Some folks never learn

[Shreddy]

Originally Posted by SAB1

Your right they didn't. But easily could have. Bottom line - it is illegal. And yes I have first responders in my family that deal with illegal and stupid things idiots do, often putting their lives in danger so save me from your "live free or die" attitude.

With all due respect, your family chose that job

[SAB1]

Not denying that. Risks with the job. But senseless illegal acts that are easily avoidable and continue to add up over time will at some point lead to unfavorable outcomes for both the parties doing it and the parties cleaning up the mess. In reality, disregarding the laws just lead to new laws on the books which seems to further restrict the opportunity to "live free".

[Shreddy]

Originally Posted by SAB1

Not denying that. Risks with the job. But senseless illegal acts that are easily avoidable and continue to add up over time will at some point lead to unfavorable outcomes for both the parties doing it and the parties cleaning up the mess. In reality, disregarding the laws just lead to new laws on the books which seems to further restrict the opportunity to "live free".

I could go on for days, but it's honestly not worth the argument. I personally, choose to live a little and have some fun every now and then. Clearly these guys did too. It didn't affect you, it didn't affect your family, and I highly doubt you're going to see a growing trend of dare devils start skimming massive patches of water to barefoot ski in low temps.

[HomeWood]

Originally Posted by Shreddy

With all due respect, your family chose that job

Then if you choose to skim and lose it.....no one is coming for you. Fair?

[Shreddy]

Originally Posted by HomeWood

Then if you choose to skim and lose it.....no one is coming for you. Fair?

That doesn't make sense...My point was that as a first responder, there is inherent risk with the job that you may have to rescue people at some point as a result of legal or illegal acts.

[HomeWood]

Originally Posted by Shreddy

That doesn't make sense...My point was that as a first responder, there is inherent risk with the job that you may have to rescue people at some point as a result of legal or illegal acts.

It makes perfect sense. The deal is make it legal but no rescues. Clearly tongue in cheek. First responders will jump into action whether the mishap was legal, illegal, intentional, by accident, just dumb, or otherwise. With that said, the public has some responsibility to keep themselves out of trouble in the first place. That would be following the laws in place. Skimming was made illegal due to the risks for ALL involved when it goes bad and that includes those coming to the rescue.

I think skimming is pretty cool but there is a place for it. Those who just wanna have fun and live free or die are the same ones who don't obey the stay on trail signs.

[Skip]

Just a couple of comments about the two idiots that staged this foolish stunt for their five minutes of fame....

Knew what they were doing? No risks? Well prepared?

Crap. During warm weather with specially prepared sleds, dozens of riders still go into the water at the Fremont Grass Drags each season, so much so that a specialized pontoon boat with rescuers are on scene for immediate deployment. No such arrangements were made for this stunt except for a single kayaker.

And what about the first responders that would have been tied up if this unannounced event had easily gone bad? Anyone familiar with public safety in the area knows how extremely taxed existing agencies are. The incidents of two weeks ago, where first responders were on alert and extra staffed still showed that a multiple incident delays response time. So if these two idiots were in the water awaiting rescue which is an intensive response, all other citizens in the coverage area are placed at higher risk due to delayed response times.

If these two had applied for a special event permit, met necessary safety requirements including the funding of necessary rescue personnel, then they would have truly only placed themselves at risk.

However these two idiots indeed placed themselves and countless other residents at risk with their foolish stunt. Those that don't understand that simply have no clue as to how thinly stretched the first responder service is in our State. And that truly is sad....

[ApS]

Originally Posted by HomeWood

It makes perfect sense. The deal is make it legal but no rescues. Clearly tongue in cheek. First responders will jump into action whether the mishap was legal, illegal, intentional, by accident, just dumb, or otherwise. With that said, the public has some responsibility to keep themselves out of trouble in the first place. That would be following the laws in place. Skimming was made illegal due to the risks for ALL involved when it goes bad and that includes those coming to the rescue.
I think skimming is pretty cool but there is a place for it. Those who just wanna have fun and live free or die are the same ones who don't obey the stay on trail signs.

NOT just "those coming to the rescue", but "those training for such rescues".

As we saw in Alton a few years ago.

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[Lakegeezer]

There is a GoFundMe site set up to help pay the fine. Last I looked, almost twice the fine had been donated. They say, "100% of $$ over our goal will be donated in memory of Mark Greene to the Squam Trail Busters Snowmobile Club".