Is it Just me ?

ishoot308 · 09-05-2013, 03:27 PM

Didn't mean to make you laugh, just answering your question...what I meant by "not always", is a 38' Rinker or other large cruiser probably would have an issue during draw down in that area. We have had pretty high water most of the summer that is very forgiving, it's certainly not always that way...

Dan

Happy Gourmand · 09-05-2013, 04:28 PM

I have also seen more boats go through that area this year than in any other time. Somebody in my association says there is a "safe passage" between 2 of the 3 black buoys. Do they know something we don't? I wonder if Bizer or the MP can chime in and clarify.

sunsationdave · 09-05-2013, 05:21 PM

ive been going on the stonedam side of eagle for 10 years

all times of the year low /high water all my boats twin sunsation
twin formula now single chaparrel no problems their is a a clear path
every one always watches me go through thier
the first black marker coming back to the weirs before you should turn right
was moved a couple years ago it is way over to the left before u turned right now it is on thre right i go straight
i even called bizer to tell them their is a good clear path
when im coming from the weirs i head to the first black marker and go straight towards the next black marker they bought use to be on my right
now one is on the rigth and the other on the left head directyl for the red one
where you would normayl turn if you whent the proper way

i have allot of friends doing it

my idea was when they put the no wake zone they should of made each side of eagle island one way in/out it would of taken a few years with big one way bouies but would be allot safer

anyways that is my new coures to take do what i did swim around their
if i hit some thing you will all know

its up to anyone to make that decision
ive seen very big criusers go througt their slow bow way up

Bear Island South · 09-05-2013, 09:47 PM

"big one way bouies"...now that is laughable

Phantom · 09-06-2013, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sunsationdave

the first black marker coming back to the weirs before you should turn right
was moved a couple years ago it is way over to the left before u turned right now it is on thre right i go straight

when im coming from the weirs i head to the first black marker and go straight towards the next black marker they bought use to be on my right
now one is on the rigth and the other on the left head directyl for the red one
where you would normayl turn if you whent the proper way

All I can say is WOW !

You keep one Black top to your right and the next to your left without changing heading !!!

Good LUCK !!

SIKSUKR · 09-06-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom

All I can say is WOW !

You keep one Black top to your right and the next to your left without changing heading !!!

Good LUCK !!

From my experience floating around there on my PWC,The course he is refering to is clear but does get shallower than the 6ft used as a navagation avoidance area.Its a small area and is easier to just show the whole area to avoid.I would however stay south of the red spar by second black.

BroadHopper · 09-06-2013, 02:19 PM

I always thought my mind was playing tricks on me or the bouys on the lake are moved. I'm glad you noticed the black and white was moved. I never had a problem there. I did have a problem with a red and white between Governors and the Witches. I bent a prop shaft on the west side. And someone else wrote the same on the forum. I called the marine patrol and I don't think it was moved back. I stay way to the west since the mishap last year.

Bizer · 09-06-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Phantom Gourmand

I have also seen more boats go through that area this year than in any other time. Somebody in my association says there is a "safe passage" between 2 of the 3 black buoys. Do they know something we don't? I wonder if Bizer or the MP can chime in and clarify.

Discretion is the better part of valor. Why tempt fate.

According to my notes, there is one rock about 18" below the surface in this area near the red/white buoy. There are 2 rocks about 24"-30" below the surface. There are several rocks in the 36"-48" range. Keep in mind that (A) those measurements are based on a lake level that is about 8" below the current reading and (B) I might have missed something. So, if your draft is less than three feet (and most boats are), you have, today, about a 99.8% chance of sailing through without incident. I, myself, never go through this area unless the prop is raised, I'm wearing polarized sun glasses (to see the rocks), and going less than 3 mph.

Happy Gourmand · 09-08-2013, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bizer

Discretion is the better part of valor. Why tempt fate.

According to my notes, there is one rock about 18" below the surface in this area near the red/white buoy. There are 2 rocks about 24"-30" below the surface. There are several rocks in the 36"-48" range. Keep in mind that (A) those measurements are based on a lake level that is about 8" below the current reading and (B) I might have missed something. So, if your draft is less than three feet (and most boats are), you have, today, about a 99.8% chance of sailing through without incident. I, myself, never go through this area unless the prop is raised, I'm wearing polarized sun glasses (to see the rocks), and going less than 3 mph.

I will continue to make the S turn through this area. And I'll continue to cringe when I see other boats tempt fate. What's the hurry?

Phantom · 09-08-2013, 08:17 AM

Ditto, to what he said !

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BroadHopper · 09-08-2013, 09:10 AM

So many boaters have passed on the wrong side of the black and white in front of Irwin Marine, someone painted two one gallon jugs with fluorescent orange and anchor them between the buoy and shore.

