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MAXUM · 03-04-2015, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dam1960

The longer track sleds are the new rage. All the sled manufactures and dealers are pushing the longer tracks. Which are made for and encourages off trail riding.

It's what all the "cool" kids are riding.

This is true but I'd take it a step further. It's the long track with more aggressive paddles, more advanced suspension and chassis that allow for a "perception" of better handling over various terrain and power plants that put out an insane amount of power. Not that this is bad per say, but for many to go fast, many times to fast is way to tempting. Nevermind all the videos of guys doing some pretty crazy stunts that egg on those dumb enough to tempt fate.

I got nothing against the advances in technology I mean a modern day machine is a far cry from the stuff that was out 15+ years ago, but at the end of the day those that have them need to respect what they can do and use them responsibly. Sadly that's not always the case.

SAB1 · 03-04-2015, 10:08 PM

Agree maxum. You touched on a point I often make while people debate ethical and unethical shots on deer. The videos and internet give false sense of security to many.

wifi · 03-05-2015, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MAXUM

This is true but I'd take it a step further. It's the long track with more aggressive paddles, more advanced suspension and chassis that allow for a "perception" of better handling over various terrain and power plants that put out an insane amount of power. Not that this is bad per say, but for many to go fast, many times to fast is way to tempting. Nevermind all the videos of guys doing some pretty crazy stunts that egg on those dumb enough to tempt fate.

I got nothing against the advances in technology I mean a modern day machine is a far cry from the stuff that was out 15+ years ago, but at the end of the day those that have them need to respect what they can do and use them responsibly. Sadly that's not always the case.

Its the same with automobiles and drivers today. The laws of physics won't give them a court date.

nhcatrider · 03-19-2015, 10:04 PM

Being a rider of a high powered sled, I'm going to chime in on this one. I ride a f1000 snopro that has been tuned, 1.7" paddle and a ton of studs. That being said, I am well aware of the damage that I can do to a trail or someone's lawn very easily. The main purpose of my sled is to fly across lakes and satisfy a true need for speed. On the trails, it does have good manners, one just has to be cautious with the throttle to avoid digging up trails. I ride it about an even mix of lake and trail and am respectful of landowners and other users. I do think there needs to be more education in this sport as well as more enforcement. Our local club, Town Line Trail Dusters, has had its fair share of issues as well, including a destroyed electric fence last year, and numerous trail closures and reroutes over the years. Maybe better instruction from the dealership that sells the new high powered sled with a huge track on it?

upthesaukee · 03-20-2015, 08:59 AM

In two vocations, insurance and retail, we often referred to an 80/20 rule. 80% of your problems would be caused by 20% of you customers.

As I observe things going on through the snowmobile threads here, and my own observations on my own property's trail and neighboring areas, I have to think that a similar ratio applies here in snowmobiling (and probably boating). It would seem that a relatively small percentage of operators are responsible for most of the problems in our use of resources.

Sad state of affairs that a few can cause so many problems for so many.

stynx55 · 03-20-2015, 11:05 PM

I ride a so called High power sled. I have been riding 30 years and never had issues. This year I was almost taken out in Moltonboro by a dumb ass riding an Arctic cat two up and wearing an M&M's painted full face helmet. Pulled right out from by were the MSC groomer was parked, never looked, stopped or yielded way to me or my buddy who were on the main trail. My buddy was so infuriated he wanted to chase him down and let him have it. IF we had been riding fast I would have T-boned this idiot, but we were not and were able to stop. Idiots ride all type sleds. YMMV

03-20-2015, 08:59 AM	#5
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,602 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,466 Thanked 1,983 Times in 1,083 Posts	80/20 rule In two vocations, insurance and retail, we often referred to an 80/20 rule. 80% of your problems would be caused by 20% of you customers. As I observe things going on through the snowmobile threads here, and my own observations on my own property's trail and neighboring areas, I have to think that a similar ratio applies here in snowmobiling (and probably boating). It would seem that a relatively small percentage of operators are responsible for most of the problems in our use of resources. Sad state of affairs that a few can cause so many problems for so many. __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

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SAB1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tuftonboro Posts: 1,243 Thanks: 192 Thanked 329 Times in 239 Posts	Agree maxum. You touched on a point I often make while people debate ethical and unethical shots on deer. The videos and internet give false sense of security to many.

03-19-2015, 10:04 PM	#4
nhcatrider Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 167 Thanks: 19 Thanked 29 Times in 27 Posts	Being a rider of a high powered sled, I'm going to chime in on this one. I ride a f1000 snopro that has been tuned, 1.7" paddle and a ton of studs. That being said, I am well aware of the damage that I can do to a trail or someone's lawn very easily. The main purpose of my sled is to fly across lakes and satisfy a true need for speed. On the trails, it does have good manners, one just has to be cautious with the throttle to avoid digging up trails. I ride it about an even mix of lake and trail and am respectful of landowners and other users. I do think there needs to be more education in this sport as well as more enforcement. Our local club, Town Line Trail Dusters, has had its fair share of issues as well, including a destroyed electric fence last year, and numerous trail closures and reroutes over the years. Maybe better instruction from the dealership that sells the new high powered sled with a huge track on it?

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03-20-2015, 11:05 PM	#6
stynx55 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 70 Thanks: 5 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	I ride a so called High power sled. I have been riding 30 years and never had issues. This year I was almost taken out in Moltonboro by a dumb ass riding an Arctic cat two up and wearing an M&M's painted full face helmet. Pulled right out from by were the MSC groomer was parked, never looked, stopped or yielded way to me or my buddy who were on the main trail. My buddy was so infuriated he wanted to chase him down and let him have it. IF we had been riding fast I would have T-boned this idiot, but we were not and were able to stop. Idiots ride all type sleds. YMMV