Your water-level worries are over ...

secondcurve · 10-17-2005, 07:52 PM

RG:

Your pictures of the "surf" were great. That being said, photos of waves never do them justice. They are much nastier when you are bouncing around in them on a boat. I wonder if Glove and Plut would reconsider their comments about a 20 foot boat being adequate equipment for the big lake after being out in conditions like we have had recently?

Lakegeezer · 10-18-2005, 12:07 PM

With the lake at record levels, there is about 27 billion gallons of water that need to be released from the lake before its down to "draw-down" level. I don't have my formula book handy, but 27 billion gallons sitting at 505 feet above sea level represents a LOT of potential energy. A quick google search http://www.tsgc.utexas.edu/archive/d...rage/full.html indicates that a constant 30 megawatts per hour could be generated for 40 days. Too bad most of it cannot be harvested. Does anyone know how much electricity is actually generated along the water path from Winnipesaukee to the sea?

Mee-n-Mac · 10-18-2005, 10:06 PM

Looking at the lake level it seems to have stopped rising but it's still not falling

At this time the output from the dam has climbed back up to it's max rate so hopefully the waters will start to recede soon. I'm a bit worried as the data show a rise of perhaps 3-4 in from when we were there last. At that time the water was lapping at the bottom of the dock and now it has to be over the top boards, at least on the outer, lower end. I'm hoping it hasn't pulled a "mcdude" on us, taking the Mee'n'Mac for a ride along with it.

I'm guessing our neighbor who was still around Monday (now departed for FL) would have let us know if anything drastic had happened.....

RG - great pics of Parker Marina, Alton Gazebo and Downing's dock. Given the questionable integrity of the latter, I wonder if it will be around when the waters recede ? I wonder how large Sunday's waves out on the Broads would have measured ? Glad we didn't get the same hammering down in Alton Bay, the wind was enough as it was.

ApS · 10-20-2005, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secondcurve

"...I wonder if Glove and Plut would reconsider their comments about a 20 foot boat being adequate equipment for the big lake after being out in conditions like we have had recently?

But how much IS enough boat? One can't wish a boat size onto "present water conditions".

You still must weigh whether to go out there or not, given all the variables -- including your boat handling skills. "Getting-home-itis" is to tempt Fate.

Sometimes "a fishing trip" is poorly advised.

Misty Blue · 10-21-2005, 09:11 AM

I am off for at least part of this weekend and if you are stuck in Florida, Pennsyltucky or Iraq, etc. and are concerned about your place give me a call 603-455-7178 and I'll putt on by and check on it for you. What are friends for?

Misty Blue

Rattlesnake Gal · 10-21-2005, 12:04 PM

Misty, you are so nice to offer up your services!
Have you been flooded with calls yet?
DRH was wonderful enough to check on our place on Tuesday. It really eased our minds. Thanks again DRH!
See you on the lake.

mcdude · 10-21-2005, 03:58 PM

Misty:
What a generous offer. Thanks so much! You gotta love this forum! McD

HotDog · 10-21-2005, 04:16 PM

what is the lake at now (level?)

secondcurve · 10-21-2005, 05:49 PM

Misty:

Be careful out there, the water is chilling down quickly. Wear your PFD.

Mee-n-Mac · 10-22-2005, 03:18 PM

Despite MB's generous offer, I made a quick trip to check that our dock hadn't gone "mcdude" on us (it hadn't). Interestingly the water wasn't as high as I had feared. It was only slightly more than last Sunday's level despite the readings at Lakeport. I can only guess the wind was piling up the water last weekend and when it stopped blowing it was replaced by this weeks rise. I put the equivalent of a good NFL defensive line on the dock ala FLL's water weights and so should be OK despite what rain comes in the next few days. I just checked the lake level and it is presently receding (maybe 1" in last 24 hrs) so it appears the tide is headed out (for now

). Looking up and down Alton Bay I could see sticks and logs and miscellaneous flotsam everywhere, big stuff too. No way would I be out at night like I saw 1 person doing. As I passed the "roped off" Alton Bay beach I had a new concept of what a perched beach was. Not one held back by a wall but rather one where the perch swim to sun themselves.

mcdude · 10-22-2005, 05:07 PM

Mee-n-Mac:
We'd love to see a photo of those perch sunning at the beach. Were they sunning in such a way so as to look like a wall?.....a perched wall? Perhaps a photo along the lines of the one you posted of the spaceship on top of the stone tower so we could all see what this perched beach looks like?