Reminds me of Webster lake in Mass where they mark their 'sunken islands'.

NHBUOY · 09-08-2013, 11:34 AM

Hey BH, could you SPELL that lake in Webster, Mass.?.

Extra points if you can pronounce it.

chipj29 · 09-08-2013, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NHBUOY

Hey BH, could you SPELL that lake in Webster, Mass.?.

Extra points if you can pronounce it.

I can't spell it without looking at my souvenier can coozie. But it is pronounced Lake Chargogagoggmanchagoggagoggchabungugoggamogg

RailroadJoe · 09-08-2013, 04:48 PM

You fish on your side and I will fish on mine, and nobody fish in the middle.

NHBUOY · 09-08-2013, 09:49 PM

Is that the "true" translation, RJ.?. I have heard that phrase before, just not sure of context.

and not to jump the shark, yes.

BroadHopper · 09-08-2013, 10:07 PM

Is this a one upmanship by Massachusetts because we have Lake Winni?

RailroadJoe · 09-09-2013, 06:40 AM

NHBUOY The translation is about as accurate as I remember, maybe a word or two wrong. I learned that when I lived in Southbridge, MA, close to the lake. And it does not compare to Winni in anyway.

Orion · 09-09-2013, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RailroadJoe

NHBUOY The translation is about as accurate as I remember, maybe a word or two wrong. I learned that when I lived in Southbridge, MA, close to the lake. And it does not compare to Winni in anyway.

I can attest to that! I boated on Webster Lake for two weekends and called it quits. And.....NOTHING compares to Winni!

NHBUOY · 09-09-2013, 09:47 AM

My friends and I used to test boats on that little "moat".

I have had the opportunity to run some BIIG numbers there in the then new 22 Velocity's (singles & twins

) and a couple incredibly fast Actions.

It always reminded me of a big moat with the island in the middle.

I remember a water-front Bar/Restaurant we would visit too. Granny's.?

BroadHopper · 09-09-2013, 11:10 AM

That waterfront bar/grill I believe is a clubhouse for one of the golf courses? They serve pretty strong drinks!

I think the whole lake is pretty shallow. Every time I tried to quickly plane a deep vee I would be hitting the mud! I ask for a map at a local what looks like a marina, and he drew out the lake and the hazards on a piece of paper!

Even the public ramp was scary. I was so afraid of getting stuck in the sand/mud.

I was up there during one of the Country Western weekends at the Indian Ranch. The ranch owners told me to bring my boat, as the lake is pretty cool! Well they didn't have much of a dock, I pretty much had to beach the boat to use the plank! LOL!

Nevertheless, it was an unforgettable weekend. The young gals along the shore will flash just to get a boat ride!

LIforrelaxin · 09-09-2013, 11:27 AM

I have witnessed a disregard for proper navigation all over the lake the past two years...

Sometimes it is people with large jet drive boats.. other times it is people with I/O...

I have even been told that I am on the wrong side of a marker once or twice...

of course one of those times I shook my head and pointed out to the guy all the sand he was kicking up as went across the sand bar he was over... he had a oh my god look on his face.

I believe the biggest issue is that people are using the lake, and think they know it all because the past a test which gave them a certificate to boat... because of that certificate, and thinking they know what side of markers to be on they don't pay attention to their maps...

09-05-2013, 03:27 PM	#1
ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,341 Thanks: 2,412 Thanked 5,336 Times in 2,085 Posts	Didn't mean to make you laugh, just answering your question...what I meant by "not always", is a 38' Rinker or other large cruiser probably would have an issue during draw down in that area. We have had pretty high water most of the summer that is very forgiving, it's certainly not always that way... Dan __________________ It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!

09-06-2013, 02:19 PM	#7
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,601 Thanks: 3,237 Thanked 1,113 Times in 799 Posts	Bouy positions I always thought my mind was playing tricks on me or the bouys on the lake are moved. I'm glad you noticed the black and white was moved. I never had a problem there. I did have a problem with a red and white between Governors and the Witches. I bent a prop shaft on the west side. And someone else wrote the same on the forum. I called the marine patrol and I don't think it was moved back. I stay way to the west since the mishap last year. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

09-08-2013, 08:17 AM	#10
Phantom Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin, Ma / Gilford Posts: 1,934 Thanks: 450 Thanked 605 Times in 341 Posts	Ditto, to what he said ! . __________________ *A bad day on the Big Lake (although I've never had one) - Still beats a day at the office!!*

09-08-2013, 09:10 AM	#11
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,601 Thanks: 3,237 Thanked 1,113 Times in 799 Posts	irwin Marine So many boaters have passed on the wrong side of the black and white in front of Irwin Marine, someone painted two one gallon jugs with fluorescent orange and anchor them between the buoy and shore. Reminds me of Webster lake in Mass where they mark their 'sunken islands'. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

09-08-2013, 10:07 PM	#16
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,601 Thanks: 3,237 Thanked 1,113 Times in 799 Posts	Lol! Is this a one upmanship by Massachusetts because we have Lake Winni? __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

09-05-2013, 04:28 PM	#2
Happy Gourmand Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ruskin FL Posts: 1,027 Thanks: 188 Thanked 322 Times in 179 Posts	I have also seen more boats go through that area this year than in any other time. Somebody in my association says there is a "safe passage" between 2 of the 3 black buoys. Do they know something we don't? I wonder if Bizer or the MP can chime in and clarify.

