Hermit Woods Winery

Winnisquamer · 08-17-2016, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Major

I agree that everyone is different. I disagree that everyone is equal. Some people are smarter, some people work harder, some people were raised under better circumstances. Nothing in life is guaranteed. Everyone should have an equal opportunity to succeed, and I think in America, we come as close to that ideal as possible.

Creating an artificial minimum wage does nothing but damage the economy. My grandparents, parents, uncles, brothers and I have owned small businesses through the years, and if forced to pay a high minimum wage, we would not have been successful. We're not multimillionaires, but successful small business owners who create entry level and working wage jobs for individuals willing to work hard.

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Bingo! Except I don't think everyone is given an equal opportunity anymore, with all due respect affirmative action and hiring based off of diversity is not equal for the people who don't fit those demographics. In my opinion it should be based off the best applicant regardless of anything but that's a different topic. No more asking for race, sex, or age etc on any applications.

The everyone is equal thought is a problem in today's society. I was taught you want something go work for it, nothings handed to you. And if you don't want it bad enough someone else will surely take it. Sure on a moral level we are all people and equal and all that junk, but when discussing business and pay a surgeon and a icecream scooper are not equal, and should not be compensated as equals.

As far as Hermit making a political statement, look how Chick-filet did after they made their homophobic comments a while back. In some states I could see that kind of transparency used as a marketing scheme.

fatlazyless · 08-17-2016, 10:48 AM

With stores in New Hampton, Meredith, and Center Harbor, that's probably a lot of competition from the state liquor stores for the Hermit Woods store in Meredith. Believe state liquor pays about $12.25/hr for starting employees. State Liquor has a huge selection of wine at very reasonable prices, too.

Have you been in the new state liquor stores in either New Hampton or Plymouth.....both are very large! The state liquor in Ashland, at exit 24, has closed permanently......probably due to the closeness of the new huge store in Plymouth.

You know, if you do not drink adult beverages, or play any lottery games, there is absolutely nothing for you in a state liquor store, and NH has about 78 stores across the state. Maybe the state could hold mental health counseling clinics, every Monday from 2-3:30, in the back of the state liquor stores, for the rest of us who never, ever, go inside a state liquor store ...... as a secret way to build the business and create new customers.

Everyone who has no reason to go to a state liquor store ...... please raise your hand .....you know who you are.

For about $3.25, Walmart sells a 1 1/2 litre of white wine called Golden Oak or something, and I have had the same bottle in the back of the frig for about four years now......think I should use it for cleaning the stainless steel kitchen sink......ho-ho-ho-ho! .... is cheaper than stainless sink cleaner ....and tastes much better too!

noreast · 08-17-2016, 11:35 AM

I commend them for paying the employee's as much as they can and still have a working business model, If they indeed do, but to say there is a surcharge for that is absurd. There obviously pandering, other wise they would charge what they need to charge and keep It to themselves. I guess they've chosen which 50% they are targeting.

Newbiesaukee · 08-17-2016, 11:52 AM

Regardless of one's political views, in my opinion, it was a poor business decision to alienate customers by stating the "surcharge." My politics are probably a little left on some issues than most of the Forum, but I did find this policy statement a little too self-serving.

To me, it is similar to hanging a political poster. It would rarely be a good business decision even though the business has every right to do so.

And if the business is not doing so well, if it goes "belly-up" it is of little help to workers regardless of minimum wage.

Pineedles · 08-17-2016, 01:34 PM

This kinda reminds me of the VK thread and not accepting Credit Cards.

08-17-2016, 10:48 AM	#2
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,793 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 301 Thanked 1,024 Times in 745 Posts	With stores in New Hampton, Meredith, and Center Harbor, that's probably a lot of competition from the state liquor stores for the Hermit Woods store in Meredith. Believe state liquor pays about $12.25/hr for starting employees. State Liquor has a huge selection of wine at very reasonable prices, too. Have you been in the new state liquor stores in either New Hampton or Plymouth.....both are very large! The state liquor in Ashland, at exit 24, has closed permanently......probably due to the closeness of the new huge store in Plymouth. You know, if you do not drink adult beverages, or play any lottery games, there is absolutely nothing for you in a state liquor store, and NH has about 78 stores across the state. Maybe the state could hold mental health counseling clinics, every Monday from 2-3:30, in the back of the state liquor stores, for the rest of us who never, ever, go inside a state liquor store ...... as a secret way to build the business and create new customers. Everyone who has no reason to go to a state liquor store ...... please raise your hand .....you know who you are. For about $3.25, Walmart sells a 1 1/2 litre of white wine called Golden Oak or something, and I have had the same bottle in the back of the frig for about four years now......think I should use it for cleaning the stainless steel kitchen sink......ho-ho-ho-ho! .... is cheaper than stainless sink cleaner ....and tastes much better too! __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake! Last edited by fatlazyless; 08-17-2016 at 12:06 PM.

08-17-2016, 11:52 AM	#4
Newbiesaukee Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Coral Gables, winter; Long Island, summer Posts: 1,355 Thanks: 950 Thanked 573 Times in 298 Posts	Regardless of one's political views, in my opinion, it was a poor business decision to alienate customers by stating the "surcharge." My politics are probably a little left on some issues than most of the Forum, but I did find this policy statement a little too self-serving. To me, it is similar to hanging a political poster. It would rarely be a good business decision even though the business has every right to do so. And if the business is not doing so well, if it goes "belly-up" it is of little help to workers regardless of minimum wage. __________________ "You're only young once, but you can be immature forever."

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noreast Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 648 Thanks: 316 Thanked 120 Times in 93 Posts	I commend them for paying the employee's as much as they can and still have a working business model, If they indeed do, but to say there is a surcharge for that is absurd. There obviously pandering, other wise they would charge what they need to charge and keep It to themselves. I guess they've chosen which 50% they are targeting.

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