Trying to design a carport for our boat

DUSTOFF · 11-01-2015, 07:11 PM

I'm trying to come up with a decent design for a carport attached to our existing garage.

The problem is that the boat's tower is taller than the existing garage roofline. I'm not quite sure how to make it work to make it look good and keep the roof functional to shed snow.

I'm hoping you guys might have some ideas that might work to keep this boat under cover for the winter.

I will attach a photo of the boat next to the garage and a drawing my father-in-law came up with. (I don't like the way he has the roof overhanging the front and back of the garage)

8gv · 11-01-2015, 07:14 PM

Remove tower.

DUSTOFF · 11-01-2015, 07:44 PM

If it were only for winter storage that would definitely be the way to go.

I figure if we build a permanent carport structure we might as well use it year-round, so I don't want to have to reinstall and remove the tower every time we use the boat.

TheProfessor · 11-01-2015, 07:53 PM

Should take into consideration of the overall architecture of home.
Will any addition make this home look odd?

All would probably be a lot less money just to store the boat at a marina.

If that is not applicable then build a new garage on property for the boat.

Or you could add to the current garage perpendicular with door/entry on side with windows facing front.

8gv · 11-01-2015, 09:33 PM

Contract welder to redesign tower to allow it to fold down.

More garage? The taxman cometh...

Kamper · 11-02-2015, 07:49 AM

Short roof in the front, long roof in the back?

ishoot308 · 11-02-2015, 08:31 AM

Between the increased taxes and building cost, you could store your boat at a marina for many years for a lot less...

Dan

rowinghelmet · 11-02-2015, 08:50 AM

What about matching the roofline on the front and then bumping it out in the back.

DUSTOFF · 11-02-2015, 09:44 AM

I didn't realize taxes would go up for a non-enclosed carport?

LIforrelaxin · 11-02-2015, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DUSTOFF

I didn't realize taxes would go up for a non-enclosed carport?

You will want to check with your town on that..... As it adds usability, I would think you would see some increase... however it might be minimal.....

My honest opinion here, is shrinkwrap the boat for the winter, make the parking pad a bit longer to allow the boat to set behind your side door, and your good to go....

That way you don't have to worry about how your carport might look.....

If you don't like Shrinkwrap... you can always make your own winter cover for the boat......

AC2717 · 11-02-2015, 10:16 AM

what about a a garage enclosure height is good full surround with doors. like you can get at BJ's or something like that. the Tarp like car port with PVC structure

jbolty · 11-02-2015, 10:20 AM

My 2 cents.

Make the tower removable or get a different one that folds

I can see wanting to match the roof line but does it need to be attached to the house? If there's a little separation the differing heights would be less obvious.

What about building it off the edge of the driveway? In other words, back the boat up another 15 feet on to some gravel.

What about a canvas structure? They make some that look ok and the top would probably hold up for about two years.

Winnisquamer · 11-02-2015, 02:57 PM

Make sure its of the right height before altering that tower as welders arn't cheap and neither are towers. With my tower folded down it is still over 7 feet tall, not much only a few inches but that will make or break you. Depending on your garage it may or may not fit. I have found for mine I have to let the air out of the tires for it to fit in a "standard" 7' garage door. Its tough for us to guess how tall that boat sits off the ground.

At second look the windshield looks like it wouldn't fit in the garage for height. I could be wrong though. Just going by looks of the photo.

SAB1 · 11-02-2015, 03:28 PM

Sell the boat and buy one that works out. Other than that buy one of the Quonset style sheds and back the boat down back.

upthesaukee · 11-02-2015, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DUSTOFF

I didn't realize taxes would go up for a non-enclosed carport?

My garage has 3 carports, one left, one right, and one rear. The left and right ones were just right for 2 I/O's on trailers. The back one was for 4 snowmobiles, and there is a small sliding barn door to allow access into the garage. Our tax info shows the two car garage with upstairs storage, and has separate values for the carports, about $500 per carport.

I live here... I am always Upthesaukee.

secondcurve · 11-02-2015, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DUSTOFF

I'm trying to come up with a decent design for a carport attached to our existing garage.

The problem is that the boat's tower is taller than the existing garage roofline. I'm not quite sure how to make it work to make it look good and keep the roof functional to shed snow.

I'm hoping you guys might have some ideas that might work to keep this boat under cover for the winter.

