The low level of our lake 2016

Paugus bay girl · 10-02-2016, 11:59 PM

We're probably gonna be in for a very snowy winter this year. That will fill the lake up

SIKSUKR · 10-03-2016, 03:00 PM

In 98 the no wake was lifted for the July 4th weekend. Many were not happy as the level was still real high.

Barney Bear · 10-03-2016, 03:50 PM

Cruised past Indian Head Rock located on the east shore of Camp Lawrence near the south end of Bear Island on our return to the mainland today. The painted Indian head is high and dry - - enough dry surface to see a belt if he had one! Also, nipple rock, located off the northeast end of Round Island, is now quite revealing.

Descant · 10-03-2016, 04:19 PM

We're pretty much done for the season so no more cruising. Would love it if people posted pictures here of things like this that we rarely see. Great opportunity missed to put new rubber facing on dock posts so it goes down lower on the post.

NoBozo · 10-03-2016, 06:14 PM

Just got back from two weeks plus..at the lake today and I read this thread.

BEFORE we left for the lake, I was was watching the WolfeCam a little after NOON..on a day which I can't recall... and The Mount was "sitting" there at the pier at Wolfeboro with no one apparently aboard...and un-moving. The Mount is usually gone from there at 1130 AM.

During our vacation, we learned that the Mount was Aground at the dock for awhile while a large number of charter passengers were either dis- embarked..OR moved to another position on the ship to change the weight distribution...or something.

Maybe four days ago I was observing the Mount approach the dock at Wolfeboro. She made what I thought was a wide approach and couldn't make it in close enough to "walk" the stern over to the aft "dolphin". She had the bow and spring lines ashore..and the gangway aboard. No Go.

She aborted the operation..tossed off all lines and the gangway and backed out into the bay. The second attempt was successful. (There was a Senior Captain aboard.)

I have spoken with him in the past. He reminds me of the last Master Chief I served with in the navy. Completely competent.

My assessment was ..Maybe there was a "Captain in Training" at the Con.........OR... a berm under the boat. (Low Water). They could not get the boat to "Walk" over to the "Dolphin".

Just an observation from an old Navy man. NB

Bear Guy · 10-11-2016, 03:55 PM

Just found this on the cruisenh.com, regarding the Mount's ports of call:

IMPORTANT SCHEDULE CHANGE: Due to unusually low lake levels, we are unable to dock in Wolfeboro. For the remainder of the season we will stop in Alton Bay instead of Wolfeboro.

ishoot308 · 10-11-2016, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bear Guy

Just found this on the cruisenh.com, regarding the Mount's ports of call:

IMPORTANT SCHEDULE CHANGE: Due to unusually low lake levels, we are unable to dock in Wolfeboro. For the remainder of the season we will stop in Alton Bay instead of Wolfeboro.

I find that a little unsettling actually...While the lake is a little lower than normal for this time of year, we are only talking inches, like maybe 6 or 7 inches lower. So are you telling me the Mount cuts it that close?

Dan

LIforrelaxin · 10-11-2016, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ishoot308

I find that a little unsettling actually...While the lake is a little lower than normal for this time of year, we are only talking inches, like maybe 6 or 7 inches lower. So are you telling me the Mount cuts it that close?

Dan

Yes she does cut it that close....... at the Bow.... I am sure there is plenty of water at the stern of the boat.... But the water under the bow, in Meredith, Center Harbor, and Wolfeboro, really isn't that deep...I would be willing to bet the lake can't go to much lower before those location become an issue as well.....

Remember She is 230' long....

I was looking at the fact that the Dam has been closed now, for the down stream draw down as normal.... And even with the rain this weekend, the lake really isn't rising.....

NoBozo · 10-11-2016, 07:13 PM

I spoke with a ships officer (three stripes) about the draft of the ship. The bow looks like it draws maybe four feet..visually...my observation. He told me the stern draws nearly nine feet..."at cruise speed". ie.The ship "squats" at speed. Although imprecise....That makes perfect sense.

The decision to skip Wolfeboro makes sense. If the ship were to get stuck at the pier...on a berm ("sand bar")...under the ship,....towing her off would be an unlikely event...there are no "Tugboats" on the lake powerful enough to tow her off.

A berm in the Wrong Place under the keel...Uneven support ..with the lake level going down "could"... Break The Back of this old ship.

