Full lake 2017

[jr616]

http://www.des.nh.gov/organization/d.../winni_levels/

We are watching this daily as we have some work to do on our dock and the supports are under water - tough to use the power tools!

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by jr616

http://www.des.nh.gov/organization/d.../winni_levels/

We are watching this daily as we have some work to do on our dock and the supports are under water - tough to use the power tools!

As of today, the lake is only about 3" above "full lake". How is this an issue??.... If your waiting for it to go down by any significant amount, that wont happen till September...

Dan

[Phantom]

That's actually interesting and probably a result of all the rain Sunday & Monday past ..... I actually made note to look under the bridge on Saturday (mid-day) and was somewhat surprised to see that the Lake was actually at Full Lake (red line just peeking above the waterline) -- I sort of expected to see an inch or two above the Red Line.


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[4 decade islander]

"Full LAKE" since the 80's is at least 10" higher than all the time prior. Been on the island for over 4 decades. In 1984 worst flooding in recorded history. Docks that were functional and dry for nearly a century are IN the lake every 3-4 years on average now.
Why don't they show average lake levels over the last 75 years? In the last 20 years high water levels have caused erosion, dock and other real problems 6 times! Nubies on the lake have docks built to new full LAKE levels and weekend boaters don't have problems. No so for us who built prior to 1984. I have lost 4-7 feet of shoreline soil since 1990 despite re-rocking shoreline numerous times.
I know it is a difficult job when electrical generation is the major factor in keeping the lake high. Wish they would lower lake so that a 2 inch rain forcasted 7-10 day before doesn't cause problems. Seems they manage the levels re-actively rather than pro-activley. Need a lower "safety net" level ALL year.
P.S. If lowering water level 10" more is going to damage props (as some use as excuse for full lake) then you are going too fast, don't have a chart or local knowledge or you are in the wrong area.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by 4 decade islander

"Full LAKE" since the 80's is at least 10" higher than all the time prior. Been on the island for over 4 decades. In 1984 worst flooding in recorded history. Docks that were functional and dry for nearly a century are IN the lake every 3-4 years on average now.
Why don't they show average lake levels over the last 75 years? In the last 20 years high water levels have caused erosion, dock and other real problems 6 times! Nubies on the lake have docks built to new full LAKE levels and weekend boaters don't have problems. No so for us who built prior to 1984. I have lost 4-7 feet of shoreline soil since 1990 despite re-rocking shoreline numerous times.
I know it is a difficult job when electrical generation is the major factor in keeping the lake high. Wish they would lower lake so that a 2 inch rain forcasted 7-10 day before doesn't cause problems. Seems they manage the levels re-actively rather than pro-activley. Need a lower "safety net" level ALL year.
P.S. If lowering water level 10" more is going to damage props (as some use as excuse for full lake) then you are going too fast, don't have a chart or local knowledge or you are in the wrong area.

I imagine the water level is high everywhere so when you lower the level of the lake it will affect someone else downstream.

[ishoot308]

This is probably the best article I have read which explains the reasoning behind full lake and fall draw down and the science behind it. DES has their hands full maintaining the lake at a proper level and I think they do a great job for the most part!

http://nhpr.org/post/maintaining-lev...nment#stream/0

Dan

[Descant]

Originally Posted by 4 decade islander

"Full LAKE" since the 80's is at least 10" higher than all the time prior. Been on the island for over 4 decades. In 1984 worst flooding in recorded history. Docks that were functional and dry for nearly a century are IN the lake every 3-4 years on average now.
Why don't they show average lake levels over the last 75 years? In the last 20 years high water levels have caused erosion, dock and other real problems 6 times! Nubies on the lake have docks built to new full LAKE levels and weekend boaters don't have problems. No so for us who built prior to 1984. I have lost 4-7 feet of shoreline soil since 1990 despite re-rocking shoreline numerous times.
I know it is a difficult job when electrical generation is the major factor in keeping the lake high. Wish they would lower lake so that a 2 inch rain forcasted 7-10 day before doesn't cause problems. Seems they manage the levels re-actively rather than pro-activley. Need a lower "safety net" level ALL year.
P.S. If lowering water level 10" more is going to damage props (as some use as excuse for full lake) then you are going too fast, don't have a chart or local knowledge or you are in the wrong area.

Shame on us. Handful of posts after yours and nobody said "WELCOME".I will say it:"WELCOME TO THE FORUM"

I'm curious about your location to lose that much shore and to have your dock so low. The docks at my marina (early 1960's construction) would stand up well if the lake were another foot higher. Same for many docks I'm familiar with from similar construction period. Do your neighbors also have "low" docks?

[Rattletrap]

Originally Posted by Descant

Shame on us. Handful of posts after yours and nobody said "WELCOME".I will say it:"WELCOME TO THE FORUM"

Rattletrap likes this

[ApS]

Originally Posted by 4 decade islander

"Full LAKE" since the 80's is at least 10" higher than all the time prior. Been on the island for over 4 decades. In 1984 worst flooding in recorded history. Docks that were functional and dry for nearly a century are IN the lake every 3-4 years on average now.
Why don't they show average lake levels over the last 75 years? In the last 20 years high water levels have caused erosion, dock and other real problems 6 times! Nubies on the lake have docks built to new full LAKE levels and weekend boaters don't have problems. No so for us who built prior to 1984. I have lost 4-7 feet of shoreline soil since 1990 despite re-rocking shoreline numerous times.
I know it is a difficult job when electrical generation is the major factor in keeping the lake high. Wish they would lower lake so that a 2 inch rain forcasted 7-10 day before doesn't cause problems. Seems they manage the levels re-actively rather than pro-activley. Need a lower "safety net" level ALL year.
P.S. If lowering water level 10" more is going to damage props (as some use as excuse for full lake) then you are going too fast, don't have a chart or local knowledge or you are in the wrong area.

