Did the 1% Win at Kona?

patman · 06-19-2015, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MeredithMan

It really comes down to what is legal vs. what is obnoxious. [...] while it is legal to anchor your boat as close as you want to a complete stranger's waterfront HOME and hang out, it is also obnoxious.

That reminds me of an episode of The Sopranos. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitec...deposit_battle

Dave R · 06-22-2015, 08:54 AM

Took a cruise over by the area described in the original post on Saturday. Looks like it would be a lovely place to anchor and wade, but one would have to be WAY too close to shore to do so, IMO. I would not anchor in water shallow enough to wade from the boat there unless the houses were not there. I would not anchor in deep water and swim to shallow water there either. No one yelled at me.

thinkxingu · 06-22-2015, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave R

Looks like it would be a lovely place to anchor and wade, but one would have to be WAY too close to shore to do so, IMO. I would not anchor in water shallow enough to wade from the boat there unless the houses were not there. I would not anchor in deep water and swim to shallow water there either.

OP specifically mentioned 8-10' of water, "no wading like Braun," but that it was nice and sandy.

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Dave R · 06-22-2015, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkxingu

OP specifically mentioned 8-10' of water, "no wading like Braun," but that it was nice and sandy.

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Yup, that's why I specified wading. If you are going to anchor in 8 to 10 feet of water why does the sandy bottom matter? Mucky bottoms hold the anchor just as well.

thinkxingu · 06-22-2015, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave R

Yup, that's why I specified wading. If you are going to anchor in 8 to 10 feet of water why does the sandy bottom matter? Mucky bottoms hold the anchor just as well.

I took it to mean that you thought the OP was too close to the homes. If that was not your intention, I apologize.

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Rich · 06-22-2015, 10:20 AM

Because I posted an idea in this thread, I also want to say:

I don't condone being obnoxious anywhere on the lake.

But there are some places on the lake where it may be ok to play loud music, etc. These places would be somewhere without others nearby. 'Others' here mean other boaters, homes, people on a beach, etc. Where are these places located? It depends on the situation at the time. If you're the first boater at a location and no one else is there, and there are no homes are nearby, then perhaps you can play your music loudly, or do other 'obnoxious' things. But the moment another boater shows up, or you are made aware that there is a home nearby, you should turn down your music (no matter the type of music, or whatever you were doing) and be polite.

To the home owners that say that people should not anchor right in front of their home as they spent a lot of money to buy that home, or to pay the high taxes, I still say that the law is correct in that anyone should be able to anchor, even feet from their shore/raft/dock. But the boater should act accordingly and be polite and respectful. Not that I would do it.

To me it's the same thing as if I wanted to park my car at the curb in front of their home. As long as I wasn't doing anything illegal, nor being disrespectful, then there is no reason someone should ask me to leave (yes, peering into people's windows is not being polite and could be considered illegal). If I wanted to get out and sit in the back of my pickup truck and enjoy lunch with my family, then I have the right to be there (unless it's a no parking zone, etc.). So why can't I enjoy the lake wherever I go if I'm not being a pest (and my quiet presence can't be considered 'being a pest').

I also don't assume that someone that has a property (nice or not) on or near the lake are self-absorbed, arrogant nor an A.H. in any way. The homeowner's own actions could only make me come to this conclusion.

NOTE: I don't own a pickup truck, and I always try to be polite, friendly and helpful.

PaugusBayFireFighter · 06-22-2015, 10:36 AM

You can anchor off my property anytime you want. Swim over and join us!
If you act like an ass hat you'll be treated like one. Simple as that. Mutual respect.
I wouldn't bother yelling at an obnoxious boater more than once. Just like the geese, you'll be moved along. Your choice how that happens.

It's a big lake, we should all be able to have fun without ruining another's.

Rich · 06-22-2015, 10:57 AM

Thanks!

And if you see my boat, swim or boat over and say hi! We like making new friends!

If we're making lunch, or having snacks, as long as we have enough to share, you're also welcome!

It goes both ways!

PaugusBayFireFighter · 06-22-2015, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich

Thanks!

And if you see my boat, swim or boat over and say hi! We like making new friends!

If we're making lunch, or having snacks, as long as we have enough to share, you're also welcome!

It goes both ways!

That's it! Summers are too short. Making friends and sharing is what makes it all worth while. If you look due north from the sand bar in Paugus you'll see our crowd...everyone is always welcome.
Life's too short...play hard!

06-22-2015, 10:20 AM	#6
Rich Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Derry / Gilford Posts: 1,246 Thanks: 74 Thanked 345 Times in 235 Posts	Because I posted an idea in this thread, I also want to say: I don't condone being obnoxious anywhere on the lake. But there are some places on the lake where it may be ok to play loud music, etc. These places would be somewhere without others nearby. 'Others' here mean other boaters, homes, people on a beach, etc. Where are these places located? It depends on the situation at the time. If you're the first boater at a location and no one else is there, and there are no homes are nearby, then perhaps you can play your music loudly, or do other 'obnoxious' things. But the moment another boater shows up, or you are made aware that there is a home nearby, you should turn down your music (no matter the type of music, or whatever you were doing) and be polite. To the home owners that say that people should not anchor right in front of their home as they spent a lot of money to buy that home, or to pay the high taxes, I still say that the law is correct in that anyone should be able to anchor, even feet from their shore/raft/dock. But the boater should act accordingly and be polite and respectful. Not that I would do it. To me it's the same thing as if I wanted to park my car at the curb in front of their home. As long as I wasn't doing anything illegal, nor being disrespectful, then there is no reason someone should ask me to leave (yes, peering into people's windows is not being polite and could be considered illegal). If I wanted to get out and sit in the back of my pickup truck and enjoy lunch with my family, then I have the right to be there (unless it's a no parking zone, etc.). So why can't I enjoy the lake wherever I go if I'm not being a pest (and my quiet presence can't be considered 'being a pest'). I also don't assume that someone that has a property (nice or not) on or near the lake are self-absorbed, arrogant nor an A.H. in any way. The homeowner's own actions could only make me come to this conclusion. NOTE: I don't own a pickup truck, and I always try to be polite, friendly and helpful. __________________ Don't listen to me, obviously I don't understand what I'm talking about! Let's help each other save time and money: WinniGas.com

06-22-2015, 10:57 AM	#8
Rich Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Derry / Gilford Posts: 1,246 Thanks: 74 Thanked 345 Times in 235 Posts	Thanks! And if you see my boat, swim or boat over and say hi! We like making new friends! If we're making lunch, or having snacks, as long as we have enough to share, you're also welcome! It goes both ways! __________________ Don't listen to me, obviously I don't understand what I'm talking about! Let's help each other save time and money: WinniGas.com

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06-22-2015, 08:54 AM	#2
Dave R Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,985 Thanks: 246 Thanked 744 Times in 444 Posts	Took a cruise over by the area described in the original post on Saturday. Looks like it would be a lovely place to anchor and wade, but one would have to be WAY too close to shore to do so, IMO. I would not anchor in water shallow enough to wade from the boat there unless the houses were not there. I would not anchor in deep water and swim to shallow water there either. No one yelled at me.

06-22-2015, 10:36 AM	#7
PaugusBayFireFighter Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 837 Thanks: 361 Thanked 674 Times in 264 Posts	You can anchor off my property anytime you want. Swim over and join us! If you act like an ass hat you'll be treated like one. Simple as that. Mutual respect. I wouldn't bother yelling at an obnoxious boater more than once. Just like the geese, you'll be moved along. Your choice how that happens. It's a big lake, we should all be able to have fun without ruining another's.

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