Bahre property for sale?

[SIKSUKR]

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[BroadHopper]

Actually there is an international market for such property. Don't be surprise a Russian billionaire move in anytime soon.

[Chaselady]

Ugly house. Not a lake house at all. Maybe the trees will get bigger and hide it.

[BroadHopper]

I can say the same for these style homes. I truly enjoyed the old Victorian Homes and the 'On Golden Pond' type structures.

[jmen24]

Originally Posted by Chaselady

Ugly house. Not a lake house at all. Maybe the trees will get bigger and hide it.

While it may not be your "style" or "taste", that is far from an ugly property. From an Architectural standpoint, that property is a throwback to the estate era of lakeside or "retreat" living.

We have a few properties like that over here on Sunapee and having the opportunity to have access to view the details that make these properties grand, is a treat I often get quite excited about.

While it is not modest by any stretch of the imagination, this estate very tasteful in its appointments.

It is a showcase of wealth, not a poor attempt to stab at the image of wealth.

[Chaselady]

Originally Posted by jmen24

While it may not be your "style" or "taste", that is far from an ugly property. From an Architectural standpoint, that property is a throwback to the estate era of lakeside or "retreat" living.

We have a few properties like that over here on Sunapee and having the opportunity to have access to view the details that make these properties grand, is a treat I often get quite excited about.

While it is not modest by any stretch of the imagination, this estate very tasteful in its appointments.

It is a showcase of wealth, not a poor attempt to stab at the image of wealth.

Well, maybe "ugly" isn't appropriate. How about ostentatious?!

[Lakeboater]

Seems like the town of Alton would want to take a look at the current assessment for this property. Currently a combined valuation of just under $19 million but it has an asking price of $49 million. I realize asking price doesn't equal the true valuation so maybe if and when it sells a better valuation can be given.

[Rusty]

Remember when Bahre wanted to build a 52,000-square-foot automobile museum/entertainment center next to his mansion.

Then along came a man by the name of Ron Bettencourt who is a 30+ year-Barndoor Island resident who led the neighbors charge against Bahre.

At one of the first ZBA hearings, Bettencourt referred to Bahre's lakeside estate as an "attractive nuisance."

I guess money didn't buy Bahre anything at that time because he decided not to build the museum due to Bettencourt's and the Alton selectmen objection.

I think that's how it went anyway.

[upthesaukee]

Mr. Bahre did not build his garage because he was unable to get the approvals needed from the town to build it.

As a result, his car collection has remained in Oxford ME, and that community gets the benefit of Founder's Day celebration, where his collection is opened up to public viewing, with the proceeds going to the local Library. He was willing to do the same thing here in Alton to benefit a mutually agreed upon charity or non-profit organization or facility.

We do have Hannaford's...

[secondcurve]

Originally Posted by upthesaukee

Mr. Bahre did not build his garage because he was unable to get the approvals needed from the town to build it.

As a result, his car collection has remained in Oxford ME, and that community gets the benefit of Founder's Day celebration, where his collection is opened up to public viewing, with the proceeds going to the local Library. He was willing to do the same thing here in Alton to benefit a mutually agreed upon charity or non-profit organization or facility.

We do have Hannaford's...

Gee I wonder how many more nickles he would have given the town if they let him cut down every last tree on the property and build a race track? If I want to see his car collection I'll take a ride to Maine. If a community is willing to be bought off at least make sure the bribe is worthwhile. As alluded to above, I don't think it is the "wealthy" who are the problem. The problem is when people like Bahre collide with shortsighted politicians, voters, etc. Thankfully, Bettencourt led a revolt to stop the total destruction of the area.

Finally, Upthesaukee how many 52,000 square foot "garages" have you been in?

[gtagrip]

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

I might consider it if it comes furnished!

[Alton Bay]

I will be forever grateful for the Bahres bringing Hannaford to Alton.

[ishoot308]

There's no denying that this is a stunning home, beautifully laid out on a gorgeous piece of property! The inside is very, very, tastefully decorated as well. I wonder if the furniture goes with it?...

