Meskhetian Turk refugees headed for Laconia home

Joe Kerr · 10-18-2005, 09:37 AM

How many of us had ancestors who immigrated to the USA or were refugees?

If you (or me) were displaced or had to leave our home country where would we go?

SAMIAM · 10-18-2005, 11:13 AM

I don't know about you....but I'm on charity overload.We raised huge amounts of money after 9/11,the tsunami,hurricanes ,floods and earthquakes.All this while being dunned about 3rd world poverty and AIDS in Africa.
These new immigrants will need food stamps,housing subsidies,welfare,medicare and fuel subsidies.......taking these already scarce resources away from those in our community.When they get arrested....you'll be paying for a court intertpreter.....the ACLU will see to that.
We cheerfully support our local charities and there are many good ones that give back and provide vital services to our own friends and neighbors.
Lewiston Maine accepted nearly 2,000 Somalian refugees from one of these same church groups and services are all overwhelmed.These people are from a different culure and need assistance with everything from using a toilet to operating a can opener.When the mayor pleaded with them to stop sending people they promptly marched through town,joined by a few local activists,calling him a "racist"
If these church groups are so determined to bring these people over here,they should be responsible for their care....and not us taxpayers.

Ski Man · 10-18-2005, 11:43 AM

Yeah, screw them, let someone else deal with them.

I never understood the whole, "Don't help anyone else until every problem in America is fixed" mentality. We should help those who need it most, regardless of nationality, race, or religion. To say that American poor are more valuable or more deserving of basic necessities than non-American poor is, in my mind, highly bigoted.

Mr. V · 10-18-2005, 03:47 PM

There's good and bad sides to it, as with pretty much anything else.

The Good: An influx of new people, new cultures, is one thing which has fueled the explosive growth of this country.

After a bit, a couple generations, they get Americanized, and our country is the better for their intellectual and genetic contributions.

"The Land of the Free" must be seen as more than a mere abstract notion, or else we'll lose perspective as a people.

The Bad: A drain on social services, at least until they get up and running.

If they have a decent work ethic (Mexicans do, Russians most certainly do NOT), they compete with locals for lower paying jobs.

With less economic opportunities available, they more frequently turn to crime.

FWIW, out west we have a huge Russian community (over twenty thousand in my town, thanks to the Lutherans!), and they are without peer so far as being completely worthless. The men are scamming thieves, and sell shoddily repaired used cars when they bother to work: usually they live off the earnings of their women, like the Gypsies do. Their kids pack the Juvenile Detention center).

If I lived in Laconia, I'd do what I could to keep these people out.

Not because they're immigrants, but because they're Russian immigrants.

"We will bury you," indeed.

webmaster · 10-18-2005, 03:58 PM

FYI, johnsalt and donsmith have the same IP number and appear to be the same person.

johnsalt · 10-18-2005, 04:20 PM

Yes, John Salt and Don share an internet connection in the same company, Whats your point Pal. Regards John - We both Share similar views ON THIS ISSUE!

Plus we have a static IP, is that OK?

10-18-2005, 09:37 AM	#1
Joe Kerr Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 92 Thanks: 23 Thanked 16 Times in 5 Posts	My ancestors were refugees How many of us had ancestors who immigrated to the USA or were refugees? If you (or me) were displaced or had to leave our home country where would we go? __________________ ~ Joe Kerr

10-18-2005, 04:20 PM	#6
johnsalt Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	To The Webmaster of this site Yes, John Salt and Don share an internet connection in the same company, Whats your point Pal. Regards John - We both Share similar views ON THIS ISSUE! Plus we have a static IP, is that OK?

10-18-2005, 11:13 AM	#2
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,912 Thanks: 338 Thanked 1,690 Times in 594 Posts	I don't know about you....but I'm on charity overload.We raised huge amounts of money after 9/11,the tsunami,hurricanes ,floods and earthquakes.All this while being dunned about 3rd world poverty and AIDS in Africa. These new immigrants will need food stamps,housing subsidies,welfare,medicare and fuel subsidies.......taking these already scarce resources away from those in our community.When they get arrested....you'll be paying for a court intertpreter.....the ACLU will see to that. We cheerfully support our local charities and there are many good ones that give back and provide vital services to our own friends and neighbors. Lewiston Maine accepted nearly 2,000 Somalian refugees from one of these same church groups and services are all overwhelmed.These people are from a different culure and need assistance with everything from using a toilet to operating a can opener.When the mayor pleaded with them to stop sending people they promptly marched through town,joined by a few local activists,calling him a "racist" If these church groups are so determined to bring these people over here,they should be responsible for their care....and not us taxpayers.

10-18-2005, 11:43 AM	#3
Ski Man Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 50 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah, screw them, let someone else deal with them. I never understood the whole, "Don't help anyone else until every problem in America is fixed" mentality. We should help those who need it most, regardless of nationality, race, or religion. To say that American poor are more valuable or more deserving of basic necessities than non-American poor is, in my mind, highly bigoted.

10-18-2005, 03:47 PM	#4
Mr. V Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: the left coast (Portland)and West Alton Posts: 1,415 Thanks: 65 Thanked 260 Times in 178 Posts	There's good and bad sides to it, as with pretty much anything else. The Good: An influx of new people, new cultures, is one thing which has fueled the explosive growth of this country. After a bit, a couple generations, they get Americanized, and our country is the better for their intellectual and genetic contributions. "The Land of the Free" must be seen as more than a mere abstract notion, or else we'll lose perspective as a people. The Bad: A drain on social services, at least until they get up and running. If they have a decent work ethic (Mexicans do, Russians most certainly do NOT), they compete with locals for lower paying jobs. With less economic opportunities available, they more frequently turn to crime. FWIW, out west we have a huge Russian community (over twenty thousand in my town, thanks to the Lutherans!), and they are without peer so far as being completely worthless. The men are scamming thieves, and sell shoddily repaired used cars when they bother to work: usually they live off the earnings of their women, like the Gypsies do. Their kids pack the Juvenile Detention center). If I lived in Laconia, I'd do what I could to keep these people out. Not because they're immigrants, but because they're Russian immigrants. "We will bury you," indeed.

10-18-2005, 03:58 PM	#5
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