-10-2013, 03:57 PM	#18
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Highlights Race 3 & 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5g3g...4WVQ7tyGgjTmqA EDIT: At about 23 minutes into the video is an Excellent explanation on How the foils work. NB

09-11-2013, 03:47 PM	#19
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Shakeup Aboard Oracle..?? http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSto...naway-20217263

09-14-2013, 05:24 AM	#20
ApS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florida (Sebring & Keys), Wolfeboro Posts: 5,982 Thanks: 2,252 Thanked 783 Times in 559 Posts	A Little "Foil" History... From the old fashioned cut of the sails, I'd guess this foil-sailing design dates from the 1950s—perhaps pre-war. Vietnam "Police-Action"-era USS Flagstaff: _________________________ A neighbor-renter brought his Farrier trimaran—below. I'd posted earlier of a "ride" in one. My "ride" achieved 17-knots with 13 aboard—an International crew, counting at least three languages—I was getting beat-up and soaked, 'cuz the rest of the crew were in the galley, getting lunch! How beat-up, you ask? Though a brand-new Farrier-29, heavy water-action still managed to drive my right knee right through the trampoline! With his Winter Harbor McMansion-rental running ~$5000/week, he surely was disappointed that winds were gentle during his stay. But at least he didn't have to motor around—and miss all the natural attributes that Lake Winnipesaukee has to offer. Attached Images