Trump visits Laconia tonight, 9/15/16

[fatlazyless]

....certainly a photogenic, well lighted and great looking photo of everyone in the room in Concord, NH, credit the Daily Mail newspaper in Great Britain .... as everyone knows....a photo is worth a thousand words, and that is one good photograph!

[ITD]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

....certainly a photogenic, well lighted and great looking photo of everyone in the room in Concord, NH, credit the Daily Mail newspaper in Great Britain .... as everyone knows....a photo is worth a thousand words, and that is one good photograph!

Contrast that photo to the crowd for Trump..... a picture is worth a thousand words.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/donald...ny-supporters/

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by ITD

Contrast that photo to the crowd for Trump..... a picture is worth a thousand words.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/donald...ny-supporters/

You're as bad as the media I teach my students not to be manipulated by.

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[ITD]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

You're as bad as the media I teach my students not to be manipulated by.

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Ah, but I provided a link showing where the picture came from, where's your link? Is that even NH? Date of picture??? Question authority, especially teachers.

[Woodguy53]

The picture was cropped from a Buffet Sponsored event at a High School in Omaha - local TV reported a crowd of "hundreds" . Date of event - Aug 1, 2016

[ITD]

Originally Posted by Woodguy53

The picture was cropped from a Buffet Sponsored event at a High School in Omaha - local TV reported a crowd of "hundreds" Attachment 12332. Date of event - Aug 1, 2016

Thanks Woodguy53, as I suspected.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by ITD

Ah, but I provided a link showing where the picture came from, where's your link? Is that even NH? Date of picture??? Question authority, especially teachers.

Yes, question--especially pictures comparing different types of events in an attempt to prove a (false) point.

What's cool about this is that you did the same thing the media did last fall with pics of Sanders and Clinton rallies and the reports of debate 'winners' that contradicted actual polls.

I don't care what my students come to believe--not a single one of them knows what my personal beliefs are--but I care very much that they're educated enough to spot manipulative rhetoric before making their decisions.

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[gwhite13]

Putin's puppet, I think I hear a song...

[ITD]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Yes, question--especially pictures comparing different types of events in an attempt to prove a (false) point.

What's cool about this is that you did the same thing the media did last fall with pics of Sanders and Clinton rallies and the reports of debate 'winners' that contradicted actual polls.

I don't care what my students come to believe--not a single one of them knows what my personal beliefs are--but I care very much that they're educated enough to spot manipulative rhetoric before making their decisions.

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So was your picture from NH or not? Simple question, because the way you constructed your post it sure seemed like you were posting a picture from NH, truth matters.

Also the politician books the "type of event" to fit the expected turnout at said event. Hillary has been appearing other organisation's rallies for as a guest for most of her large turnouts, her events have been more like the one APS posted. Trump on the other hand has been attracting large crowds.

You call it manipulation, I see truth.

Oh, and I would much rather see you teach your students to ignore the rhetoric completely and go to the source, which is very easy to do now days. Trump's speeches are easily found via youtube in their entirety, as are Hilary's. And, like event attendance the differences are astounding and very unlike what is portrayed in the news.

Edit: Woodguy53 post where the picture is from, I hope you are more honest with your students.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by ITD

So was your picture from NH or not? Simple question, because the way you constructed your post it sure seemed like you were posting a picture from NH, truth matters.

Also the politician books the "type of event" to fit the expected turnout at said event. Hillary has been appearing other organisation's rallies for as a guest for most of her large turnouts, her events have been more like the one APS posted. Trump on the other hand has been attracting large crowds.

You call it manipulation, I see truth.

Oh, and I would much rather see you teach your students to ignore the rhetoric completely and go to the source, which is very easy to do now days. Trump's speeches are easily found via youtube in their entirety, as are Hilary's. And, like event attendance the differences are astounding and very unlike what is portrayed in the news.

Edit: Woodguy53 post where the picture is from, I hope you are more honest with your students.

No, no, no--you implied Trump's crowds are destroying Clinton's by comparing two totally different scenarios, one of a rally in a gym, the other of a town hall forum in what appears to be a small museum or something. That's what the manipulative media does everyday and one of the reasons America is in the pickle it is. Now, you may be correct in that Trump is/will draw bigger crowds in NH, but to make that case you must (should) do it honestly and not just with cherry-picked images that feed your narrative.

