New boat thoughts ???

[DesertDweller]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Hurricanes offer Biminis. You are right though, anything smaller than a 22 is going to get tossed around pretty good in rough water. You really have to test ride them to see which one you feel good about.

If you want something big and heavy that won't get tossed around, take a look at Robalo's. They are built like tanks.

[Doobs41378]

http://www.searay.com/page.aspx/page...DX-220-OB.aspx

[Biggd]

This is the kind of thread I enjoy. You get to spend someone else's money on the boat of your dreams.

[Doobs41378]

Originally Posted by Biggd

This is the kind of thread I enjoy. You get to spend someone else's money on the boat of your dreams.

Oh well then let me change my link to a 29 footer

[ursa minor]

Melvin Village Marina carries Robalo, they have a nice looking 21 or 22 foot "dual console" model that is outboard powered. I think Key West (Shep Browns) has a similar size dual console as well. If I'm spending someone else's money, how about a 23 foot Rossiter? I've seen a couple on the lake, verrry nice looking modern take on a small Bertram (in my opinion). The Rossiters are not bow riders though...

[bigdog]

WOW 14 responses, and I started initial Thread at noon, I love this Forum !

Didn't mention my current boat, an 18' Angler Center console. with Evinrude outboard. I love it, the wife not too thrilled !

Hey, go ahead and spend my money, I just bought the Bahre estate.... NOT !!!!

Not interested in a Deck boat, not a fan of them for several reasons, mainly how they ride. The Bow on these type boats are generally wider than a normal bowrider, and IMHO not a good choice for Winnie conditions.
Would be great on Winnisquam or smaller lakes !

Thanks everyone, for your feedback, keep the suggestions coming.

BigDog

[donmac]

Checkout the new Robalo R222EX. As others have said, they are built well and have a nice deep hull.

We came real close to buying one a month or so ago, but I let my wife convince me to keep our more comfortable to hang out in, but rougher riding, Four Winns.

I settled for replacing the 2 stroke Evinrude on my Ranger center console with a new Mercury four stroke - but was originally leaning toward replacing BOTH boats with a single Robalo.

[winnipiseogee]

Originally Posted by ursa minor

how about a 23 foot Rossiter? I've seen a couple on the lake, verrry nice looking modern take on a small Bertram (in my opinion). The Rossiters are not bow riders though...

I want the new 20 foot Rossiter Coastal Cruiser in the worst possible way but fortunately the wait list is about a year and it keeps me from buying something I really shouldn't!

I have a hurricane right now and although its great for passengers it sucks for the captain. You sit very low and if anyone is in the bow its really reduces visibility. Also the captains chair is the worst seat & placement I have ever had on a boat.

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by winnipiseogee

I want the new 20 foot Rossiter Coastal Cruiser in the worst possible way but fortunately the wait list is about a year and it keeps me from buying something I really shouldn't!

I have a hurricane right now and although its great for passengers it sucks for the captain. You sit very low and if anyone is in the bow its really reduces visibility. Also the captains chair is the worst seat & placement I have ever had on a boat.

I googled the Rossiter boats...nice looking and they remind me of the old ocean going thompsons and other lapstrake boats that were used for bass fishing...(striped bass, that is)

[ursa minor]

Full disclosure; I'm probably a boat dealers worst nightmare. The big boat is 29 years old, the fun boat is 28 (2012 outboard though). Both could still pass for nearly new condition. They each fit their roles well and the cost to replace either is (to me anyway) quite horrifying. A well made boat with good care will go a long time here in fresh water paradise, don't discount a good condition older boat that's always been here on the New Hampshire lakes.

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by winnipiseogee

I want the new 20 foot Rossiter Coastal Cruiser in the worst possible way but fortunately the wait list is about a year and it keeps me from buying something I really shouldn't!

I have a hurricane right now and although its great for passengers it sucks for the captain. You sit very low and if anyone is in the bow its really reduces visibility. Also the captains chair is the worst seat & placement I have ever had on a boat.

