Ice-Out - rules change needed

Merrymeeting · 03-03-2014, 11:22 AM

I think we need to change the rules this year.

All extended forecasts show a very small, very brief period, barely above freezing this weekend. Then we plunge into 10-15 degrees below normal once again. I am SO tired of this bitter cold!

Time to change this years rules. Allow guesses through March 31st, and accept guesses for the month of June

jetlag100 · 03-04-2014, 09:12 AM

No worries, global warming will fix it, and it will go out on a suitable date (ya right

Tired of Waiting · 03-04-2014, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jetlag100

No worries, global warming will fix it, and it will go out on a suitable date (ya right

Jet, you need to be re-indoctrinated! It's "climate change" now.

ToW

ishoot308 · 03-04-2014, 09:39 AM

I just looked at the extended forecast and its saying 10 days from now that temperatures will still be in the single digits at night!! That means that the lake will still be making ice!!

I don't see ice out occurring before early May...

jetlag100 · 03-04-2014, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Tired of Waiting

Jet, you need to be re-indoctrinated! It's "climate change" now.

ToW

ToW so sorry I have JETLAG!!

Dad sold the C * C · 03-04-2014, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ishoot308

I don't see ice out occurring before early May...

Of course and it's our fault

We just bought a camp and have to install a new septic system so it's going to be a long time until "warm-up" and then end of mud season so we can bring equipment in

It's my welcome back to the Lakes Region

This'nThat · 03-04-2014, 07:10 PM

We might have ice-out this year; but it will likely be a very, very cold lake all year long. Sweaters in July.

Merrymeeting · 03-04-2014, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by This'nThat

We might have ice-out this year; but it will likely be a very, very cold lake all year long. Sweaters in July.

I'm a believer that Mother Nature always averages things out. So the good news is that we are going to have a great, HOT, Spring or Summer since the last few months have been so *()(*&^T cold!

tis · 03-05-2014, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Merrymeeting

I'm a believer that Mother Nature always averages things out. So the good news is that we are going to have a great, HOT, Spring or Summer since the last few months have been so *()(*&^T cold!

I agree with you. Things do usually average out. Unless it stays really cold through April things could change in a hurry.

Fiddlin' · 03-05-2014, 10:00 AM

I agree that there should have been a rules change (too late now!). There should be a way to change the last voting date year to year, according to the ice conditions. Because of the harsh winter, I didn't even think about ice-out until recently. My guess would be 2 weeks later than last years', meaning May 1. The Great Lakes are very close to record-breaking ice coverage (91%), and could easily exceed the record (91.3%) in the next day or so.

DickR · 03-05-2014, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by This'nThat

We might have ice-out this year;

OK, maybe we can get SteveA to Photoshop this image: A view from just south of Alton Bay, looking north. The tops of Mt.Major, Mt.Shaw, and maybe the tip of Rattlesnake Island show through the new Winnipesaukee Glacier hundreds of feet tall. Icebergs calve off the face onto what used to be Downing's Boat Landing. Trees in full autumn color in the foreground.

Merrymeeting · 03-05-2014, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fiddlin'

I agree that there should have been a rules change (too late now!). There should be a way to change the last voting date year to year, according to the ice conditions. Because of the harsh winter, I didn't even think about ice-out until recently. My guess would be 2 weeks later than last years', meaning May 1. The Great Lakes are very close to record-breaking ice coverage (91%), and could easily exceed the record (91.3%) in the next day or so.

Just to be clear, my post was in jest. I really don't believe the rules should change from year to year. Guesstimating in a year like this one is half the fun.

Also, FYI, last year we had a record early ice-out in March.

JB Long Island · 03-05-2014, 11:46 AM

Did that piece of open water off Welch that was hanging on (the Geothermal vent theory) ever freeze over ?

Happy Gourmand · 03-05-2014, 12:32 PM

Dus to continually below normal temperatures, ICE-OUT has been cancelled.

upthesaukee · 03-05-2014, 12:48 PM

Combine ice-out and ice-in....could be the same day

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This could be one of those years when we remember summer as July 11th at 3:45 PM. Before that time was winter into spring, and after that time is fall into winter.

Fiddlin' · 03-05-2014, 12:57 PM

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Also, FYI, last year we had a record early ice-out in March.

No, you must be thinking of 2012. Last years' was April 17.
I figured it was posted in fun, but the idea still seemed to have merit, since ice-outs can vary 3-4 weeks one year to next. Of course, how to do it would be the problem.

ishoot308 · 03-05-2014, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JB Long Island

Did that piece of open water off Welch that was hanging on (the Geothermal vent theory) ever freeze over ?

Yes! Not sure how thick it got though...