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[ITD]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

No, no, no--you implied Trump's crowds are destroying Clinton's by comparing two totally different scenarios, one of a rally in a gym, the other of a town hall forum in what appears to be a small museum or something. That's what the manipulative media does everyday and one of the reasons America is in the pickle it is. Now, you may be correct in that Trump is/will draw bigger crowds in NH, but to make that case you must (should) do it honestly and not just with cherry-picked images that feed your narrative.

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If you can't fill an auditorium you book a town hall, that's common sense.

If you are discussing a crowd in NH, you don't post a picture from Omaha to look like a picture from NH, which you did, then pontificate about manipulation and cherry picking images.

And Trump's crowd did destroy Hillary's crowd and have been for months..... spin away professor spinmeister, I'm done.

[kawishiwi]

https://m.mic.com/articles/122531/on...-is#.cVDNZSktJ

Key takeaway from the link above:
"What it means: While Sanders ability to attract huge crowds is a key narrative of the campaign so far, crowd size is a notoriously imperfect indicator of a candidate's prospects in a coming election. In the days leading up to the 2012 presidential election, Republican nominee Mitt Romney played to roaring crowds in a number of states, including Ohio. On Election Day, he would lose there by more than 100,000 votes."

I believe the largest single campaign rally in the U.S. was at Fenway Park in '68 where 60,000+ turned out for our beloved president to-be... .Eugene McCarthy.

[fatlazyless]

"You will learn a whole lot more about Donald Trump if he produces his income tax return." ... quote Warren Buffett on August 1, 2016 at the rally from an Omaha, Nebraska high school with Hillary Clinton.

"The only reason he won't release his taxes is because he has something to hide!"
...quote Warren Buffett, August 1, 2016, at the rally photo above.

From the Omaha High School photo above: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us...aska.html?_r=0 Warren Buffett video 1:31, Aug 1, 2016

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Rusty

The amount of refugees the President wants to allow in this country doesn't come out of thin air -- it must be chosen in consultation with Congress.
Moreover, the president and Congress set budgets for the agencies involved in resettlement.
Some people who are posting here are depending on the media for all their information and don't have a clue as to how government is really run.

Billionaire George Soros has augmented Congress' budget by a half-billion dollars. If you don't know the name George Soros—or Saul Alinsky for that matter—you shouldn't be voting.

As for the "refugees", most of the murderers of Americans were sons of similarly-inclined "refugees". Orlando- and San Bernardino attacks come to mind.

[Mateen] follows in the footsteps of Syed Rizwan Farook, one of the San Bernardino, California, terrorists who was the son of Pakistanis; Nadir Soofi, one of two men who attacked a drawing competition in Garland, Texas, last year and whose father was from Pakistan; and then-Maj. Nidal Hassan, the child of Palestinian immigrants whose shooting rampage at Fort Hood, Texas, in 2009 set off the modern round of deadly lone-wolf attacks.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ost-fruitful-/

Very troubling is that the FBI had the mass-killers "on lists".

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I will look for the following at the debates, as it is rumored that Hillary has an earpiece that connects her electronically with her aides.

The rumor:

A hearing aid would be 100% allowed, if it was a true hearing aid.

Listen to her latest speeches or talks. She speaks (sometimes sounding a bit drugged) in perfect little clauses, pauses as if to think, then finishes the sentence perfectly. It doesn’t work like that, speaking off the cuff. It seems like she is reading. Another clue is at the end of one phrase she will end the sentence, by mistake too early, and then have to restart and end the sentence.

Such as: “and that brings us to where we are toDAY!” [whoops, after her strong sentence ending, she hears the rest of that sentence...] “which is why Donald Trump cannot be President!” She’s hearing the phrases and repeating.

All I can say, is "be aware".



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Headline:

Clinton/Kaine Rally Draws “Crowd of Dozens” In Pennsylvania…



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Originally Posted by ITD

If you can't fill an auditorium you book a town hall, that's common sense. If you are discussing a crowd in NH, you don't post a picture from Omaha to look like a picture from NH, which you did, then pontificate about manipulation and cherry picking images. And Trump's crowd did destroy Hillary's crowd and have been for months..... spin away professor spinmeister, I'm done.

Interesting that "crowds are unimportant to the election's outcome"; however, Hillary's Omaha "impressive" crowd was augmented by high school students bussed-in for the occasion. Many football jerseys from local high schools can be seen in the crowd.