.....and I notice that my formal name "mcdude" (my honest-to- goodness God-given name BTW) has now become a verb. I am honored.

1 mcdude \ mick ~ dewd \ v. [from the Mee-n-Mac dialect] 1: to float away in high water as in flood conditions - as in a permanent or semi-permanent object such as a dock.

Object subject to "mcduding"??????????????

KBoater · 10-22-2005, 05:48 PM

Does McDude go mcduding down the McDude River??

Mee-n-Mac · 10-22-2005, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLboater

Does McDude go mcduding down the McDude River??

I believe only when the water spirit moves him

ps - Good work on Chapter 5. I can see this becoming a school play ...

Mee-n-Mac · 10-23-2005, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcdude

Mee-n-Mac:
We'd love to see a photo of those perch sunning at the beach. Were they sunning in such a way so as to look like a wall?.....a perched wall?

I'll see what develops after we get back from taking Pepper's place on NCL. Meanwhile you can see a dock ala FLL, hmmm ... it's been FLL-ized, FLL-ated, FLL-???

ApS · 10-23-2005, 05:39 AM

It's FLL-rated! (And not too soon...it's been raining steadily since early this morning).

Those following Hurricane Wilma just found out this morning

that a series of three new tropical storms are expected to combine and bring bad weather/rain to the Gulf of Maine. I missed whether they are to precede Hurricane Wilma's effects here or follow it. (Thursday's forecast mentioned a Wilma-glance of Cape Cod / Nova Scotia)

My dock is nailed and chained together, so there's no need to buy garbage cans. 'Hope Lakeport is reading these forecasts, though.

With the lake touching the dock, it's a good time to check the "levelness" of our docks. I see Mee'n'Mac's is slightly out of kilter, just as mine is.

With so much ice damage around the lake in 2002 -- and no barges available in June -- I had to fix my dock with levers, hoist-winches, and water pressure. (A water-circulater failed when some object shredded the propeller).

In my case, the ice pushed the near pilings in some. The repair couldn't lower the "near" pilings by very much.

Lakegeezer · 10-23-2005, 08:09 AM

During that sad boat trip to the launch for the final journey of the year, I got some shots of docks that were looking a bit low. Overall, most folks don't have to worry if the lake doesn't come up more than a few more inches.

ghfromaltonbay · 10-23-2005, 07:11 PM

Thanks for the picture looking out at Sandy Point. I miss the place already. Heard from our friends on Loon Island that they had to raise the boat house doors a few inches to get them out of the water. Hopefully Wilma won't dump too much more rain on the place.

upthesaukee · 10-23-2005, 09:39 PM

M-n-M, as I headed out to the dump, er landfill, er transfer station, I did take a look at your docks and the "sentries" were still standing tall early Sunday afternoon.

Special statement on the weather channel relating to Wilma came across the TV this afternoon : Looking at high winds and up to 2-4 inches of rain possible.

I think this link will get us to that statement.

http://www.weather.com/weather/local...from=whatwhere

And I did hear a boat night before last that sounded like it was up on plane leaving Alton bay. With all the junk out there, it would be headway speed and spotlight for me!!!!!

Rattlesnake Gal · 10-23-2005, 10:51 PM

Rattlesnake Guy and I took a field trip to a few dams today.

Lakeport

Lakeport II

Northfield/Tilton

Franklin

Live Free or Die · 10-24-2005, 12:05 AM

What a flow, I have never seen the dams running like that.....

mcdude · 10-24-2005, 06:41 AM

Hi RG:
Very nicely done mini-movies! Were those taken with your digital cam? McD

Rattlesnake Gal · 10-24-2005, 08:12 AM

I used my DiMAGE A2. (Not the video camera.) The files were much larger and better quality, but smaller files are easier for members to view.
During the commercials on Desperate Housewives, I kept running to the computer to try and upload the video to the site, without avail. At 11:00 pm R-Guy came to the rescue. The files were too large and not the right type, so he resized them. That didn't work either, so he let me upload them to his site. He is so good to me.

(Unfortunately that will expire soon.

)
Can video be uploaded on the forum?

