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ishoot308 · 07-18-2017, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

Imagine how long the race would take to finish... the pit stops would take hours while the drivers plug in the cars.

Probably be more fun to watch than what they do now!

20 cars all going the same speed around an oval 500 times while sitting and watching in aluminum bleachers in the blazing July heat.... and they wonder why people don't go??

camp guy · 07-18-2017, 02:40 PM

You've got it, ishoot308, but, maybe what they need is some "during lap entertainment", say, a roped off area in the infield where you can watch grass grow.

Scott's Yott · 07-19-2017, 08:20 AM

Sure beats the hell out of watching a baseball game, where you literally watch the grass grow.
I still feel and have stated before, that a large part of the dwindling crowds is the fact that all the local hotels are gouging the public by more than doubling and tripling the price of a nights stay. I have been going to at least one race per year for 25 years and used to see more license plates from out of state than NH plates. Not any more..Mass and vermont are about it now.
I'll be going to the Watkins Glenn NY race in two weeks and am only paying 65$ a night in a beautiful hotel..Oh ya and the race is already sold out. NH tourism need to get it's **** together and fix this problem.
I know racing isnt for everyone, but the more you follow it the more you see what is going on and the reason it is entertaining to millions of people.

Rant complete

noreast · 07-19-2017, 08:41 AM

Tourism is up every year, While the race is down every year. People I know that use to go in the past just don't go (or watch) any more, It has simply lost a lot of fans. As has baseball, But the money in baseball still grows, which will hurt it in the long run since it makes them reluctant to change.

Biggd · 07-19-2017, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott's Yott

Sure beats the hell out of watching a baseball game, where you literally watch the grass grow.
I still feel and have stated before, that a large part of the dwindling crowds is the fact that all the local hotels are gouging the public by more than doubling and tripling the price of a nights stay. I have been going to at least one race per year for 25 years and used to see more license plates from out of state than NH plates. Not any more..Mass and vermont are about it now.
I'll be going to the Watkins Glenn NY race in two weeks and am only paying 65$ a night in a beautiful hotel..Oh ya and the race is already sold out. NH tourism need to get it's **** together and fix this problem.
I know racing isnt for everyone, but the more you follow it the more you see what is going on and the reason it is entertaining to millions of people.

Rant complete

I'm a car guy and always will be but I went to one race when the track was booming and sold out many years ago and I would never go back. I thought it was boring and after so many laps you can't tell who are the leaders unless you have it on radio because you can't hear a dam thing. I've been offered free tickets and it's just not for me. I would rather go to a small local short track and watch junkers race.

ApS · 07-24-2017, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggd

I'm a car guy and always will be but I went to one race when the track was booming and sold out many years ago and I would never go back. I thought it was boring and after so many laps you can't tell who are the leaders unless you have it on radio because you can't hear a dam thing. I've been offered free tickets and it's just not for me. I would rather go to a small local short track and watch junkers race.

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robmac · 07-24-2017, 07:09 AM

I still have tickets and agree attendance is way down. I remember when you could tell one manufacturer from another and root for a brand a driver or both. Having gone to Charlotte for the driving experience the cars aren't that hard to drive at speed but thats without 40 other hungry vultures out there. While I thing in theory attempting to bring costs down by rules changer to save independent teams it also watered down the events hence decline in market share. Changing rules to satisfy a few and sacrificing the majority was and still is not good for anybody especially the fans. JMHO

salty dog · 07-24-2017, 04:19 PM

I've always had a love for cars and seeing them go fast. Back in the day (circa 1975), I used to occasionally bring my 440 Roadrunner to Wednesday street (grudge) night at Epping. That was a lot of fun. (Sure wish I still had THAT!) My son purchased 2 Nascar ride along groupons for a Father's Day present. I had never been to the Speedway in person and found it very impressive. Well, I had the ride of my life! It's sure one thing to watch racing on TV or even at the track but totally to different to experience it. Kinda like watching parachuting and then actually going up and jumping out of a plane. The visceral experience of hearing (and feeling) the deafening sound of the engine (should have brought ear plugs), the heat, the raw smell of fuel and uncatalyzed exhaust was such a treat to my senses. I was trying to take it all in while at the same time being rocketed down the acceleration lane and onto the track. The g-force going through the turns was amazing; it just didn't seem possible the car could corner that hard. We hit over 150 in the straights and then the impossibly hard braking took us down in seconds to about 100 into the banks. Definitely, the best father's day present I ever had! When the Andretti ride along experience returns, I would encourage any fans to give it a try. Maybe next time, I'll try driving as robmac did.

SIKSUKR · 07-19-2017, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott's Yott

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I still feel and have stated before, that a large part of the dwindling crowds is the fact that all the local hotels are gouging the public by more than doubling and tripling the price of a nights stay

That doesnt explain why the numbers are less than half what they were for every race in the country.

Doobs41378 · 07-19-2017, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

That doesnt explain why the numbers are less than half what they were for every race in the country.

I agree it certainly isn't just a NHMS problem. Just Google the TV ratings as well. Not as many people care as they did before and to piggyback on that, the Red Sox are in first place and their TV viewership is down 12% this year. May be a trend in sports that aren't the NFL.