Gates strung across the gymnasium floor controlling close-in access to Hillary made the crowd look bigger than it was (to network cameras, who were restrained to a position even further away).

Manipulation is very evident to those who analyze it.

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[Acrossamerica]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

You're as bad as the media I teach my students not to be manipulated by.

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That photo can't be real. The hilda beast is standing on her own and we all know she can no longer do that.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

I think for myself, thank you. Your boy was bashing capitalism all during his campaign. Yet amazingly, as soon as he's snuffed by Clinton and the DNC, he's buying a $600,000.00 lake house? Funny how capitalism ain't so bad when it suits him and his ilk. True hypocrites, and truly deplorable.

The "Sanderses" wanted a view of Vermont.

Snopes has dismissed criticism of Bernie, but why does Snopes always revert to statements by the accused? (Michelle says it isn't true, Hillary says it's a conspiracy, Barack says it's conspiracy-driven, Ms Bernie says she paid for it from inheritance monies).

Originally Posted by Acrossamerica

That photo can't be real. The hilda beast is standing on her own and we all know she can no longer do that.

Interesting that Joe Biden installed a new railing before Hillary's visit. In videos, you can see Hillary grasping the Biden's new railing, and indoors, table tops, kitchen counters. She always has pillows and a tall stool handy for appearances. This is no way to start a Presidency, even if it's "earned" or an "entitled" one. Neurological problems "creep" within the afflicted individual.

While it's sad when anyone deals with a neurological affliction, to "officially" deny it—or to have Matt Lauer and a compliant US press never addressing the problem—is deplorable.

Dehydration, pneumonia, and allergies?

From Britain:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ate-stool.html

.

[fatlazyless]

Oh well.....sew buttons and a bag of beans about Hillary! ....and what about Franklin Roosevelt who was president from March 4, 1933 to April 12, 1945, when he died at age-63. In April 1921, he was diagnosed with polio at age-39. Television was not here till about 1951, and television would not have been good for Roosevelt. FDR was very good on the radio!

The donald is about 60-lbs overweight as he weighs about 267-lbs, and is 6'2" tall which makes him obese ..... no surprise there ..... just look at him!

At age 68 and 70, it sure seems like both Hillary and Donald are both too danged old to be running for president. Ronald Reagan was in better health, it seems, when he started his presidency at age-69, just two weeks before turning 70.

www.time.com/4030136/martin-omalley-video/ Would be very surprised to see Hillary or Donald singing on Wall St like this.

Here's the guy who the Democrats should have been supporting as a candidate, Martin O'Malley, age-53......who unfortunately went nowhere in the primaries. Plus, he sings and strums a guitar, and does songs like 'What do you do with a drunken sailor?'

https://twitter.com/MartinOmalley?re...c%5Egoogle%7Ct

[ApS]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Oh well.....sew buttons and a bag of beans about Hillary! ....and what about Franklin Roosevelt who was president from March 4, 1933 to April 12, 1945, when he died at age-63. In April 1921, he was diagnosed with polio at age-39. Television was not here till about 1951, and television would not have been good for Roosevelt. FDR was very good on the radio!

The donald is about 60-lbs overweight as he weighs about 267-lbs, and is 6'2" tall which makes him obese ..... no surprise there ..... just look at him!

At age 68 and 70, it sure seems like both Hillary and Donald are both too danged old to be running for president. Ronald Reagan was in better health, it seems, when he started his presidency at age-69, just two weeks before turning 70.

www.time.com/4030136/martin-omalley-video/ Would be very surprised to see Hillary or Donald singing on Wall St like this.

Here's the guy who the Democrats should have been supporting as a candidate, Martin O'Malley, age-53......who unfortunately went nowhere in the primaries. Plus, he sings and strums a guitar, and does songs like 'What do you do with a drunken sailor?'

https://twitter.com/MartinOmalley?re...c%5Egoogle%7Ct

Protecting the US from a greatly-flawed immigration policy, Donald Trump initiated his campaign by cautioning against a massive Middle East "immigration" of hundreds of thousands.

Trump was reviled with the quote,

"...That's not who we are..."

FDR, on the other hand, rejected a similar, much smaller, and pitiable group from a US arrival in 1939.

Especially after three US attacks in 1 day, "Common Sense" should be the sole determination for a new immigration policy.