Mee-n-Mac · 11-01-2005, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upthesaukee

M-n-M, as I headed out to the dump, er landfill, er transfer station, I did take a look at your docks and the "sentries" were still standing tall early Sunday afternoon. {SNIP}

Thx for the check-up ! We're back from evading Wilma down Bermuda-way and will recheck this next weekend (also time to put the Mee'n'Mac away). Some other friends closed up their place this past weekend and dropped by our place. Dock hadn't "mcduded" due to Wilma remants so we're safe (for now). Forecast is good for this week though I do wonder if they'll get the lake down before it starts freezing

Should get some interesting lake pics during the farewell cruise.

hiker47 · 11-06-2005, 10:01 PM

Has the Lake level decreased enough that docks can be raised for the winter?
My dock on Morrison Cove had about six inches of water over the deck two we and about three inches last weekend. Has the Lake level decreased four inches in the last week? Also, I'm told a Mr. Fay in is charge of regulating the Lake level. What are his qualifications? Is he a cerftified hydrologist? Is a NH State employee or does he work for the owners of the dam? There are legal questions of responsibilty for damages to property if there is any negligence on the part of the dam owners or if those making dcisions are not qualified. No one has asked these questions or answered them, to the nest of my knowledge. I would like to have these answers if anyone on line can assist.
Thanks. doc

Island Girl · 11-07-2005, 05:50 AM

Bob Fay does an outstanding job operating that dam. If you watch the water levels, weather and all that goes into filling and emptying the lake you will see that he is eminently qualified. I am amazed that the lake is as well controlled as it is given all the migigating factors. He can't control 10-12 inches of rainfall and all the runoff.

DRH · 11-07-2005, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiker47

Has the Lake level decreased enough that docks can be raised for the winter?
My dock on Morrison Cove had about six inches of water over the deck two we and about three inches last weekend. Has the Lake level decreased four inches in the last week? Also, I'm told a Mr. Fay in is charge of regulating the Lake level. What are his qualifications? Is he a cerftified hydrologist? Is a NH State employee or does he work for the owners of the dam? There are legal questions of responsibilty for damages to property if there is any negligence on the part of the dam owners or if those making dcisions are not qualified. No one has asked these questions or answered them, to the nest of my knowledge. I would like to have these answers if anyone on line can assist.
Thanks. doc

Bob Fay is a state employee with the NH Department of Environmental Services Dam Bureau.

Mee-n-Mac · 11-08-2005, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiker47

Has the Lake level decreased enough that docks can be raised for the winter?
My dock on Morrison Cove had about six inches of water over the deck two we and about three inches last weekend. Has the Lake level decreased four inches in the last week? Also, I'm told a Mr. Fay in is charge of regulating the Lake level. What are his qualifications? Is he a cerftified hydrologist? Is a NH State employee or does he work for the owners of the dam? There are legal questions of responsibilty for damages to property if there is any negligence on the part of the dam owners or if those making dcisions are not qualified. No one has asked these questions or answered them, to the nest of my knowledge. I would like to have these answers if anyone on line can assist.
Thanks. doc

Link to previous post w/dam info, lake level ...

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...22551#poststop

GWC... · 11-08-2005, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiker47

I would like to have these answers if anyone on line can assist. Thanks. doc

Rob has been a damn operator for decades.

If you really need answers, then contact the state.

If you are afraid of personal contact, then write DES in Concord for a response.

hiker47 · 11-08-2005, 11:04 PM

DHR / GWC
Thank you for the information. I have no complaints with Mr. Fay, I just wanted to know his qualifications. As a NH State employee I am sure he is qualified as a hydrologist or supervised by one.

If anyone knows the Lake level at the present time (Is it down further from the weekend), I would appreciate that. I'd like to raise my dock before it winter freeze but I guess it would be cold this weekend either way. Thanks. doc

ApS · 11-10-2005, 07:41 AM

I suspect a hydrologist would know that development is a significant contributor to the rapid Winnipesaukee water level increases.

For centuries, the forests have acted like a sponge to keep the velocity of rain runoff moderated. (Providing us a clean, clear, "Class A" lake. Now it's a "B" -- and there is no "Class C").

