Help Save Market Basket!!!

Waterbaby · 08-21-2014, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Farfrumbehavin

If they don't have enough sense to to put their personal issues aside, do what's best for their employees, stockholders, and their customers, than their not the great company that I thought they were when this all started. There is no such thing as loyalty after all. At this point it doesn't matter who is to blame for the gridlock, it is clear that people have lost interest in the issue and have moved on and found someplace else to shop. At least we have. It's so ridiculous that I think I will just stay at Hannaford. I'm seeing some really good deals and I think they realize, that is how they can keep customers coming back.

FFB - I do not believe that people have lost interest in the issue and moved on; it is far from that point in the area that I live in (SE NH). There are a LOT of MB stores here, and people are still wholeheartedly boycotting, employees are still working, and it is still a main topic of conversation.

I am also shopping at Hannaford because their prices are the closest to MB that I can find in the Exeter area. Good deals? Sometimes. However, I don't think those will continue if MB is eliminated; my take is they are creating goodwill for the displaced MB shoppers, in hopes we will continue shopping there even if MB gets back to normal. I will admit, the employees there have been great, noticing when I (and many other people) appear "lost" because we don't know the store and helping us find things.

All of that being said, I am respectfully disagreeing with your statements and hope that your feelings are not widespread.

RailroadJoe · 08-21-2014, 07:11 AM

Same thing here. And your correct I found three people looking lost at Hannaford and we all are still MB customers.

tummyman · 08-21-2014, 08:24 AM

We are loyal MB customers for over 30 years and are fully boycotting the chain until "T" is back. However, we are concerned by the news accounts of financing problems. Paying back debt will be a major issue going forward. As a starter, although it may be unpopular with some, I say eliminate the 4% giveback to customers. It is scheduled to end at the end of the year anyway and if it will make a difference to get the stores back and profitable, it is a small price to pay. And anyway, it was ONLY just a promotion for one year. Be done with it now and let's stabilize a gem, as well as bet "ASSOCIATES" back to work !!! We had stockpiled some items from MB that were their brand, and we are almost out of all of them. Time for this to end, if the greed and vengeance can be overcome.

Rusty · 08-21-2014, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RailroadJoe

Same thing here. And your correct I found three people looking lost at Hannaford and we all are still MB customers.

How do you know they used to shop a MB and how do you know they are still MB customers. Are you asking everyone that question at Hannaford?

WakeboardMom · 08-21-2014, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

How do you know they used to shop a MB and how do you know they are still MB customers. Are you asking everyone that question at Hannaford?

At the Hannaford in my town, there are lots of folks wandering around, clearly confused and needing help from the staff. These folks aren't shy about stating that they're displaced MB customers. Many are commiserating with each other as they search for items.

I have heard similar stories from several friends who have had this experience in other Hannafords and Shaws in the Lowell/Nashua/Salem area.

RailroadJoe · 08-21-2014, 09:09 AM

To Rusty. YES, I do ask them if they were customers at MB and their reply is yes I can't find things here.. Also one person stocking shelves worked for Nabisco and informed me she normally stock MB and has to do Hannafords. I talk to people.

dave603 · 08-21-2014, 10:43 AM

It's hard to tell at the Nashua Hannaford. Just when this all started they had just begun reworking the store here.
So even the regular Hannaford customers are lost.
What they did to get extra help was at first bring in Vendors with special jackets saying they can help you find what you want. Then they brought in employees from outside the area that do not have MBs near them, mostly from Maine and New York.

There is a lot of joking about how far away you have to park to get to the store, people are calling it the " Market Basket Customer Exercise program".

jeffk · 08-21-2014, 11:40 AM

My nephew came in from Utica, New York (works for Hannaford there) to a MA store for one day. They paid him overtime. They also paid his travel expenses, for a hotel room, and meals. INSANE!

As I see this, people believe they have no other choice. If ASD stays in control, MB won't be worth shopping at or working for. Vendors are dropping off because the current management team doesn't know what it is doing.

Even if ATD comes back, there has been a lot of damage done to the business and money lost. Taking on debt to finance a buyout might require negative changes to the business.

I have read a little more history of the battle and ATD's father was a real piece of work. I can understand the animosity better. But it was insanity by the judge to give a controlling interest to the part of the family that hadn't run the business.

fatlazyless · 08-21-2014, 11:49 AM

Yesterday, August 20, 2014;

$1.69 : store brand 1/2 gal homogenized milk at Meredith Hannaford

$2.40 : store brand 1/2 gal homogenized milk at Plymouth Walmart

$1.59 : store brand canned sliced peaches at Meredith Hannaford

out of stock : store brand canned sliced peaches at Plymouth Walmart

As u probably know, the closest Market Basket is way down at Exit 20 in Tilton.

Farfrumbehavin · 08-21-2014, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Waterbaby

FFB - I do not believe that people have lost interest in the issue and moved on; it is far from that point in the area that I live in (SE NH). There are a LOT of MB stores here, and people are still wholeheartedly boycotting, employees are still working, and it is still a main topic of conversation.

