Accident at Spindle Point July 11

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by Merrymeeting

I tire of hearing this argument, and yes, I am a waterfront property owner.

There is no boat out there that generates bigger waves or has more shoreline impact than the waves that roll in repeatedly on a windy day. On a blustery day we can have 3' rollers coming in all day that completely dwarf anything we see from a boat.

I understand what you are saying, but the coves where people typically wake surf don't have enough fetch to let 3 foot rollers build.

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by Dave R

I understand what you are saying, but the coves where people typically wake surf don't have enough fetch to let 3 foot rollers build.

After living for 10 years on a bay that was known to be one of the busier for watersports, as well as owning 4 different wakeboard boats I can say from my experience that this type of boat and the associated sports are not the real problem. (I did receive a noise complaint from Bear Island once though )

It was the cabin cruisers and the mail boat that were the worst for us. There were days where it looked like the waves coming off some of these was going to put our neighbors small bowrider on top of their dock.

[AC2717]

the argument holds no water (pun intended)
the water is owned by the state for use of the public,
now if you were on an private body of water that is different, should be end of discussion

[ITD]

Sounds like it was a terrible accident, I actually don't refer to it as a prop when I'm on board, I call it the meat grinder......

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by codeman671

After living for 10 years on a bay that was known to be one of the busier for watersports, as well as owning 4 different wakeboard boats I can say from my experience that this type of boat and the associated sports are not the real problem. (I did receive a noise complaint from Bear Island once though )

It was the cabin cruisers and the mail boat that were the worst for us. There were days where it looked like the waves coming off some of these was going to put our neighbors small bowrider on top of their dock.

I did not mean to imply that those boats are the real problem, I have no idea what the real problem is, just wanted to point out that there are places on the lake where natural 3 foot rollers are simply not possible.

[Phantom]

This is a thread about a terrible accident !

Do we have to turn this one into an erosion debate ?

.... seems to me threads can't stay on track lately!




Just sayin

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[codeman671]

Just saw a news article online, a 16 year old girl was killed in NY in a tubing accident. Driver of the boat they were being towed behind (3 girls in the water) ran the girls over.

People really are that stupid.... Glad the outcome of the ones here were better.

[Chaselady]

A good example of a driver having a boating license ( which they did) but apparently not enough practical experience. Seems like someone should have spent more time with the driver learning the safe way to tow/ retrieve before actually being allowed to. Tragic.

[SIKSUKR]

Originally Posted by codeman671

Just saw a news article online, a 16 year old girl was killed in NY in a tubing accident. Driver of the boat they were being towed behind (3 girls in the water) ran the girls over.

People really are that stupid.... Glad the outcome of the ones here were better.

According to the reports I read the boat stopped and the girls on the tube continued momentum brought them under the boat. Must have been a short line. Awfull. And it was in Connecticut.

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

According to the reports I read the boat stopped and the girls on the tube continued momentum brought them under the boat. Must have been a short line. Awfull. And it was in Connecticut.

Sorry, I saw that it was in the Long Island Sound and typed NY instead of CT.

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/l...270204721.html

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Dave R

I did not mean to imply that those boats are the real problem, I have no idea what the real problem is, just wanted to point out that there are places on the lake where natural 3 foot rollers are simply not possible.

1) Here, wakesurfing hasn't been much of a concern with regard to wakes hitting the shoreline. However, Monday, passengers willingly reclined over the transom to increase the weight aft to make the "surf" greater.

2) In the decades we're lived here, we've never seen a wake run over the top of our dock—until yesterday! (Sunday). I expected a passing cruiser to make a big wake, and took a photo of the culprit for posterity.

I was a bit slow in getting the camera ready, so it shows only the middle of the wake crashing against our shoreline. Note the height of the spray passing in front of the camera lens and the sand being roiled. Later, grasses floated by having been uprooted by this wake.

I'd placed a cement block to record strong wakes, but that same cement block appearing in this video had been moved by a previous, and unseen boat's wake.

The short video appears below, and "works-for-me":

http://vid70.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1e542765.mp4

The dock's height is presently 20-inches above the water—so, measured from trough to peak—that makes it a 3-feet, 4-inch wave when it accelerated near shore, and struck the dock.

The photo attached below shows the edge and top of the soaked dock.



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[HellRaZoR004]

Is that a ballot box? Something about election equipment.

But that's a big wake!

[codeman671]

Update to the case in CT. Its about time someone is held accountable.


http://news.yahoo.com/video/long-isl...034244465.html

[HellRaZoR004]

Originally Posted by codeman671

Update to the case in CT. Its about time someone is held accountable.


http://news.yahoo.com/video/long-isl...034244465.html

Just to clarify, this is not the tubing incident. This was a OUI case on a 50ft Sea Ray and sounds like a terrible accident based on the guys attorney. Supposedly the guy asked everyone to get out of the water and after walking around the boat started it up.

I'll reserve judgement until the toxicology report is complete and the case is closed.

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by HellRaZoR004

Just to clarify, this is not the tubing incident. This was a OUI case on a 50ft Sea Ray and sounds like a terrible accident based on the guys attorney. Supposedly the guy asked everyone to get out of the water and after walking around the boat started it up.

I'll reserve judgement until the toxicology report is complete and the case is closed.

My bad for just looking at the headline....I will eat crow on this one.