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Old 06-07-2017, 06:53 PM   #1
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So what happens to any of these solar arrays when the array, or the house, building, etc. get struck by an electrical storm: AKA Lightening?

It sounds very expensive! Does insurance fully cover this? I always wondered!

Even though I have electrical surge protectors at home, it sure was expensive when just about every electrical device in my house failed, and my house wasn't directly hit, the strike was never located, but somewhere nearby on the street.
We have a modest solar system of 6120 Watts and are a 100% electric home including heat. We are very satisfied with what we have and the system performance. We added the system to our home insurance coverage for very little $$. Something like $25/annually.
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Old 06-07-2017, 07:13 PM   #2
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We have a modest solar system of 6150 Watts and are a 100% electric home including heat. We are very satisfied with what we have and the system performance. We added the system to our home insurance coverage for very little $$. Something like $25/annually.
How many panels is that, and how much of your power does it supply?

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Hmmm, current grounding procedures, accepted by the electric code provides for ONE singular ground, not individual ones, this is standard electrical engineering practices, going back centuries. Of course, if you wish to believe what you want, I will not object, because your loss won't cost me.
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Old 06-07-2017, 09:48 PM   #4
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Too bad "cloud arrays" were not an option to produce power. They would be killing it right now.
Although everything is in the cloud now I guess.....
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Old 06-08-2017, 05:54 AM   #5
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Too bad "cloud arrays" were not an option to produce power. They would be killing it right now.
Although everything is in the cloud now I guess.....
Too bad someone hasn't figured out how to save some of that sun in the cloud so we could retrieve it on miserable weekends.
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I live on Long Island and can't say as I'm thrilled about looking at this every day. Just how large can we expect it to be?
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I read somewhere in a scientific journey that if all the municipal waste landfills were harnessed for methanol production and covered with solar array we should have enough electricity to power the nation.

Seemed far fest but would be an excellent idea! Reuse all landfills for energy production. After all the land is cheap!
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I read somewhere in a scientific journey that if all the municipal waste landfills were harnessed for methanol production and covered with solar array we should have enough electricity to power the nation.

Seemed far fest but would be an excellent idea! Reuse all landfills for energy production. After all the land is cheap!
The next big thing will be harnessing our septic systems and output from our home toilets, along with "eat more beans" campaigns!
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The next big thing will be harnessing our septic systems and output from our home toilets, along with "eat more beans" campaigns!
Already a real thing!https://www.sciencealert.com/trials-...ste-into-power
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Solar arrays will not be the only things that end up on top of landfills now or in the future. Once a landfill is capped and does not pose a danger to the public you'd be amazed what they get used for. I work for an environmental/geotechnical firm and we actually redevelop these properties into everything from fields to solar farms to upscale commercial developments. The Home Depot/Jordan's furniture located in Reading, MA at Walker's Brook Crossing is actually on top of a landfill. I personally just developed a 57 acre parcel in Silicon Valley, CA right on San Francisco Bay that is on top of a 75-foot thick landfill for a very high end commercial client.
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I read somewhere in a scientific journey that if all the municipal waste landfills were harnessed for methanol production and covered with solar array we should have enough electricity to power the nation.

Seemed far fest but would be an excellent idea! Reuse all landfills for energy production. After all the land is cheap!
They're already doing that with landfills that are capped in central MA. I do like the covered parking lot idea though in snow areas there would have to be methods of handling snow sliding off. How do they clear snow off these large arrays in snow country?

As for home applications, Tesla is getting ready to produce a variety of solar shingles for roof replacements or original installs. They look very nice.
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I do like the covered parking lot idea though in snow areas there would have to be methods of handling snow sliding off. How do they clear snow off these large arrays in snow country?
I think they could use the same method used to clear parking lots after snow is cleaned off the cars and onto the pavement. The amount of snow is the same regardless of where it first lands.

I think the recommended procedure is to just let the snow melt and slide off. In the Winter, the panels should be tilted steep enough to shed snow quickly.
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I believe the location for this array (if facing the MoBo neck electric sub-station from the road) is behind the substation before the Arcadia campground. It is questionable if the "view" will be "unsightly".

https://www.nhec.com/nhec-breaks-gro...t-solar-array/

https://www.moultonboroughnh.gov/sit...tm16531464.pdf

https://www.puc.nh.gov/Electric/electric.htm


It should also be pointed out that NHECOOP is not a "utility". RE: RSA 362.

"... rural electric cooperatives ..." "... shall not be considered public utilities .."

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/.../362/362-2.htm
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I read somewhere in a scientific journey that if all the municipal waste landfills were harnessed for methanol production and covered with solar array we should have enough electricity to power the nation.

Seemed far fest but would be an excellent idea! Reuse all landfills for energy production. After all the land is cheap!
Just think about how much could be collected if we could put gas collectors on peoples butts.
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Too bad someone hasn't figured out how to save some of that sun in the cloud so we could retrieve it on miserable weekends.
You can save the power in your basement--almost. These aren't quite ready for the mass market--first installations are happening now. But in a year or two with technology improving and prices prices falling, they should make it easy to save solar power for a miserable weekend, or at least a dark night.

https://www.tesla.com/powerwall
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Hmmm, current grounding procedures, accepted by the electric code provides for ONE singular ground, not individual ones, this is standard electrical engineering practices, going back centuries. Of course, if you wish to believe what you want, I will not object, because your loss won't cost me.
If you had 10 acres of solar panels, I don't think you'd want just one grounding rod for all of them.
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If you had 10 acres of solar panels, I don't think you'd want just one grounding rod for all of them.
I agree that for the large system size in Moultonboro there would be more than one grounding rod/point. For a home solar power generating system grounding is suffucient and proper through the house electrical system ground and per code. It is tied directly to the incoming power companies meter through the house electrical panel so you can send them any excess power generated. With a solar system you have a Net Metering meter vs a standard power company meter. If it was a stand alone home system on the ground then I believe it would have a ground rod at the solar array as well as the standard house ground.
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How many panels is that, and how much of your power does it supply?

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We have 18 panels. They are Solar World - Model SW 340 XL's (340 watt). It is a new install (5 months) so we do not have lots of data on the power generated. Yesterday we had 32.68 kwh generated and the system target was for 23.43 kwh. That was 139.46% over our target. Yesterday was a sunny day hence the high amount of power generated. Obviously on cloudy/rainy days we get very little power generation. We have a "Net Meter" that sends power to the electric company when we generate more than we are using.
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