It will certainly take a very wealthy person to buy this home but he / she will end up with the most beautiful estate on the lake.

I'll be curious to see what it finally sells for...If I had to guess, probably the mid to high thirties.

Dan

[hilltopper]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

I'll be curious to see what it finally sells for...If I had to guess, probably the mid to high thirties.

Dan

I'm curious also. According the the Laconia Daily Sun it is being sold as one peice of property or two pieces of property. The smaller piece of property is being offered for $24 million and is assessed at $7,518,200. The larger piece of property is being offered for $25 million and is assessed at $11,462,300. That's quite a difference but could be common for these types of properties.

[Coolbreeze]

This explains why one never seems to see anyone on the dock by the lake, it would take 2 days to get there!
Incredible mansion, but not my style.

[FLAG!]

Lake Winnipesaukee has been destroyed by the one-upsmanship of the wealthy since the 1980's. I remember being blown away by the Black & Decker estate back around 1985? Since then the peaceful shoreline of traditional cottages nestled in the trees has been developed into shameless displays of wealth. So many of which are put up to be shown off for a year or two before a divorce or simple change of mind results in the property being sold off to the highest bidder. It's amazing to see how those with money to grease can get away with wetland abuse and zoning violations. Our own neighbor cleared acres of trees, put up a monstrous home, filled wetland and replaced an old 20 x 20 beach house with a 2 story guest house/boat house. For the record, it was understood he would only be allowed to rebuild where the beach house stood with a building with no larger a footprint. Within three years the property was sold and sold twice since then. Meanwhile, we have an old family property which many of us share having opportunity for 1 week in the summer and some random weekends the rest of the year(which we are grateful for) because zoning wont allow us to put another residence on our lot. We have over 20 acres of woodland, none of it wet, on a long private driveway shared by others but because the property isn't wide enough on Main Street we cannot build another residence. It sickens me what money can buy if you have an endless supply of it to grease the right people.

Oh by the way, we pay our taxes without complaint.

And how often do you see the mansion owners actually out enjoying the lake?

Sorry. I'll get off my soapbox. Had to vent. I feel better now.

[secondcurve]

Originally Posted by FLAG!

Lake Winnipesaukee has been destroyed by the one-upsmanship of the wealthy since the 1980's. I remember being blown away by the Black & Decker estate back around 1985? Since then the peaceful shoreline of traditional cottages nestled in the trees has been developed into shameless displays of wealth. So many of which are put up to be shown off for a year or two before a divorce or simple change of mind results in the property being sold off to the highest bidder. It's amazing to see how those with money to grease can get away with wetland abuse and zoning violations. Our own neighbor cleared acres of trees, put up a monstrous home, filled wetland and replaced an old 20 x 20 beach house with a 2 story guest house/boat house. For the record, it was understood he would only be allowed to rebuild where the beach house stood with a building with no larger a footprint. Within three years the property was sold and sold twice since then. Meanwhile, we have an old family property which many of us share having opportunity for 1 week in the summer and some random weekends the rest of the year(which we are grateful for) because zoning wont allow us to put another residence on our lot. We have over 20 acres of woodland, none of it wet, on a long private driveway shared by others but because the property isn't wide enough on Main Street we cannot build another residence. It sickens me what money can buy if you have an endless supply of it to grease the right people.

Oh by the way, we pay our taxes without complaint.

And how often do you see the mansion owners actually out enjoying the lake?

Sorry. I'll get off my soapbox. Had to vent. I feel better now.

Flag: I too would like to see more traditional "camps" on Winnipesaukee but I don't think it is appropriate to blame the "wealthy". The state, towns, conservation committees, voters, etc. all have had a part to play in the negative (my opinion) changes to Lake Winnipesaukee. If you spend some time on the lakes in Maine it is totally different and yes there are "wealthy" people there. Finally, be grateful you have a nice "camp" on Winnipesaukee with 20-acres to get away to. Many in America would consider your family "wealthy". It is all relative.