The recent trend towards high lake levels have been very good for dock-builders.

That I can recall, I've lost three trees in this undeveloped stretch of shoreline. One was huge, but the smaller trees "leaning" today suggest that erosion has increased in intensity.

Several of my trees that had formerly grown straight, have started "that lean" towards the lake.



'Course, my neighbor has it worse!



Taken earlier in Spring, this photo shows the leaning trees without the cover of new growth:

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[jr616]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

As of today, the lake is only about 3" above "full lake". How is this an issue??.... If your waiting for it to go down by any significant amount, that wont happen till September...

Dan

We recently purchased the property and had I been in possession of a crystal ball I would have done the work on the dock before I bought the house. The issue is that the dock supports need to be replaced and they are 2 inches under water. Since you don't see the issue Dan - can I borrow your DeWalt tools then?

I am well aware of lake levels and how they fluctuate throughout the season... but thanks for letting me know about September. That was super helpful.

I now know why I have been a member of this board for years but rarely offer a comment. I was simply showing users how to get up to the date numbers on the lake level.

Happy Summer and as they say in the South - Bless Your Heart!

[SIKSUKR]

Dont understand the sarcasm towards Dan. Always very informative and never out of line. I didnt sense his post was an attack on you rather that the lake is pretty near normal and your issue would be the same most years.

[jr616]

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Dont understand the sarcasm towards Dan. Always very informative and never out of line. I didnt sense his post was an attack on you rather that the lake is pretty near normal and your issue would be the same most years.

As was I when I offered up the link to DES (informative). And around here I thought sarcasm was how this entire forum operated. My bad.

Have a great Summer - I promise never to be sarcastic again.

[Barney Bear]

The gauge on our dock post on East Bear Island indicates that the lake is about six inches below pool (full) elevation. 🐻

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by Barney Bear

The gauge on our dock post on East Bear Island indicates that the lake is about six inches below pool (full) elevation. 🐻

It must be up hill from East Bear to the Weirs Channel. I went under the bridge at 3 PM today and that gauge is showing the level at exactly "full lake".

[Barney Bear]

Downhill. 🐻 Oops, You are correct.......strong east wind pushes the water towards the Weirs.

[Barney Bear]

Checked our dock post gauge (a pair of nails) this morning. Lake level appears to be several inches above pool. My earlier reading was wrong. Looking forward to eating crow. 🍷

[Outdoorsman]

Isn't it interesting to be discussing "FULL" lake level when last fall the discussion was about "LOW" lake levels....And The MV Mt Sunapee running aground.

Mother Nature sure is fickle and the DES has a tough job keeping up with her.

https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...highlight=lake

[Biggd]

All I know is my prop should make it through at least half the summer season in pristine condition.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Biggd

All I know is my prop should make it through at least half the summer season in pristine condition.

Now that is funny!!!


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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by jr616

We recently purchased the property and had I been in possession of a crystal ball I would have done the work on the dock before I bought the house. The issue is that the dock supports need to be replaced and they are 2 inches under water. Since you don't see the issue Dan - can I borrow your DeWalt tools then?

I am well aware of lake levels and how they fluctuate throughout the season... but thanks for letting me know about September. That was super helpful.

I now know why I have been a member of this board for years but rarely offer a comment. I was simply showing users how to get up to the date numbers on the lake level.

Happy Summer and as they say in the South - Bless Your Heart!

I don't know when you bought the property but most people plan their in water dock repairs after Labor Day. You don't need a crystal ball for that. Just sayin!

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by jr616

We recently purchased the property and had I been in possession of a crystal ball I would have done the work on the dock before I bought the house. The issue is that the dock supports need to be replaced and they are 2 inches under water. Since you don't see the issue Dan - can I borrow your DeWalt tools then?

I am well aware of lake levels and how they fluctuate throughout the season... but thanks for letting me know about September. That was super helpful.

I now know why I have been a member of this board for years but rarely offer a comment. I was simply showing users how to get up to the date numbers on the lake level.

Happy Summer and as they say in the South - Bless Your Heart!

I wasn't trying to be a wise ass JR. My question was legit as I was just trying to figure out how the lake being just slightly above Full lake or almost normal for this time of year screwed you up. It's not like it's way above it's normal height.

Since you rarely post here I didn't know you were "well aware of how the lake fluctuates" and why I mentioned September....Many who come here are looking for information and I was just trying to pass that on...

Thanks for the blessing on my heart though, it needs all the help it can get!

Dan

[jr616]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

I wasn't trying to be a wise ass JR. My question was legit as I was just trying to figure out how the lake being just slightly above Full lake or almost normal for this time of year screwed you up. It's not like it's way above it's normal height.

Since you rarely post here I didn't know you were "well aware of how the lake fluctuates" and why I mentioned September....Many who come here are looking for information and I was just trying to pass that on...

Thanks for the blessing on my heart though, it needs all the help it can get!

Dan

Thanks! Again have a great summer. BTW - I notice you didn't offer up your Dewalt for my project