Ideal Island.....

[Buoy #67]

Originally Posted by jazzman

Just remember... There may be days that your dock looks like this and you won't be leaving...

You said young children... What about a medical emergency. Law enforcement issues, fires can all be replaced or repaired !! Medical or accidents need attention ASAP. Kids are always into something... Just some food for thought.

[Bear Islander]

Originally Posted by Buoy #67

You said young children... What about a medical emergency. Law enforcement issues, fires can all be replaced or repaired !! Medical or accidents need attention ASAP. Kids are always into something... Just some food for thought.

Emergency response on the islands is better than most people would imagine. On a 911 call the Marine Patrol are on scene in about 5 minutes. The Fire Boat usually arrives a few minutes later. I'm certain we have better response times than many areas on the mainland.

New Hampshire law gives Marine Patrol officers, when they are on an island, the same powers as the local police.

Parents regularly take their children hiking, camping, fishing, boating or to other remote locations in NH without being told they are endangering their children. Perhaps you should think a little more before you post. Just some food for thought.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by Bear Islander

Emergency response on the islands is better than most people would imagine. On a 911 call the Marine Patrol are on scene in about 5 minutes. The Fire Boat usually arrives a few minutes later. I'm certain we have better response times than many areas on the mainland.

New Hampshire law gives Marine Patrol officers, when they are on an island, the same powers as the local police.

Parents regularly take their children hiking, camping, fishing, boating or to other remote locations in NH without being told they are endangering their children. Perhaps you should think a little more before you post. Just some food for thought.

That seems a bit harsh. I think Buoy #67 made some good points.

[DEJ]

Originally Posted by Bear Islander

Perhaps you should think a little more before you post.

A bit harsh indeed.

[Bear Islander]

There are 192 homes on Bear Island alone. Add the two children's camps and that must be close to a thousand children on the island on some days in the summer. The suggestion that parents on an island are isolating their children from emergency care is untrue. To suggest that is to suggest we are endangering our children. I take an accusation like that VERY seriously.

I can understand that the post was probably made in good faith without any intent to accuse. Yet that is what it did.

In my opinion the suggestion of child endangerment without knowing the facts is what is harsh.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by Bear Islander

There are 192 homes on Bear Island alone. Add the two children's camps and that must be close to a thousand children on the island on some days in the summer. The suggestion that parents on an island are isolating their children from emergency care is untrue. To suggest that is to suggest we are endangering our children. I take an accusation like that VERY seriously.

I can understand that the post was probably made in good faith without any intent to accuse. Yet that is what it did.

In my opinion the suggestion of child endangerment without knowing the facts is what is harsh.

Seriously, BI? Let's see, in the majority of cases, what property would get emergency responders first - mainland or island property? I think that's all Buoy #67 was eluding to. I'm sure all the summer camps have trained first responders on staff, so comparing those with private residences is apples to oranges. Child endangerment.... Sounds like something that the Mass DCF would dream up.

[DEJ]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

Seriously, BI? Let's see, in the majority of cases, what property would get emergency responders first - mainland or island property? I think that's all Buoy #67 was eluding to. I'm sure all the summer camps have trained first responders on staff, so comparing those with private residences is apples to oranges. Child endangerment.... Sounds like something that the Mass DCF would dream up.

Seriously, BI, +1 here Seaplane Pilot.

[granitebox]

The camps have RNs on staff.

[MAXUM]

Eh why does everyone get so worked up over something that could but is unlikely to happen? Sure kids get hurt from time to time, but common a life threatening injury so bad you need a entourage of first responders? Unlikely to say the least. Live a little!

People in other areas of the country live, not just vacation, in far more isolated areas than an island on a lake. Yet they manage to have families and survive just fine.

[Coolbreeze]

Maxum got it right, live a little. Just a plan of action is all you need in the back of your mind in case the do-do hits the fan.
You won't regret living on the island. Just have a good foul weather, reliable boat.

[Newbiesaukee]

Certainly each of us assesses risk daily. In a major decision, such as where to live, the real difficulty is knowing the correct issues to assess. Availability of emergency medical care is an issue that is perfectly valid to consider ; and, in fact, would be very helpful to point out to the potential islander. The inference that raising the issue suggests that parents of island children are somehow irresponsible doesn't make much sense to me.

It is the risks we don't know about that are the dangerous ones.

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by Bear Islander

Emergency response on the islands is better than most people would imagine. On a 911 call the Marine Patrol are on scene in about 5 minutes. The Fire Boat usually arrives a few minutes later. I'm certain we have better response times than many areas on the mainland.

New Hampshire law gives Marine Patrol officers, when they are on an island, the same powers as the local police.

Parents regularly take their children hiking, camping, fishing, boating or to other remote locations in NH without being told they are endangering their children. Perhaps you should think a little more before you post. Just some food for thought.

Not all island are as easily accessible as Bear is.

As far as the laws regarding the powers of Marine Patrol when on an island, that remains to be seen. It is my understanding that they can go on an island when investigating a marine related incident however their jurisdiction does not allow them to cover the same things that the PD does. Case in point- a few years back when we were dealing with the late night hot tub marauders on the island it was Gilford PD that had to investigate and enforce, with Marine Patrol providing their transportation to and from the island.

Back to the thread at hand-

I lived in the area of Mink for 10 years and probably passed by that house dozens of times. Usually we would go out and around Mink instead of going through the channel, otherwise the count would be much higher. The peace and quiet of being tucked in the NWZ has its advantages and disadvantages. Your view will be limited and the water frontage may get a bit "weedy" in there. We never really walked around the island much, I think we probably hiked around it 1 or 2 times in many years. If we were there it was not to go hiking, so to that point a smaller island would be equally as fulfilling to us.

Mink Islander has a great view, one of the best in Gilford as far as I am concerned. I looked at the lot next door to him when it was on the market. As previously mentioned he'd be a good one to check in with. The listing agent Rob Wichland is a long time Mink resident as well, although he may be a bit biased.

[tis]

I think you are right. I think the MP can only investigate on the water and docks, not on land. At least I know that is true on mainland.

[Bear Islander]

Originally Posted by codeman671

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As far as the laws regarding the powers of Marine Patrol when on an island, that remains to be seen. It is my understanding that they can go on an island when investigating a marine related incident however their jurisdiction does not allow them to cover the same things that the PD does...

If you read Section 270:12-a "Enforcement Powers Conferred" you will find that, on an island, in the absence of local police Marine Patrol have the same powers as local police. The section is kind of convoluted but here is the important part.

Any crime or offense, excluding a violation of title XVIII or a violation of title XXI not involving a boat or watercraft, that occurs on an island or on the mainland contiguous to inland or coastal bodies of water in the absence of any law enforcement agency with jurisdiction immediately available when immediate action is required...

[DEJ]

Let's get back on topic or start a new thread.