I will attach a photo of the boat next to the garage and a drawing my father-in-law came up with. (I don't like the way he has the roof overhanging the front and back of the garage)

DUSTOFF:

How about DUSTINGOFF your checkbook and hiring an architect?

brk-lnt · 11-02-2015, 10:47 PM

You could always make the ground lower...

Seriously, rip up that blacktop, excavate down about 5' and make it a gentle downslope. Plenty of room to get the boat in that way, and you'd be able to maintain a continuous roofline.

SAMIAM · 11-03-2015, 05:07 AM

Kamper and Rowinghelmet have it right. Match the roofline in the front and bring the boat in from the back .

TiltonBB · 11-03-2015, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by brk-lnt

You could always make the ground lower...

Seriously, rip up that blacktop, excavate down about 5' and make it a gentle downslope. Plenty of room to get the boat in that way, and you'd be able to maintain a continuous roofline.

And........... have a garage withh flooding and erosion problems.

thinkxingu · 11-03-2015, 05:34 AM

How much would it cost to store the boat somewhere or have it shrink wrapped? We pay around $700, which includes pickup and delivery and basic service (oil/outboard lube). Not sure how much it would cost to build carport, but if you invested the money in a decent account, you could probably break even?

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brk-lnt · 11-03-2015, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB

And........... have a garage withh flooding and erosion problems.

Sure, if you just half-ass it and don't account for drainage. There are plenty of houses in this general area that have driveways with significant slopes that do not flood or cause erosion problems. It can very easily be handled, but you would want a proper site survey and excavation plan.

ApS · 11-06-2015, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 8gv

Remove tower.

Too much work.

I'll suggest welding hinges to the forward attachments and use pins for the rear attachments...

Use these ¼" pins:

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Winnisquamer · 11-06-2015, 11:10 AM

Just keep in mind how much force that tower is under when your using it for what it is actually made for. I can't confidently say 1/4" pins are enough to support that with out eventually being sheared off. Even on my tower which is much more beefy I can hear it creaking and making noise when under load.

APS what are they rated for?

ApS · 11-07-2015, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Winnisquamer

Just keep in mind how much force that tower is under when your using it for what it is actually made for. I can't confidently say 1/4" pins are enough to support that with out eventually being sheared off. Even on my tower which is much more beefy I can hear it creaking and making noise when under load.

APS what are they rated for?

With the rear mounts designed to be "bottomed-out", the ¼" pin wouldn't be "in-shear", unless the tower was being pulled forward.

If there's any question to their strength, a solid pin could be used.

Even under that unlikely circumstance , the pin would likely be reusable, whereas the tower material would likely be torn. It's the two front hinges that would need to be "beefy".

To keep the pins secure when back at the carport, the pins could be retained on a tether:

KDL · 11-08-2015, 06:47 PM

Start the new roof at the mid point of the existing gable end and carry it back far enough to cover the boat. Keep it high enough to back under with the tower up. Front half would be a one sided shed roof, back half a typical gable roof. Put up the roof you need to make using and storing the boat easy. You won't regret it.

11-01-2015, 07:11 PM	#1
DUSTOFF Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: NH Posts: 39 Thanks: 4 Thanked 12 Times in 7 Posts	Trying to design a carport for our boat I'm trying to come up with a decent design for a carport attached to our existing garage. The problem is that the boat's tower is taller than the existing garage roofline. I'm not quite sure how to make it work to make it look good and keep the roof functional to shed snow. I'm hoping you guys might have some ideas that might work to keep this boat under cover for the winter. I will attach a photo of the boat next to the garage and a drawing my father-in-law came up with. (I don't like the way he has the roof overhanging the front and back of the garage) Attached Images Last edited by DUSTOFF; 11-01-2015 at 07:12 PM. Reason: moving photo

11-02-2015, 08:31 AM	#7
ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,240 Thanks: 2,386 Thanked 5,282 Times in 2,054 Posts	Between the increased taxes and building cost, you could store your boat at a marina for many years for a lot less... Dan __________________ It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!

11-02-2015, 09:44 AM	#9
DUSTOFF Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: NH Posts: 39 Thanks: 4 Thanked 12 Times in 7 Posts	Taxes I didn't realize taxes would go up for a non-enclosed carport?

