Meaning of term "rafting"

8gv · 03-09-2016, 10:44 PM

So two boats together are ok in a "no rafting zone", right?

If you are anchored and two boats show up to raft close to you, how do you sort it out?

secondcurve · 03-10-2016, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 8gv

So two boats together are ok in a "no rafting zone", right?

If you are anchored and two boats show up to raft close to you, how do you sort it out?

That is the conundrum. People start arriving after you drop anchor, many of whom likely don't fully understand the law and all of a sudden your boat is anchored illegally.

VitaBene · 03-10-2016, 08:15 AM

Someone here (Dave R maybe) suggested pics or oven video as proof that you were there first. Good idea!

Phantom · 03-10-2016, 08:26 AM

This has always bothered me too ........ I am STILL confused (even with the follow up post) -- reading it sounds like a bunch of political double speak.

Is two boats legally a Raft ............... simple question (yes/no)

I have always read the Law as three constitute a raft and the confusion amongst typical boaters is that it is two or more .... am I upside down in my thinking?

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tis · 03-10-2016, 08:53 AM

Is two boats legally a Raft ............... simple question (yes/no)

Phantom, two boats are a raft but they are legal in a no rafting zone. Three boats or more are a raft but are NOT legal in a no rafting zone. Hope that helps your confusion.

Rich · 03-10-2016, 10:17 AM

The key is the post by the MP, it is very clear!

As he stated, the "No Rafting Zone" NRZ is actually misnamed. It's not that you can't raft, it's that there are restrictions to how you can raft! It should be renamed "RRZ" (Restricted Rafting Zone).

In a NRZ, you must be 50 feet from any boats that are rafted. This goes for the non rafting boats too. You also must be 150 feet from shore, unless otherwise stated (i.e.: Braun Bay). Two boats can raft together in a NRZ, but more than two are not allowed.

The law doesn't state any escape for someone that 'was there first'. So if someone comes up and anchors (or swings on their anchor, or drifts) into that 50 ft zone, both of you are violating the law.

I find it helpful to discuss laws like this one, it helps to clarify the laws in my mind and acts as a refresher and to cement them there.

Now.. if a particular NRZ is under legal debate, well that's a whole other thread! LOL

HellRaZoR004 · 03-10-2016, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich

The key is the post by the MP, it is very clear!

As he stated, the "No Rafting Zone" NRZ is actually misnamed. It's not that you can't raft, it's that there are restrictions to how you can raft! It should be renamed "RRZ" (Restricted Rafting Zone).

In a NRZ, you must be 50 feet from any boats that are rafted. This goes for the non rafting boats too. You also must be 150 feet from shore, unless otherwise stated (i.e.: Braun Bay). Two boats can raft together in a NRZ, but more than two are not allowed.

The law doesn't state any escape for someone that 'was there first'. So if someone comes up and anchors (or swings on their anchor, or drifts) into that 50 ft zone, both of you are violating the law.

I find it helpful to discuss laws like this one, it helps to clarify the laws in my mind and acts as a refresher and to cement them there.

Now.. if a particular NRZ is under legal debate, well that's a whole other thread! LOL

25' from non-rafting boats (i.e. single boat)

Rich · 03-10-2016, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by HellRaZoR004

25' from non-rafting boats (i.e. single boat)

Yes sorry, if no one is rafting, then you can be 25 ft from each other. But if there is a Raft of two boats, everyone must be 50 ft from that Raft, even single boats.

Woodsy · 03-10-2016, 11:19 AM

I get to the sandbar early and take a few pix or a quick video with my cell phone... that way if people come in later.... Its on them not me. That being said the MP guys do their best to balance the law with "having fun".

Good job to them!

Woodsy

03-10-2016, 08:26 AM	#4
Phantom Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin, Ma / Gilford Posts: 1,934 Thanks: 450 Thanked 605 Times in 341 Posts	This has always bothered me too ........ I am STILL confused (even with the follow up post) -- reading it sounds like a bunch of political double speak. Is two boats legally a Raft ............... simple question (yes/no) I have always read the Law as three constitute a raft and the confusion amongst typical boaters is that it is two or more .... am I upside down in my thinking? . __________________ *A bad day on the Big Lake (although I've never had one) - Still beats a day at the office!!*

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Rich Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Derry / Gilford Posts: 1,246 Thanks: 74 Thanked 345 Times in 235 Posts	The key is the post by the MP, it is very clear! As he stated, the "No Rafting Zone" NRZ is actually misnamed. It's not that you can't raft, it's that there are restrictions to how you can raft! It should be renamed "RRZ" (Restricted Rafting Zone). In a NRZ, you must be 50 feet from any boats that are rafted. This goes for the non rafting boats too. You also must be 150 feet from shore, unless otherwise stated (i.e.: Braun Bay). Two boats can raft together in a NRZ, but more than two are not allowed. The law doesn't state any escape for someone that 'was there first'. So if someone comes up and anchors (or swings on their anchor, or drifts) into that 50 ft zone, both of you are violating the law. I find it helpful to discuss laws like this one, it helps to clarify the laws in my mind and acts as a refresher and to cement them there. Now.. if a particular NRZ is under legal debate, well that's a whole other thread! LOL __________________ Don't listen to me, obviously I don't understand what I'm talking about! Let's help each other save time and money: WinniGas.com

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Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,966 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	Take picx I get to the sandbar early and take a few pix or a quick video with my cell phone... that way if people come in later.... Its on them not me. That being said the MP guys do their best to balance the law with "having fun". Good job to them! Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

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8gv Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,113 Thanks: 64 Thanked 748 Times in 482 Posts	So two boats together are ok in a "no rafting zone", right? If you are anchored and two boats show up to raft close to you, how do you sort it out?

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VitaBene Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 3,595 Thanks: 1,640 Thanked 1,641 Times in 844 Posts	Someone here (Dave R maybe) suggested pics or oven video as proof that you were there first. Good idea!

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tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,759 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,462 Times in 1,018 Posts	Is two boats legally a Raft ............... simple question (yes/no) Phantom, two boats are a raft but they are legal in a no rafting zone. Three boats or more are a raft but are NOT legal in a no rafting zone. Hope that helps your confusion.

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