[fatlazyless]

Originally Posted by ApS

FDR, on the other hand, rejected a similar, much smaller, and pitiable group from a US arrival in 1939.

The M.S. St Louis tragedy on about May 27, 1939:

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordell_Hull

Big surprise: Secretary of State Cordell Hull, an Episcopalian, was married (1917-1954, her death) to a Jewish woman, Rose Witz, originally from Austria.....and he advised President Roosevelt not to let the M.S. St Louis dock ashore and unload Jewish passengers into the United States.

Cordell Hull remains the longest serving secretary of state, for 11-years, from 1933-44.

Times have changed since 1939; today's 114th congress, 2015-2017 has 10 Jewish senators, 9-Democrats and 1-independent, and the House of Representatives has 18-Democrats and 1-Republican.

Am trying to determine what was number of Jewish senators and congressmen in May, 1939? It had to be much fewer than today?
.............

So, how does this relate to today's two candidates, Hillary vs Donald ...... which one is the better choice and why?

[MAXUM]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

The M.S. St Louis tragedy on about May 27, 1939:

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordell_Hull

Big surprise: Secretary of State Cordell Hull, an Episcopalian, was married (1917-1954, her death) to a Jewish woman, Rose Witz, originally from Austria.....and he advised President Roosevelt not to let the M.S. St Louis dock ashore and unload Jewish passengers into the United States.

Cordell Hull remains the longest serving secretary of state, for 11-years, from 1933-44.

Times have changed since 1939; today's 114th congress, 2015-2017 has 10 Jewish senators, 9-Democrats and 1-independent, and the House of Representatives has 18-Democrats and 1-Republican.

Am trying to determine what was number of Jewish senators and congressmen in May, 1939? It had to be much fewer than today?
.............

So, how does this relate to today's two candidates, Hillary vs Donald ...... which one is the better choice and why?

Hillary - After all her so called experience, years as head of the state department, senator and so forth still is unable or unwilling to identify who the problem is and continues to endorse subjecting the American people to suicidal policies such as importing 10s of thousands of refugees from a part of the world where we 1. know is an incubator for terrorism and 2. terrorists organizations have openly stated their goal is to infiltrate this population with their kind to continue carrying out attacks against this nation and others. Need I remind you with quite a bit of success as well. Now either her and BO have rocks in their heads or have an agenda they are operating on that is clearly not in our best interest as a country. We owe these people nothing, nor have any obligation to take them in. So she can take her so called experience and shove it you know where because this is simply insanity. Haven't we seen enough violence already or do we really need to keep the doors open and readily invite more in all in the interest of being PC? Those people don't like us, never will and will not be happy until everyone submits to their twisted ideology.

Trump on the other hand at least (with no so called "experience") can easily identify who the problem and suggests simply shut the freaking door. Furthermore states that unless or until we are in a position to properly figure out who these people are, where they came from and under what circumstances their entry into this country is beneficial to us, no entry. To that point his ideas of putting some level of scrutiny on those that are already here certainly makes sense as well.

Seems pretty darn logical to me... but then again having been to the middle east in the gulf war I saw enough to know that I don't like or want that kind of violent chaos, stone aged culture or their crazy religion (I use that word very loosely) here in the US. We have enough problems already to deal with - why openly import more?

[Rusty]

The amount of refugees the President wants to allow in this country doesn't come out of thin air -- it must be chosen in consultation with Congress. Moreover, the president and Congress set budgets for the agencies involved in resettlement.

Some people who are posting here are depending on the media for all their information and don't have a clue as to how government is really run.

[MAXUM]

Originally Posted by Rusty

The amount of refugees the President wants to allow in this country doesn't come out of thin air -- it must be chosen in consultation with Congress. Moreover, the president and Congress set budgets for the agencies involved in resettlement.

Some people who are posting here are depending on the media for all their information and don't have a clue as to how government is really run.

Don't cloud the issue here, the problem is both BO and Hillary want to bring these people over here and illustrates complete incompetence on their part. Oh sure they pay lip service to vetting these people but it has already been well established we do not have a means to do this and clearly this is of no concern to either of them. Whether or not they need congress's approval or consultation is irrelevant. The media has nothing to do with this, they both have clearly stated their desire to do this. No spin here... straight from Hillary's mouth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMqaItzolOg

Pathetic!