Dan

Steveo · 03-05-2014, 03:11 PM

I just sent in my boat launch request with my marina for the spring. I put down my usual first Saturday in May (May 3rd). I have serious concerns that I will not make it.

upthesaukee · 03-05-2014, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Steveo

I just sent in my boat launch request with my marina for the spring. I put down my usual first Saturday in May (May 3rd). I have serious concerns that I will not make it.

I sent mine in last month for May 1. The marina may be open, and I may be able to get out between Sleeper's and West Alton. May not be able to cruise the whole lake. That's ok.. any part of the lake is good.

Resident 2B · 03-05-2014, 04:47 PM

I have May 1st as well. Never been an ice-out on May 1st, so it is overdue. No science at all behind my guess, other than it will be a rather late ice-out.

R2B

upthesaukee · 03-05-2014, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Resident 2B

I have May 1st as well. Never been an ice-out on May 1st, so it is overdue. No science at all behind my guess, other than it will be a rather late ice-out.

R2B

Dock contracts are start on May 1, so May 1 sounded good to me. Plus, I don't really want to be the only boat out on the water, especially during the week.

Descant · 03-08-2014, 12:05 PM

If we don't have ice out by midnight on April 30, I suggest everybody turn on their dock bubblers at the same time...

Orion · 03-08-2014, 02:41 PM

I'm predicting that the person who chose the latest date, May 9 that I can see, will be the winner this year.

SIKSUKR · 03-12-2014, 12:51 PM

I believe ice out will be held up by an ironic occurance. A giant piece of ice will remain off Welch Island right where the open area last froze. Apparently this area has a one month delay in temperature response. Sorry for the bad news.

MDoug · 03-13-2014, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Steveo

I just sent in my boat launch request with my marina for the spring. I put down my usual first Saturday in May (May 3rd). I have serious concerns that I will not make it.

Same here! We may have to postpone flight up til mid May. So be it.

polarisman14 · 03-16-2014, 08:42 AM

It sounds like it is going to be a cool spring followed by a hot summer by what I've seen in any of the long-range predictions. If nothing else it'll give everyone a bit more time to get their boats cleaned up and in tip-top shape before ice-out. I spent an hour moving snow around yesterday so I can pull mine out of the carport and start digging into it.

trfour · 03-17-2014, 08:03 AM

Ice Out Late, and the birds are still patiently waiting for Spring!

Terry
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Orion · 03-17-2014, 08:41 AM

Too Funny!

PaugusBayFireFighter · 03-17-2014, 09:39 AM

Saw a robin today but they are here all year now so that first robin sighting has lost it's punch.

The animals know what's going on while lower intelligent humans argue about it.

Grant · 03-17-2014, 10:06 AM

Rules change?!?!?! Surely you're kidding.

So....if it's unusually warm next winter, we'll be able to end the guessing earlier?!?!

If you couldn't see that this was a remarkable winter during February, you either weren't paying attention, or were in Florida!

Just my $.02.

Merrymeeting · 03-17-2014, 04:20 PM

Grant, welcome back! Haven't seen you here in awhile.

See post #12

topwater · 03-17-2014, 07:57 PM

I did here from a very good source that on April 2nd it is going to be 92 Degrees.

PaugusBayFireFighter · 03-18-2014, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by topwater

I did here from a very good source that on April 2nd it is going to be 92 Degrees.

In San Diego

Grant · 03-18-2014, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Merrymeeting

Grant, welcome back! Haven't seen you here in awhile.

See post #12

HAHAHAHAHAHA. I'm a dope. (Or, rather, too lazy to read an entire thread.

Thanks for the heads up.

minni on winni · 03-19-2014, 10:24 AM

trfour......LOVE the pic!!!!! can I steal it for a winter screensaver. Love it!

trfour · 03-19-2014, 03:48 PM

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trfour......LOVE the pic!!!!! can I steal it for a winter screensaver. Love it!

Absolutely! I had to share it with!

Terry
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topwater · 03-20-2014, 02:57 AM

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In San Diego

No....in Jamaica, and thats where I will be. My summer very soon.

03-04-2014, 09:39 AM	#4
ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,373 Thanks: 2,423 Thanked 5,352 Times in 2,096 Posts	May Ice Out I just looked at the extended forecast and its saying 10 days from now that temperatures will still be in the single digits at night!! That means that the lake will still be making ice!! I don't see ice out occurring before early May... __________________ It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!

03-05-2014, 10:00 AM	#10
Fiddlin' Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 11 Thanks: 3 Thanked 9 Times in 2 Posts	rules change I agree that there should have been a rules change (too late now!). There should be a way to change the last voting date year to year, according to the ice conditions. Because of the harsh winter, I didn't even think about ice-out until recently. My guess would be 2 weeks later than last years', meaning May 1. The Great Lakes are very close to record-breaking ice coverage (91%), and could easily exceed the record (91.3%) in the next day or so.