NB

NoBozo · 10-11-2016, 07:47 PM

The hull of This Mount Washington was originally the Chateaugay, built on Lake Champlain in 1888. The Chateaugay was a Walking Beam Side Wheeler Steamer. She was transported over to Winni in sections on rail cars in 1940....To become today's M/S Mount Washington.

There is more history ..for another time. NB

Outdoorsman · 10-11-2016, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

There is more history ..for another time. NB

You can read more about it on Cruise NH's web site.

Interestingly though, they link to a thread on this very forum for More history about the Chateaguay

http://www.cruisenh.com/history.php

10-03-2016, 03:00 PM	#2
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	In 98 the no wake was lifted for the July 4th weekend. Many were not happy as the level was still real high. __________________ SIKSUKR

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Barney Bear Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 962 Thanks: 496 Thanked 274 Times in 175 Posts	Indian Head Rock Cruised past Indian Head Rock located on the east shore of Camp Lawrence near the south end of Bear Island on our return to the mainland today. The painted Indian head is high and dry - - enough dry surface to see a belt if he had one! Also, nipple rock, located off the northeast end of Round Island, is now quite revealing.

10-03-2016, 06:14 PM	#5
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Just got back from two weeks plus..at the lake today and I read this thread. BEFORE we left for the lake, I was was watching the WolfeCam a little after NOON..on a day which I can't recall... and The Mount was "sitting" there at the pier at Wolfeboro with no one apparently aboard...and un-moving. The Mount is usually gone from there at 1130 AM. During our vacation, we learned that the Mount was Aground at the dock for awhile while a large number of charter passengers were either dis- embarked..OR moved to another position on the ship to change the weight distribution...or something. Maybe four days ago I was observing the Mount approach the dock at Wolfeboro. She made what I thought was a wide approach and couldn't make it in close enough to "walk" the stern over to the aft "dolphin". She had the bow and spring lines ashore..and the gangway aboard. No Go. She aborted the operation..tossed off all lines and the gangway and backed out into the bay. The second attempt was successful. (There was a Senior Captain aboard.) I have spoken with him in the past. He reminds me of the last Master Chief I served with in the navy. Completely competent. My assessment was ..Maybe there was a "Captain in Training" at the Con.........OR... a berm under the boat. (Low Water). They could not get the boat to "Walk" over to the "Dolphin". Just an observation from an old Navy man. NB Last edited by NoBozo; 10-03-2016 at 07:24 PM.

10-11-2016, 03:55 PM	#6
Bear Guy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: FL, Bear Is. Posts: 185 Thanks: 47 Thanked 70 Times in 41 Posts	No Wolfeboro Oct2016 Just found this on the cruisenh.com, regarding the Mount's ports of call: IMPORTANT SCHEDULE CHANGE: Due to unusually low lake levels, we are unable to dock in Wolfeboro. For the remainder of the season we will stop in Alton Bay instead of Wolfeboro.

10-02-2016, 11:59 PM	#1
Paugus bay girl Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 47 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	We're probably gonna be in for a very snowy winter this year. That will fill the lake up

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Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,453 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 1,650 Times in 1,078 Posts	We're pretty much done for the season so no more cruising. Would love it if people posted pictures here of things like this that we rarely see. Great opportunity missed to put new rubber facing on dock posts so it goes down lower on the post.

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10-11-2016, 07:13 PM	#9
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	I spoke with a ships officer (three stripes) about the draft of the ship. The bow looks like it draws maybe four feet..visually...my observation. He told me the stern draws nearly nine feet..."at cruise speed". ie.The ship "squats" at speed. Although imprecise....That makes perfect sense. The decision to skip Wolfeboro makes sense. If the ship were to get stuck at the pier...on a berm ("sand bar")...under the ship,....towing her off would be an unlikely event...there are no "Tugboats" on the lake powerful enough to tow her off. A berm in the Wrong Place under the keel...Uneven support ..with the lake level going down "could"... Break The Back of this old ship. NB

10-11-2016, 07:47 PM	#10
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	The hull of This Mount Washington was originally the Chateaugay, built on Lake Champlain in 1888. The Chateaugay was a Walking Beam Side Wheeler Steamer. She was transported over to Winni in sections on rail cars in 1940....To become today's M/S Mount Washington. There is more history ..for another time. NB