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Old 02-24-2014, 06:36 PM   #1
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UMMMMMM.... I am in this area all the time..... there was / is no missing bouy that I am aware of in this area....... There are in fact 3 black, and white spars in this area, which I am sure where mostly placed to keep people off of Sandy Island....

There is one, that is often hard to see.....
I think you are thinking about the east side of Sandy Island. The removed buoy is on the north side of Sandy about 350m east of light #9. It was the only black-and-white buoy between light #77 and light #9.

Of the three black-and-white buoys on the east side of Sandy Island, the northernmost buoy marks a rock that is three feet below the surface and was 10m west-southwest of the buoy when last surveyed in 2011.

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Old 02-24-2014, 06:58 PM   #2
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I wonder if they will remove the buoy at the southern point of Pine Island that keeps mysteriously moving itself away from shore. The Mount could pass inside that buoy without danger.
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Old 02-25-2014, 09:47 AM   #3
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First, thanks for the information!

But sorry, I have to ask:

Is that a penguin in the center of that picture? Or is it a lighted marker with solar panels on it?
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First, thanks for the information!

But sorry, I have to ask:

Is that a penguin in the center of that picture? Or is it a lighted marker with solar panels on it?
Lol. The tin man in a wet suit???
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:10 PM   #5
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The penguins are considered black top spars and should be navigated as such.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:43 PM   #6
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... Is that a penguin in the center of that picture? Or is it a lighted marker with solar panels on it?
It's a man standing on the subject rock in a wetsuit with his arms outstretched to keep his balance.  This rock was marked until 2000.  My hunch is that the buoy was destroyed one winter and the person who came up to replace it put it in the wrong position.

Also, I originally forgot to mention in my original post:
  • The lone buoy off Ellacoya State Park has been eliminated.  On Bizer's first edition (1996), there were five buoys off Ellacoya State Park.  From 1997 to 2005, there were four buoys.  From 2006 to 2013, there has been one buoy.  These buoys had no navigational significance.  Their purpose was to keep boaters away from the park.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:59 PM   #7
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Before 1996, to the right if the main beach was a popular rafting spot much like Braun Bay. When the state bought the property and add to the park, the buoys were placed to prevent rafting. For a long time boats were not allowed on the beach. I notice lately a number of pontoon boats beached to the furthest right looking toward land. Have there been a changed in policy?
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It's a man standing on the subject rock in a wetsuit with his arms outstretched to keep his balance.  This rock was marked until 2000.  My hunch is that the buoy was destroyed one winter and the person who came up to replace it put it in the wrong position.
Thanks! I can see how a man in a wetsuit would look like a penguin!

It's good to know that NH Marine Patrol hasn't contracted the dreaded PC disease yet, so we still have a Nipple Rock on the lake!

Does anyone know how often the MP checks the markers after ice out? Or are they not checked unless someone reports them?
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Old 02-25-2014, 01:48 PM   #9
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I wonder if they will remove the buoy at the southern point of Pine Island that keeps mysteriously moving itself away from shore. The Mount could pass inside that buoy without danger.
that red spar has been moved so far away from shore that it has become meaningless/ignored, and actually more of a hazard to navigation (especially at night).

Question for Bizer - in your surveys do you track the placement and/or migration of buoys over time?

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I think you are thinking about the east side of Sandy Island. The removed buoy is on the north side of Sandy about 350m east of light #9. It was the only black-and-white buoy between light #77 and light #9.

Of the three black-and-white buoys on the east side of Sandy Island, the northernmost buoy marks a rock that is three feet below the surface and was 10m west-southwest of the buoy when last surveyed in 2011.
Yep just pulled out the trusty Bizer Map, and now see the Marker you are referring to.... Forgot all about that one, I believe it has been MIA in the past as well as right now.....In fact as I think about it, it probably been missing more years then it has ever been there... But given its location, it probably doesn't even become a consideration for most boaters going up through the cut.
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:33 PM   #11
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My husband - who's been staff/volunteer at camp for 50 years, told me that the marker on the north side has been missing for as much as 20 years - based on the age of his kids (how his memory works....) it could be more.

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Old 02-26-2014, 10:31 AM   #12
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It's great to know that the two copies of the new 2014 Duncan Press navigation chart that I just ordered are already out of date (and they haven't even arrived yet)!
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How do you know they are out of date? Perhaps they also updated their charts with this information, did you email to ask them?
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How do you know they are out of date? Perhaps they also updated their charts with this information, did you email to ask them?
No, I've got to admit that I didn't ..... it's simpler and more fun just to whine about it!
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Old 02-26-2014, 06:19 PM   #15
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And they are not showing pictures of Penquins standing on rocks!
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