11-02-2015, 10:16 AM	#11
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,574 Thanks: 753 Thanked 354 Times in 266 Posts	what about a a garage enclosure height is good full surround with doors. like you can get at BJ's or something like that. the Tarp like car port with PVC structure __________________ Capt. of the "No Worries"

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brk-lnt Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: South Down Shores Posts: 1,944 Thanks: 544 Thanked 570 Times in 335 Posts	You could always make the ground lower... Seriously, rip up that blacktop, excavate down about 5' and make it a gentle downslope. Plenty of room to get the boat in that way, and you'd be able to maintain a continuous roofline. __________________ [insert witty phrase here]

11-01-2015, 07:14 PM	#2
8gv Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,093 Thanks: 64 Thanked 744 Times in 478 Posts	Remove tower.

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11-01-2015, 07:44 PM	#3
DUSTOFF Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: NH Posts: 39 Thanks: 4 Thanked 12 Times in 7 Posts	If it were only for winter storage that would definitely be the way to go. I figure if we build a permanent carport structure we might as well use it year-round, so I don't want to have to reinstall and remove the tower every time we use the boat.

11-01-2015, 07:53 PM	#4
TheProfessor Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,120 Thanks: 17 Thanked 341 Times in 206 Posts	Should take into consideration of the overall architecture of home. Will any addition make this home look odd? All would probably be a lot less money just to store the boat at a marina. If that is not applicable then build a new garage on property for the boat. Or you could add to the current garage perpendicular with door/entry on side with windows facing front.

11-01-2015, 09:33 PM	#5
8gv Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,093 Thanks: 64 Thanked 744 Times in 478 Posts	Contract welder to redesign tower to allow it to fold down. More garage? The taxman cometh...

11-02-2015, 07:49 AM	#6
Kamper Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Thornton's Ferry Posts: 1,306 Thanks: 67 Thanked 171 Times in 127 Posts	Short roof in the front, long roof in the back?

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11-02-2015, 08:50 AM	#8
rowinghelmet Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 60 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 20 Posts	What about matching the roofline on the front and then bumping it out in the back.

11-02-2015, 10:20 AM	#12
jbolty Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 663 Thanks: 320 Thanked 251 Times in 150 Posts	My 2 cents. Make the tower removable or get a different one that folds I can see wanting to match the roof line but does it need to be attached to the house? If there's a little separation the differing heights would be less obvious. What about building it off the edge of the driveway? In other words, back the boat up another 15 feet on to some gravel. What about a canvas structure? They make some that look ok and the top would probably hold up for about two years.

11-02-2015, 02:57 PM	#13
Winnisquamer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Winnisquam Posts: 408 Thanks: 72 Thanked 115 Times in 73 Posts	Make sure its of the right height before altering that tower as welders arn't cheap and neither are towers. With my tower folded down it is still over 7 feet tall, not much only a few inches but that will make or break you. Depending on your garage it may or may not fit. I have found for mine I have to let the air out of the tires for it to fit in a "standard" 7' garage door. Its tough for us to guess how tall that boat sits off the ground. At second look the windshield looks like it wouldn't fit in the garage for height. I could be wrong though. Just going by looks of the photo.

11-02-2015, 03:28 PM	#14
SAB1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tuftonboro Posts: 1,230 Thanks: 190 Thanked 320 Times in 235 Posts	Sell the boat and buy one that works out. Other than that buy one of the Quonset style sheds and back the boat down back.

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11-03-2015, 05:07 AM	#18
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,893 Thanks: 334 Thanked 1,675 Times in 585 Posts	Kamper and Rowinghelmet have it right. Match the roofline in the front and bring the boat in from the back .

11-03-2015, 05:34 AM	#20
thinkxingu Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 6,229 Thanks: 1,171 Thanked 2,055 Times in 1,275 Posts	How much would it cost to store the boat somewhere or have it shrink wrapped? We pay around $700, which includes pickup and delivery and basic service (oil/outboard lube). Not sure how much it would cost to build carport, but if you invested the money in a decent account, you could probably break even? Sent from my XT1528 using Tapatalk

11-06-2015, 11:10 AM	#23
Winnisquamer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Winnisquam Posts: 408 Thanks: 72 Thanked 115 Times in 73 Posts	Just keep in mind how much force that tower is under when your using it for what it is actually made for. I can't confidently say 1/4" pins are enough to support that with out eventually being sheared off. Even on my tower which is much more beefy I can hear it creaking and making noise when under load. APS what are they rated for?

11-08-2015, 06:47 PM	#25
KDL Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts	Start the new roof at the mid point of the existing gable end and carry it back far enough to cover the boat. Keep it high enough to back under with the tower up. Front half would be a one sided shed roof, back half a typical gable roof. Put up the roof you need to make using and storing the boat easy. You won't regret it.