09-05-2013, 05:21 PM	#3
sunsationdave Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	ive been going on the stonedam side of eagle for 10 years all times of the year low /high water all my boats twin sunsation twin formula now single chaparrel no problems their is a a clear path every one always watches me go through thier the first black marker coming back to the weirs before you should turn right was moved a couple years ago it is way over to the left before u turned right now it is on thre right i go straight i even called bizer to tell them their is a good clear path when im coming from the weirs i head to the first black marker and go straight towards the next black marker they bought use to be on my right now one is on the rigth and the other on the left head directyl for the red one where you would normayl turn if you whent the proper way i have allot of friends doing it my idea was when they put the no wake zone they should of made each side of eagle island one way in/out it would of taken a few years with big one way bouies but would be allot safer anyways that is my new coures to take do what i did swim around their if i hit some thing you will all know its up to anyone to make that decision ive seen very big criusers go througt their slow bow way up

09-05-2013, 09:47 PM	#4
Bear Island South Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Southboro, MA Posts: 579 Thanks: 75 Thanked 384 Times in 170 Posts	"big one way bouies"...now that is laughable

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NHBUOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Loon Mtn. winters...Meredith Neck summers Posts: 398 Thanks: 288 Thanked 94 Times in 60 Posts	Hey BH, could you SPELL that lake in Webster, Mass.?. Extra points if you can pronounce it.

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09-08-2013, 04:48 PM	#14
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	You fish on your side and I will fish on mine, and nobody fish in the middle.

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NHBUOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Loon Mtn. winters...Meredith Neck summers Posts: 398 Thanks: 288 Thanked 94 Times in 60 Posts	Is that the "true" translation, RJ.?. I have heard that phrase before, just not sure of context. and not to jump the shark, yes.

09-09-2013, 06:40 AM	#17
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	NHBUOY The translation is about as accurate as I remember, maybe a word or two wrong. I learned that when I lived in Southbridge, MA, close to the lake. And it does not compare to Winni in anyway.

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09-09-2013, 09:47 AM	#19
NHBUOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Loon Mtn. winters...Meredith Neck summers Posts: 398 Thanks: 288 Thanked 94 Times in 60 Posts	My friends and I used to test boats on that little "moat". I have had the opportunity to run some BIIG numbers there in the then new 22 Velocity's (singles & twins) and a couple incredibly fast Actions. It always reminded me of a big moat with the island in the middle. I remember a water-front Bar/Restaurant we would visit too. Granny's.?

09-09-2013, 11:10 AM	#20
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,601 Thanks: 3,237 Thanked 1,113 Times in 799 Posts	Webster Lake. That waterfront bar/grill I believe is a clubhouse for one of the golf courses? They serve pretty strong drinks! I think the whole lake is pretty shallow. Every time I tried to quickly plane a deep vee I would be hitting the mud! I ask for a map at a local what looks like a marina, and he drew out the lake and the hazards on a piece of paper! Even the public ramp was scary. I was so afraid of getting stuck in the sand/mud. I was up there during one of the Country Western weekends at the Indian Ranch. The ranch owners told me to bring my boat, as the lake is pretty cool! Well they didn't have much of a dock, I pretty much had to beach the boat to use the plank! LOL! Nevertheless, it was an unforgettable weekend. The young gals along the shore will flash just to get a boat ride! __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

09-09-2013, 11:27 AM	#21
LIforrelaxin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas, Lake Ray Hubbard and NH, Long Island Winnipesaukee Posts: 2,896 Thanks: 1,043 Thanked 897 Times in 529 Posts	I have witnessed a disregard for proper navigation all over the lake the past two years... Sometimes it is people with large jet drive boats.. other times it is people with I/O... I have even been told that I am on the wrong side of a marker once or twice... of course one of those times I shook my head and pointed out to the guy all the sand he was kicking up as went across the sand bar he was over... he had a oh my god look on his face. I believe the biggest issue is that people are using the lake, and think they know it all because the past a test which gave them a certificate to boat... because of that certificate, and thinking they know what side of markers to be on they don't pay attention to their maps... __________________ Life is about how much time you can spend relaxing... I do it on an island that isn't really an island.....

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