Great looking boat, do you know what the 20 coastal goes for?

[winnipiseogee]

Originally Posted by codeman671

Great looking boat, do you know what the 20 coastal goes for?

High $60s....

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by DesertDweller

If you want something big and heavy that won't get tossed around, take a look at Robalo's. They are built like tanks.

Before buying my wife's current boat we test drove a Robalo 18' center console. While it is certainly "built like a tank" we could not get the boat up on plane with three people in it because it was so heavy! The boat also had the maximum horsepower outboard on it (90 HP) and there was nothing wrong with it. The salesman at Melvin Village actually told us that "yeah someone has to walk to the front of the boat so it will plane"! Are you kidding me! Not sure if other models have the same issue but if you go on line the biggest complaint about Robalo's is their weight and a lot of people are complaining!

Dan

[DesertDweller]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

Before buying my wife's current boat we test drove a Robalo 18' center console. While it is certainly "built like a tank" we could not get the boat up on plane with three people in it because it was so heavy! The boat also had the maximum horsepower outboard on it (90 HP) and there was nothing wrong with it. The salesman at Melvin Village actually told us that "yeah someone has to walk to the front of the boat so it will plane"! Are you kidding me! Not sure if other models have the same issue but if you go on line the biggest complaint about Robalo's is their weight and a lot of people are complaining!

Dan

Dan, the Robalo R180's have a maximum horsepower rating of 150 and I have never seen one with less than a 115. Not surprised it struggled with a 90. You do bring up a couple of very valid points. First, dealers often try to rig boats with the minimum horsepower out there to keep the cost down. Second, always sea trial/test drive the boat to make sure it will work for you.

http://robalo.com/Robalo-Boat-2016.p...tion=tab_specs

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by DesertDweller

Dan, the Robalo R180's have a maximum horsepower rating of 150 and I have never seen one with less than a 115. Not surprised it struggled with a 90. You do bring up a couple of very valid points. First, dealers often try to rig boats with the minimum horsepower out there to keep the cost down. Second, always sea trial/test drive the boat to make sure it will work for you.

http://robalo.com/Robalo-Boat-2016.p...tion=tab_specs

My mistake it was the 16' R-160 we test drove not the 18' and the max HP was 90. It was a dog and couldn't get out of its own way. We ended up buying an 18' just not a Robalo and funny the max horsepower on her new 18' Bayliner is 90 and it has no issue at all getting up and out of the water with a max speed of about 40 mph. While the Bayliner is lacking some of the quality and bling of the Robalo, It's no secret that Robalos are one of the heaviest boats out there and understandable that an 18' would need a 150 to get it to perform... their 16' could use a 150 also!

Dan

[salty dog]

Like ishoot, we have a Bayliner BR (215). It has the 5.0 IO, though, not an outboard. It's a bit harsh in the chop, but we generally take our time, not rushing around the lake. If money was no object, I think the Grady White Freedom 235 would be one I'd really be interested in. Classic lines, beautifully built, and really versatile. With the 300hp Yamaha out back, it would have very good performance.

http://www.gradywhite.com/models/dua...s/freedom-235/

[donmac]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

My mistake it was the 16' R-160 we test drove not the 18' and the max HP was 90. It was a dog and couldn't get out of its own way. We ended up buying an 18' just not a Robalo and funny the max horsepower on her new 18' Bayliner is 90 and it has no issue at all getting up and out of the water with a max speed of about 40 mph. While the Bayliner is lacking some of the quality and bling of the Robalo, It's no secret that Robalos are one of the heaviest boats out there and understandable that an 18' would need a 150 to get it to perform... their 16' could use a 150 also!

Dan

The Robalo's are known for being heavy and slow, but on the plus side is that they provide a smooth ride - at least with the larger hulls. I spend a lot of time on Chesapeake Bay so, I was willing to consider trading speed for comfort. Never did any research on the smaller hulls - but, I totally agree, not being able to plane fitted with max HP is totally unacceptable.