03-05-2014, 11:46 AM	#13
JB Long Island Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 29 Thanks: 8 Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts	Welch ? Did that piece of open water off Welch that was hanging on (the Geothermal vent theory) ever freeze over ?

03-05-2014, 12:32 PM	#14
Happy Gourmand Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ruskin FL Posts: 1,027 Thanks: 188 Thanked 322 Times in 179 Posts	Notice Dus to continually below normal temperatures, ICE-OUT has been cancelled.

03-05-2014, 12:48 PM	#15
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,614 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,483 Thanked 1,987 Times in 1,087 Posts	New thought for 2014... Combine ice-out and ice-in....could be the same day . This could be one of those years when we remember summer as July 11th at 3:45 PM. Before that time was winter into spring, and after that time is fall into winter. __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

03-03-2014, 11:22 AM	#1
Merrymeeting Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Merrymeeting Lake, New Durham Posts: 2,228 Thanks: 305 Thanked 802 Times in 369 Posts	Ice-Out - rules change needed I think we need to change the rules this year. All extended forecasts show a very small, very brief period, barely above freezing this weekend. Then we plunge into 10-15 degrees below normal once again. I am SO tired of this bitter cold! Time to change this years rules. Allow guesses through March 31st, and accept guesses for the month of June

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03-04-2014, 09:12 AM	#2
jetlag100 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Revere, Massachusetts and Moultonborough, N.H. Posts: 311 Thanks: 228 Thanked 79 Times in 50 Posts	No worries, global warming will fix it, and it will go out on a suitable date (ya right

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03-04-2014, 07:10 PM	#7
This'nThat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 534 Thanks: 19 Thanked 134 Times in 61 Posts	We might have ice-out this year; but it will likely be a very, very cold lake all year long. Sweaters in July.

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03-05-2014, 03:11 PM	#18
Steveo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 525 Thanks: 47 Thanked 123 Times in 63 Posts	Boat launch date I just sent in my boat launch request with my marina for the spring. I put down my usual first Saturday in May (May 3rd). I have serious concerns that I will not make it.

03-05-2014, 04:47 PM	#20
Resident 2B Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Shore, MA Posts: 1,358 Thanks: 996 Thanked 314 Times in 164 Posts	I have May 1st as well. Never been an ice-out on May 1st, so it is overdue. No science at all behind my guess, other than it will be a rather late ice-out. R2B

03-08-2014, 12:05 PM	#22
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,479 Thanks: 1,389 Thanked 1,667 Times in 1,086 Posts	Give Mother Nature some help If we don't have ice out by midnight on April 30, I suggest everybody turn on their dock bubblers at the same time...

03-08-2014, 02:41 PM	#23
Orion Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 914 Thanks: 602 Thanked 193 Times in 91 Posts	It'll be a new record, I'm sure I'm predicting that the person who chose the latest date, May 9 that I can see, will be the winner this year.

03-12-2014, 12:51 PM	#24
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Important update!! I believe ice out will be held up by an ironic occurance. A giant piece of ice will remain off Welch Island right where the open area last froze. Apparently this area has a one month delay in temperature response. Sorry for the bad news. __________________ SIKSUKR

03-16-2014, 08:42 AM	#26
polarisman14 Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Gilmanton, NH Posts: 139 Thanks: 37 Thanked 23 Times in 20 Posts	It sounds like it is going to be a cool spring followed by a hot summer by what I've seen in any of the long-range predictions. If nothing else it'll give everyone a bit more time to get their boats cleaned up and in tip-top shape before ice-out. I spent an hour moving snow around yesterday so I can pull mine out of the carport and start digging into it. __________________ >>>Matt<<< To Tow: 2007 Honda Ridgeline RTL To Float: 1977 MFG Gypsy Star 17 O/B

03-17-2014, 08:03 AM	#27
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,069 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	Ice Out Late, and the birds are still patiently waiting for Spring! Terry ____________________________ Attached Images __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

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Orion Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 914 Thanks: 602 Thanked 193 Times in 91 Posts	Lol Too Funny!

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Grant Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pennsyltuckey, Tuftonboro, Moultonborough Posts: 1,505 Thanks: 385 Thanked 232 Times in 126 Posts	Rules change?!?!?! Surely you're kidding. So....if it's unusually warm next winter, we'll be able to end the guessing earlier?!?! If you couldn't see that this was a remarkable winter during February, you either weren't paying attention, or were in Florida! Just my $.02. __________________ "When I die, please don't let my wife sell my dive gear for what I told her I paid for it."

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Merrymeeting Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Merrymeeting Lake, New Durham Posts: 2,228 Thanks: 305 Thanked 802 Times in 369 Posts	Grant, welcome back! Haven't seen you here in awhile. See post #12

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topwater Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 302 Thanks: 85 Thanked 116 Times in 48 Posts	I did here from a very good source that on April 2nd it is going to be 92 Degrees.

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