Things have changed in the last 20 years: When you build houses, garages, mini-warehouses, dry boat-storage facilities, then pave over woodlands for parking lots, ditches, new roads, culverts and driveways, the velocity of rain runoff has to increase. The rapidity-extremes and height-extremes of the lake's rise are affected, but also the quality of water feeding into it.

That is why this thread got posted (Who's in Charge?) in General Discussions.

There don't appear to be adequate state guidelines in temporarily trapping / sequestering runoff (which resulted in both of my neighbors' leachfields being washed into the lake following rainfall from the development "upstream").

Earlier this season, photos were placed here concerning backyard "roaring rapids". I wonder what's upstream from there?

Quote:

Originally Posted by GWC...

"...Rob has been a dam operator for decades..."

Would that include 1984 and 1998? (No-wake, high water)?

johnegordon · 10-22-2005, 03:24 PM

Thank you all for the information on the lake situation, and particularly for the web sites with lake levels.
I'm in Rochester, NY, 8 hours from Wolfeboro, and without knowing lake levels, I don't know when I can begin dock repairs.
No point in coming to look at a submerged dock.
I see that the levels are dropping slowly, but we're sending some more rain your way.
Thanks again

10-17-2005, 07:52 PM	#1
secondcurve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,117 Thanks: 1,328 Thanked 559 Times in 288 Posts	Nice Pictures RG: Your pictures of the "surf" were great. That being said, photos of waves never do them justice. They are much nastier when you are bouncing around in them on a boat. I wonder if Glove and Plut would reconsider their comments about a 20 foot boat being adequate equipment for the big lake after being out in conditions like we have had recently?

10-18-2005, 12:07 PM	#2
Lakegeezer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 1,678 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 354 Thanked 639 Times in 290 Posts	What energy crisis? With the lake at record levels, there is about 27 billion gallons of water that need to be released from the lake before its down to "draw-down" level. I don't have my formula book handy, but 27 billion gallons sitting at 505 feet above sea level represents a LOT of potential energy. A quick google search http://www.tsgc.utexas.edu/archive/d...rage/full.html indicates that a constant 30 megawatts per hour could be generated for 40 days. Too bad most of it cannot be harvested. Does anyone know how much electricity is actually generated along the water path from Winnipesaukee to the sea? __________________ -lg

10-18-2005, 10:06 PM	#3
Mee-n-Mac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,943 Thanks: 23 Thanked 111 Times in 51 Posts	Yikes ! Looking at the lake level it seems to have stopped rising but it's still not falling At this time the output from the dam has climbed back up to it's max rate so hopefully the waters will start to recede soon. I'm a bit worried as the data show a rise of perhaps 3-4 in from when we were there last. At that time the water was lapping at the bottom of the dock and now it has to be over the top boards, at least on the outer, lower end. I'm hoping it hasn't pulled a "mcdude" on us, taking the Mee'n'Mac for a ride along with it. I'm guessing our neighbor who was still around Monday (now departed for FL) would have let us know if anything drastic had happened..... RG - great pics of Parker Marina, Alton Gazebo and Downing's dock. Given the questionable integrity of the latter, I wonder if it will be around when the waters recede ? I wonder how large Sunday's waves out on the Broads would have measured ? Glad we didn't get the same hammering down in Alton Bay, the wind was enough as it was. __________________ Mee'n'Mac "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by simple stupidity or ignorance. The latter are a lot more common than the former." - RAH

10-21-2005, 09:11 AM	#5
Misty Blue Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 658 Thanks: 121 Thanked 283 Times in 98 Posts	Check your place? I am off for at least part of this weekend and if you are stuck in Florida, Pennsyltucky or Iraq, etc. and are concerned about your place give me a call 603-455-7178 and I'll putt on by and check on it for you. What are friends for? Misty Blue

10-21-2005, 12:04 PM	#6
Rattlesnake Gal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central NH Posts: 5,252 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,451 Thanked 1,349 Times in 475 Posts	What A Guy! Misty, you are so nice to offer up your services! Have you been flooded with calls yet? DRH was wonderful enough to check on our place on Tuesday. It really eased our minds. Thanks again DRH! See you on the lake.

