... radiator flush-outs for less?

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

The original CJ (1982-2001) is the best Jeep made ever. Hands down! The new craps are cheap tin cans compared to the old AMC bodies. Just google or ask any Jeep enthusiast. Sure the electronics makes them so much better. I'd rather be safe in a tank!

Before the Jeep was the Scout, the best of the best! Rotted out before its time. Then the Bronco II, great off road performance! Rotted out in just 4 years. The factory looked the other way. I would not buy another Ford product.

Technology has come a long way, but the bodies became thinner than ever to save weight.

Actually, ask any HONEST Jeep enthusiast, and they'll GRUDGINGLY admit that the JK is superior to the CJ in every way but nostalgia. It's quieter, safer, more fuel efficient, powerful, and---for those REAL Jeepers--more capable. It's probably the only vehicle that has remained true to its heritage.

The JL? Now that might be another story, but if so I believe it'll be because of auto regulations rather than FCA's doing.

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[songkrai]

But back to the radiators.

In the olden days - there was a radiator repair shop in every city. Laconia had one. On South Main Street just before the Belmont Road split.
Radiators were steel and would rust. Engines were mostly cast iron and did rust.

Today we have aluminum radiators and most engines are aluminum alloy.
So the rust issues is minimized.

And with the newer cars there is not even a radiator cap. Just some plastic box.

I have had the fluid/radiator flushed on my car.

At minimum when oil is changed one should at least have the antifreeze checked for temperature.

Has anyone here had the antifreeze changed in vehicles?

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by songkrai

But back to the radiators.

In the olden days - there was a radiator repair shop in every city. Laconia had one. On South Main Street just before the Belmont Road split.
Radiators were steel and would rust. Engines were mostly cast iron and did rust.

Today we have aluminum radiators and most engines are aluminum alloy.
So the rust issues is minimized.

And with the newer cars there is not even a radiator cap. Just some plastic box.

I have had the fluid/radiator flushed on my car.

At minimum when oil is changed one should at least have the antifreeze checked for temperature.

Has anyone here had the antifreeze changed in vehicles?

I'm 63 years old and as far back as I can remember radiators were never steel,
They were copper or brass or both and they did not rust. They were repaired with solder just as in soldering a copper or brass plumbing fitting. The rust came from the cast iron blocks rusting not the radiators. I thought you have 45 years in the automotive trade? If that's true you should known that. Radiators are now made of aluminum and plastic for less cost and less weight. They are so cheap to buy new that they aren't worth repairing. If you have ever taken an old copper and brass radiator to the scrap yard you know costs of those materials are out of sight. An old copper or brass radiator will bring almost as much money in scrap as the wholesale cost of a new aluminum and plastic radiator.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by songkrai

But back to the radiators.

In the olden days - there was a radiator repair shop in every city. Laconia had one. On South Main Street just before the Belmont Road split.
Radiators were steel and would rust.

I've worked on many vehicles since the 1950's and have never seen a steel radiator.

There could have been some but I never ran into any.

[BroadHopper]

Yes and they repaired it with solder. Good to go!

I have on of those on the Jeep. Autoserv insist on replacing the radiator for big bucks! The labor from removing the AC core and removing the fan accessories to remover a radiator? I thought they were out of their tree!

There was a guy at NE Tire who said he can repair the radiator for a lot less so I took the chance to have an unknown repair the vehicle. A year later no sign of a leak. And people says new vehicles are better off technology wise. Disposable yes but not repairable.

I bet if I ask for the old radiator, an sell it at a scrap dealer, it could pay for the repair. Good reason not to trust the dealers.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Yes and they repaired it with solder. Good to go!

I have on of those on the Jeep. Autoserv insist on replacing the radiator for big bucks! The labor from removing the AC core and removing the fan accessories to remover a radiator? I thought they were out of their tree!

There was a guy at NE Tire who said he can repair the radiator for a lot less so I took the chance to have an unknown repair the vehicle. A year later no sign of a leak. And people says new vehicles are better off technology wise. Disposable yes but not repairable.

I bet if I ask for the old radiator, an sell it at a scrap dealer, it could pay for the repair. Good reason not to trust the dealers.

Just like everything else, everything is made today to throw away and replace with new.

[ITD]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Just like everything else, everything is made today to throw away and replace with new.

I'll have to say though, radiators seem much more reliable now then they were in the past. Also, relatively speaking, they are probably cheaper to produce and much lighter weight with the new technologies.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by ITD

I'll have to say though, radiators seem much more reliable now then they were in the past. Also, relatively speaking, they are probably cheaper to produce and much lighter weight with the new technologies.

So aren't automobiles. Anyone that thinks those old cars were better is living in the past. Cars and trucks today are so much better, more reliable, better on fuel, safer, and generally go a lot more miles than older models. Like I said, I've been working on cars and trucks for 45 years. Anything built in America in the 80's was pure junk! I love old cars, I have a 67 Corvette. But I will be the first to admit that the new Corvettes are lights years better. Driving the 67 just takes me back in time to my simpler youth. Sometimes I just need that!