I am also shopping at Hannaford because their prices are the closest to MB that I can find in the Exeter area. Good deals? Sometimes. However, I don't think those will continue if MB is eliminated; my take is they are creating goodwill for the displaced MB shoppers, in hopes we will continue shopping there even if MB gets back to normal. I will admit, the employees there have been great, noticing when I (and many other people) appear "lost" because we don't know the store and helping us find things.

All of that being said, I am respectfully disagreeing with your statements and hope that your feelings are not widespread.

I hope I'm wrong and things get back to normal for everyones sake. My comments are only a general feeling I get from just a few people in my area, when the subject came up. Based on the number of new post and what little talk I hear on the subject, it APPEARS that many people have lost interest . The general feeling I get is that most people have come to terms with the fact that it is very unlikely tha ATD will be back (opinions) and things will be back the way they were before this all happened. The decision to shop back at MB may be decided by factors other than thier great bargains. It does bother me that they have not been more loyal to there employees or customers but the decision where to shop may come down to a matter of convenience in the end. The road I drive to Hannaford is very rough but there are no traffic lights. I think many MIGHT agree that the great deals are over! Respectfully. At least we are still interested!

Greene's Basin Girl · 08-21-2014, 01:01 PM

WMUR news at noon said there may be a decision tomorrow, but who knows???

Rusty · 08-21-2014, 02:06 PM

I wonder why forum member jmen24 who is the originator of this thread hasn't said anything about how his wife is doing?

He said that his wife is a manager at Market Basket, and her job supplies 60%of their household income, all of their health insurance and $10K a year in grocery's at PAST MB prices.

That's a lot of income and benefits to lose for any family in todays economy.

Scott's Yott · 08-21-2014, 03:58 PM

I'm sorry but i still dont get this whole thing....If everyone stopped working because they didnt like their boss, then I dont think many people would be working. And if they walked off the job then they should all get fired.

tis · 08-21-2014, 05:20 PM

I still don't get it either, Scott!!! I totally agree with you. I am still amazed by the whole thing.

RailroadJoe · 08-21-2014, 06:34 PM

A lot of people don't like the Government, but they stay here.

jeffk · 08-21-2014, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott's Yott

I'm sorry but i still dont get this whole thing....If everyone stopped working because they didnt like their boss, then I dont think many people would be working. And if they walked off the job then they should all get fired.

Well, I have left several companies because I thought they took a serious wrong turn with their business strategies. As much as I could, I would voice my concerns. After it became clear no changes were coming, I left. Every one of the companies either went out of business or suffered serious business collapses.

I think it is a sign of how much MB employees were connected to the business that they would recognize a serious problem and be willing to stand up to address it.

Talking about "firing" masses of people who all walk off the job is simplistic. The business needs the experienced people as much as the people need the business for jobs. Losing a significant amount of your workforce is extremely disruptive, perhaps fatally so, to a business. To management trying to build a business it would be unthinkable. To management only interested in getting their money out of the business, maybe they just don't care.

Rusty · 08-22-2014, 08:13 AM

I think the employees of MB should have realized that the Demoulas family has been in some bizarre squabbles and now they created another one that is just as bizarre.

Read this about a Hotel that was built by the Demoulas family and never used: http://www.unionleader.com/article/2...WS02/140829663

SIKSUKR · 08-22-2014, 08:49 AM

Wow,Rusty that pretty much says it all.

tis · 08-22-2014, 05:32 PM

Well, the wedding was today. I never saw so many limos around here at one time. It must be quite an event! MPs are on duty by their house.

topwater · 08-22-2014, 05:36 PM

What are the NON WORKING market basket employees doing for money? Independently wealthy? New jobs? unemployment? This is not a wise ass question, I along with a ton of other people are curious on how they are getting by.

dave603 · 08-22-2014, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott's Yott

I'm sorry but i still dont get this whole thing....If everyone stopped working because they didnt like their boss, then I dont think many people would be working. And if they walked off the job then they should all get fired.

It's not so much that they don't like the boss, it's more that they are afraid the new bosses will destroy the business.

It's like what happened at Circuit City:
"In 2007, the starting wage for new employees was dropped from $8.75 an hour down to $7.40 an hour ($6.55 being the federal minimum wage at the time). In a press release on March 28, 2007, Circuit City announced that in a "wage management" decision in order to cut costs, it had laid off approximately 3400 better-paid associates and would re-staff the positions at the lower market-based salaries. Laid-off associates were provided severance and offered a chance to be re-hired after ten weeks at prevailing wages. The Washington Post reported interviews with management concerning the firings.

The Post later reported in May 2007 that the layoffs, and consequent loss of experienced sales staff, appeared to be "backfiring" and resulting in slower sales."

How many of those are still around?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_City

08-21-2014, 07:11 AM	#2
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	Waterbaby Same thing here. And your correct I found three people looking lost at Hannaford and we all are still MB customers.