Mr. V · 07-19-2017, 10:56 AM

NASCAR shot itself in the foot when it required racers to build cars based around the same design.

Gone are the classic battles of Chevy vs. Ford vs. Mopar.

It used to be that the cars racing at the track actually were based on the cars people could buy: not any more.

I can understand the need to change: race cars are rear wheel drive, and fewer and fewer American cars are rwd these days.

The loss of interest is not limited to NASCAR; auto racing is suffering across the board, including Indy car and Formula 1.

Merrymeeting · 07-20-2017, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Doobs41378

I agree it certainly isn't just a NHMS problem. Just Google the TV ratings as well. Not as many people care as they did before and to piggyback on that, the Red Sox are in first place and their TV viewership is down 12% this year. May be a trend in sports that aren't the NFL.

The NFL is down too. http://www.businessinsider.com/nfl-r...o-slump-2017-2

HomeWood · 07-20-2017, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Merrymeeting

The NFL is down too. http://www.businessinsider.com/nfl-r...o-slump-2017-2

Politics did not help them at all last season. I and many others do not want to see protests at the bench by whiny little wanna be social justice warriors or listen to the player's opinion on anything but the game. I love the Pats and Brady but I do not want or need to hear one political comment from him. And that includes a political comment or stance I may even agree with!

07-18-2017, 02:40 PM	#2
camp guy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: formerly Winter Harbor, still Wolfeboro Posts: 1,189 Thanks: 301 Thanked 527 Times in 294 Posts	Loudon small crowd You've got it, ishoot308, but, maybe what they need is some "during lap entertainment", say, a roped off area in the infield where you can watch grass grow.

07-24-2017, 04:19 PM	#8
salty dog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Beverly Cove, Ma Posts: 359 Thanks: 288 Thanked 148 Times in 82 Posts	I've always had a love for cars and seeing them go fast. Back in the day (circa 1975), I used to occasionally bring my 440 Roadrunner to Wednesday street (grudge) night at Epping. That was a lot of fun. (Sure wish I still had THAT!) My son purchased 2 Nascar ride along groupons for a Father's Day present. I had never been to the Speedway in person and found it very impressive. Well, I had the ride of my life! It's sure one thing to watch racing on TV or even at the track but totally to different to experience it. Kinda like watching parachuting and then actually going up and jumping out of a plane. The visceral experience of hearing (and feeling) the deafening sound of the engine (should have brought ear plugs), the heat, the raw smell of fuel and uncatalyzed exhaust was such a treat to my senses. I was trying to take it all in while at the same time being rocketed down the acceleration lane and onto the track. The g-force going through the turns was amazing; it just didn't seem possible the car could corner that hard. We hit over 150 in the straights and then the impossibly hard braking took us down in seconds to about 100 into the banks. Definitely, the best father's day present I ever had! When the Andretti ride along experience returns, I would encourage any fans to give it a try. Maybe next time, I'll try driving as robmac did. __________________ I'd rather be relax'n at Winnipesaukee

07-19-2017, 08:20 AM	#3
Scott's Yott Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: chester nh Posts: 93 Thanks: 54 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts	Sure beats the hell out of watching a baseball game, where you literally watch the grass grow. I still feel and have stated before, that a large part of the dwindling crowds is the fact that all the local hotels are gouging the public by more than doubling and tripling the price of a nights stay. I have been going to at least one race per year for 25 years and used to see more license plates from out of state than NH plates. Not any more..Mass and vermont are about it now. I'll be going to the Watkins Glenn NY race in two weeks and am only paying 65$ a night in a beautiful hotel..Oh ya and the race is already sold out. NH tourism need to get it's **** together and fix this problem. I know racing isnt for everyone, but the more you follow it the more you see what is going on and the reason it is entertaining to millions of people. Rant complete

07-19-2017, 08:41 AM	#4
noreast Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 648 Thanks: 316 Thanked 120 Times in 93 Posts	Tourism is up every year, While the race is down every year. People I know that use to go in the past just don't go (or watch) any more, It has simply lost a lot of fans. As has baseball, But the money in baseball still grows, which will hurt it in the long run since it makes them reluctant to change.

07-24-2017, 07:09 AM	#7
robmac Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nashua,Meredith Posts: 951 Thanks: 213 Thanked 106 Times in 81 Posts	I still have tickets and agree attendance is way down. I remember when you could tell one manufacturer from another and root for a brand a driver or both. Having gone to Charlotte for the driving experience the cars aren't that hard to drive at speed but thats without 40 other hungry vultures out there. While I thing in theory attempting to bring costs down by rules changer to save independent teams it also watered down the events hence decline in market share. Changing rules to satisfy a few and sacrificing the majority was and still is not good for anybody especially the fans. JMHO

07-19-2017, 10:56 AM	#11
Mr. V Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: the left coast (Portland)and West Alton Posts: 1,411 Thanks: 65 Thanked 259 Times in 177 Posts	NASCAR shot itself in the foot when it required racers to build cars based around the same design. Gone are the classic battles of Chevy vs. Ford vs. Mopar. It used to be that the cars racing at the track actually were based on the cars people could buy: not any more. I can understand the need to change: race cars are rear wheel drive, and fewer and fewer American cars are rwd these days. The loss of interest is not limited to NASCAR; auto racing is suffering across the board, including Indy car and Formula 1.