10-21-2005, 03:58 PM	#7
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,367 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,057 Times in 495 Posts	Misty: What a generous offer. Thanks so much! You gotta love this forum! McD

10-21-2005, 04:16 PM	#8
HotDog Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	what is the lake at now (level?) __________________ live today like you wont live tomorrow

10-21-2005, 05:49 PM	#9
secondcurve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,117 Thanks: 1,328 Thanked 559 Times in 288 Posts	Misty: Be careful out there, the water is chilling down quickly. Wear your PFD.

10-22-2005, 03:18 PM	#10
Mee-n-Mac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,943 Thanks: 23 Thanked 111 Times in 51 Posts	And the tide turns Despite MB's generous offer, I made a quick trip to check that our dock hadn't gone "mcdude" on us (it hadn't). Interestingly the water wasn't as high as I had feared. It was only slightly more than last Sunday's level despite the readings at Lakeport. I can only guess the wind was piling up the water last weekend and when it stopped blowing it was replaced by this weeks rise. I put the equivalent of a good NFL defensive line on the dock ala FLL's water weights and so should be OK despite what rain comes in the next few days. I just checked the lake level and it is presently receding (maybe 1" in last 24 hrs) so it appears the tide is headed out (for now ). Looking up and down Alton Bay I could see sticks and logs and miscellaneous flotsam everywhere, big stuff too. No way would I be out at night like I saw 1 person doing. As I passed the "roped off" Alton Bay beach I had a new concept of what a perched beach was. Not one held back by a wall but rather one where the perch swim to sun themselves. __________________ Mee'n'Mac "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by simple stupidity or ignorance. The latter are a lot more common than the former." - RAH

10-22-2005, 05:07 PM	#11
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,367 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,057 Times in 495 Posts	Mee-n-Mac: We'd love to see a photo of those perch sunning at the beach. Were they sunning in such a way so as to look like a wall?.....a perched wall? Perhaps a photo along the lines of the one you posted of the spaceship on top of the stone tower so we could all see what this perched beach looks like? .....and I notice that my formal name "mcdude" (my honest-to- goodness God-given name BTW) has now become a verb. I am honored. 1 mcdude \ mick ~ dewd \ v. [from the Mee-n-Mac dialect] 1: to float away in high water as in flood conditions - as in a permanent or semi-permanent object such as a dock. Object subject to "mcduding"?????????????? Last edited by mcdude; 10-22-2005 at 05:15 PM.

10-22-2005, 05:48 PM	#12
KBoater Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wolfeboro Posts: 521 Thanks: 10 Thanked 29 Times in 15 Posts	McDude ???? Does McDude go mcduding down the McDude River?? __________________ Home Permanently in NH Last edited by KBoater; 10-22-2005 at 06:09 PM.

10-23-2005, 05:39 AM	#15
ApS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florida (Sebring & Keys), Wolfeboro Posts: 5,938 Thanks: 2,205 Thanked 776 Times in 553 Posts	It's FLL-rated! (And not too soon...it's been raining steadily since early this morning). Those following Hurricane Wilma just found out this morning that a series of three new tropical storms are expected to combine and bring bad weather/rain to the Gulf of Maine. I missed whether they are to precede Hurricane Wilma's effects here or follow it. (Thursday's forecast mentioned a Wilma-glance of Cape Cod / Nova Scotia) My dock is nailed and chained together, so there's no need to buy garbage cans. 'Hope Lakeport is reading these forecasts, though. With the lake touching the dock, it's a good time to check the "levelness" of our docks. I see Mee'n'Mac's is slightly out of kilter, just as mine is. With so much ice damage around the lake in 2002 -- and no barges available in June -- I had to fix my dock with levers, hoist-winches, and water pressure. (A water-circulater failed when some object shredded the propeller). In my case, the ice pushed the near pilings in some. The repair couldn't lower the "near" pilings by very much. Last edited by ApS; 10-23-2005 at 07:07 AM. Reason: Dock level

10-23-2005, 08:09 AM	#16
Lakegeezer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 1,678 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 354 Thanked 639 Times in 290 Posts	Dock pics During that sad boat trip to the launch for the final journey of the year, I got some shots of docks that were looking a bit low. Overall, most folks don't have to worry if the lake doesn't come up more than a few more inches. Attached Images __________________ -lg

10-23-2005, 07:11 PM	#17
ghfromaltonbay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Clifton, NJ, Alton Bay Posts: 827 Thanks: 255 Thanked 225 Times in 131 Posts	Thanks Mee-and-Mac Thanks for the picture looking out at Sandy Point. I miss the place already. Heard from our friends on Loon Island that they had to raise the boat house doors a few inches to get them out of the water. Hopefully Wilma won't dump too much more rain on the place.