08-21-2014, 02:06 PM	#12
Rusty Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,028 Thanks: 603 Thanked 687 Times in 425 Posts	I wonder why forum member jmen24 who is the originator of this thread hasn't said anything about how his wife is doing? He said that his wife is a manager at Market Basket, and her job supplies 60%of their household income, all of their health insurance and $10K a year in grocery's at PAST MB prices. That's a lot of income and benefits to lose for any family in todays economy. __________________ It's never crowded along the extra mile.

08-22-2014, 08:13 AM	#17
Rusty Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,028 Thanks: 603 Thanked 687 Times in 425 Posts	I think the employees of MB should have realized that the Demoulas family has been in some bizarre squabbles and now they created another one that is just as bizarre. Read this about a Hotel that was built by the Demoulas family and never used: http://www.unionleader.com/article/2...WS02/140829663 __________________ It's never crowded along the extra mile.

08-22-2014, 08:49 AM	#18
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Wow,Rusty that pretty much says it all. __________________ SIKSUKR

08-21-2014, 08:24 AM	#3
tummyman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 845 Thanks: 261 Thanked 698 Times in 246 Posts	We are loyal MB customers for over 30 years and are fully boycotting the chain until "T" is back. However, we are concerned by the news accounts of financing problems. Paying back debt will be a major issue going forward. As a starter, although it may be unpopular with some, I say eliminate the 4% giveback to customers. It is scheduled to end at the end of the year anyway and if it will make a difference to get the stores back and profitable, it is a small price to pay. And anyway, it was ONLY just a promotion for one year. Be done with it now and let's stabilize a gem, as well as bet "ASSOCIATES" back to work !!! We had stockpiled some items from MB that were their brand, and we are almost out of all of them. Time for this to end, if the greed and vengeance can be overcome.

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08-21-2014, 09:09 AM	#6
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	To Rusty. YES, I do ask them if they were customers at MB and their reply is yes I can't find things here.. Also one person stocking shelves worked for Nabisco and informed me she normally stock MB and has to do Hannafords. I talk to people.

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08-21-2014, 10:43 AM	#7
dave603 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Nashua/Winnisquam Posts: 282 Thanks: 106 Thanked 96 Times in 49 Posts	It's hard to tell at the Nashua Hannaford. Just when this all started they had just begun reworking the store here. So even the regular Hannaford customers are lost. What they did to get extra help was at first bring in Vendors with special jackets saying they can help you find what you want. Then they brought in employees from outside the area that do not have MBs near them, mostly from Maine and New York. There is a lot of joking about how far away you have to park to get to the store, people are calling it the " Market Basket Customer Exercise program".

08-21-2014, 11:40 AM	#8
jeffk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,185 Thanks: 210 Thanked 451 Times in 260 Posts	My nephew came in from Utica, New York (works for Hannaford there) to a MA store for one day. They paid him overtime. They also paid his travel expenses, for a hotel room, and meals. INSANE! As I see this, people believe they have no other choice. If ASD stays in control, MB won't be worth shopping at or working for. Vendors are dropping off because the current management team doesn't know what it is doing. Even if ATD comes back, there has been a lot of damage done to the business and money lost. Taking on debt to finance a buyout might require negative changes to the business. I have read a little more history of the battle and ATD's father was a real piece of work. I can understand the animosity better. But it was insanity by the judge to give a controlling interest to the part of the family that hadn't run the business.

08-21-2014, 11:49 AM	#9
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,849 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 303 Thanked 1,033 Times in 752 Posts	Yesterday, August 20, 2014; $1.69 : store brand 1/2 gal homogenized milk at Meredith Hannaford $2.40 : store brand 1/2 gal homogenized milk at Plymouth Walmart $1.59 : store brand canned sliced peaches at Meredith Hannaford out of stock : store brand canned sliced peaches at Plymouth Walmart As u probably know, the closest Market Basket is way down at Exit 20 in Tilton.

08-21-2014, 01:01 PM	#11
Greene's Basin Girl Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 1,515 Thanks: 394 Thanked 527 Times in 269 Posts	WMUR news at noon said there may be a decision tomorrow, but who knows???

08-21-2014, 03:58 PM	#13
Scott's Yott Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: chester nh Posts: 93 Thanks: 54 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts	I'm sorry but i still dont get this whole thing....If everyone stopped working because they didnt like their boss, then I dont think many people would be working. And if they walked off the job then they should all get fired.

08-21-2014, 05:20 PM	#14
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,814 Thanks: 759 Thanked 1,469 Times in 1,025 Posts	I still don't get it either, Scott!!! I totally agree with you. I am still amazed by the whole thing.

08-21-2014, 06:34 PM	#15
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	A lot of people don't like the Government, but they stay here.

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08-22-2014, 05:32 PM	#19
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,814 Thanks: 759 Thanked 1,469 Times in 1,025 Posts	Well, the wedding was today. I never saw so many limos around here at one time. It must be quite an event! MPs are on duty by their house.

08-22-2014, 05:36 PM	#20
topwater Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 302 Thanks: 85 Thanked 116 Times in 48 Posts	What are the NON WORKING market basket employees doing for money? Independently wealthy? New jobs? unemployment? This is not a wise ass question, I along with a ton of other people are curious on how they are getting by.