10-23-2005, 09:39 PM	#18
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,599 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,458 Thanked 1,981 Times in 1,082 Posts	M-n-M, as I headed out to the dump, er landfill, er transfer station, I did take a look at your docks and the "sentries" were still standing tall early Sunday afternoon. Special statement on the weather channel relating to Wilma came across the TV this afternoon : Looking at high winds and up to 2-4 inches of rain possible. I think this link will get us to that statement. http://www.weather.com/weather/local...from=whatwhere And I did hear a boat night before last that sounded like it was up on plane leaving Alton bay. With all the junk out there, it would be headway speed and spotlight for me!!!!! __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

10-23-2005, 10:51 PM	#19
Rattlesnake Gal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central NH Posts: 5,252 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,451 Thanked 1,349 Times in 475 Posts	Dam Video Rattlesnake Guy and I took a field trip to a few dams today. Lakeport Lakeport II Northfield/Tilton Franklin

10-24-2005, 12:05 AM	#20
Live Free or Die Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Somewhere south of the White Mtns. Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wow!!!! What a flow, I have never seen the dams running like that..... __________________ FREEDOM OF SPEACH IS A RIGHT, NOT A PRIVLEDGE.....

10-24-2005, 06:41 AM	#21
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,367 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,057 Times in 495 Posts	Excellent Videos Hi RG: Very nicely done mini-movies! Were those taken with your digital cam? McD

10-24-2005, 08:12 AM	#22
Rattlesnake Gal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central NH Posts: 5,252 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,451 Thanked 1,349 Times in 475 Posts	Dam Video I used my DiMAGE A2. (Not the video camera.) The files were much larger and better quality, but smaller files are easier for members to view. During the commercials on Desperate Housewives, I kept running to the computer to try and upload the video to the site, without avail. At 11:00 pm R-Guy came to the rescue. The files were too large and not the right type, so he resized them. That didn't work either, so he let me upload them to his site. He is so good to me. (Unfortunately that will expire soon. ) Can video be uploaded on the forum?

11-06-2005, 10:01 PM	#24
hiker47 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Lake Water Level Has the Lake level decreased enough that docks can be raised for the winter? My dock on Morrison Cove had about six inches of water over the deck two we and about three inches last weekend. Has the Lake level decreased four inches in the last week? Also, I'm told a Mr. Fay in is charge of regulating the Lake level. What are his qualifications? Is he a cerftified hydrologist? Is a NH State employee or does he work for the owners of the dam? There are legal questions of responsibilty for damages to property if there is any negligence on the part of the dam owners or if those making dcisions are not qualified. No one has asked these questions or answered them, to the nest of my knowledge. I would like to have these answers if anyone on line can assist. Thanks. doc

11-07-2005, 05:50 AM	#25
Island Girl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Central MA Posts: 2,352 Thanks: 18 Thanked 535 Times in 179 Posts	Bob Fay Bob Fay does an outstanding job operating that dam. If you watch the water levels, weather and all that goes into filling and emptying the lake you will see that he is eminently qualified. I am amazed that the lake is as well controlled as it is given all the migigating factors. He can't control 10-12 inches of rainfall and all the runoff. __________________ Island Girl ....... Make Lemonade

11-08-2005, 11:04 PM	#29
hiker47 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	DHR / GWC Thank you for the information. I have no complaints with Mr. Fay, I just wanted to know his qualifications. As a NH State employee I am sure he is qualified as a hydrologist or supervised by one. If anyone knows the Lake level at the present time (Is it down further from the weekend), I would appreciate that. I'd like to raise my dock before it winter freeze but I guess it would be cold this weekend either way. Thanks. doc

10-22-2005, 03:24 PM	#31
johnegordon Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Thank you all for the information on the lake situation, and particularly for the web sites with lake levels. I'm in Rochester, NY, 8 hours from Wolfeboro, and without knowing lake levels, I don't know when I can begin dock repairs. No point in coming to look at a submerged dock. I see that the levels are dropping slowly, but we're sending some more rain your way. Thanks again