Mug by the bay center harbor closed

phoenix · 11-12-2017, 05:49 PM

so hard to make it through the winter if you don't have something unique or have a good bar scene. Two closings in Center Harbor since summer.

jeffatsquam · 11-12-2017, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by phoenix

so hard to make it through the winter if you don't have something unique or have a good bar scene. Two closings in Center Harbor since summer.

Not sure how this logic fits in with the VK or ctr. Harbor diner for that matter.

Almost like you got it backwards

phoenix · 11-12-2017, 09:16 PM

its my opinion . I love the VK and to me it is unique in that it offers a great dinner meal for less than $10. Again sad to see two places go out of business. Have a good night

rsmlp · 11-13-2017, 09:17 AM

Absolutely the WORST business ever created. One yelp review away from extinction (or a bad forum review), constant employee turnover, constant worry about employee fraud, bad hours...etc

It's no wonder that the majority don't make it. That said, my wife and I do our best to keep them afloat

sky's · 11-13-2017, 10:02 AM

center harbor diner has the best breakfast and lunch at a fair price

LIforrelaxin · 11-13-2017, 01:18 PM

The problem isn't always the restaurant... or a bad review etc.....

Sometimes it is about the landlord, and greediness....

If the lease is to much sometimes, start-up or even existing business don't have the savings to keep the business viable during the off season.

I believe if you look at VK or Center Harbor Diner, you will find that not only do they own the business, but they also own the facility....

joey2665 · 11-13-2017, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

The problem isn't always the restaurant... or a bad review etc.....

Sometimes it is about the landlord, and greediness....

If the lease is to much sometimes, start-up or even existing business don't have the savings to keep the business viable during the off season.

I believe if you look at VK or Center Harbor Diner, you will find that not only do they own the business, but they also own the facility....

Not always, I am the landlord to a local restaurant and when a competitor opened nearby I reduced the rent to assist them and in the long run it has worked out. The competitor closed and my tenant is still in business

Biggd · 11-13-2017, 02:33 PM

The restaurant business is a tough business esp. in a seasonal area. Long hours, always short on help, and always some complaints. You can't make everyone happy 100% of the time as seen by many of the comments on this forum.

dpg · 11-14-2017, 08:39 AM

I agree about the Center Harbor Diner good place. Often "pop" in there because they take plastic also, mine and a lot of peoples preferred way to pay these days.

LIforrelaxin · 11-14-2017, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by joey2665

Not always, I am the landlord to a local restaurant and when a competitor opened nearby I reduced the rent to assist them and in the long run it has worked out. The competitor closed and my tenant is still in business

Like everything, there are good landlords and bad ones....

Outdoorsman · 11-14-2017, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rsmlp

Absolutely the WORST business ever created. One yelp review away from extinction (or a bad forum review), constant employee turnover, constant worry about employee fraud, bad hours...etc

It's no wonder that the majority don't make it. That said, my wife and I do our best to keep them afloat

I honestly do not get the "yelp" reference that is so often mentioned on this site.

Why would anyone choose to NOT visit a restaurant because they had 6-8 bad reviews? Restaurants serve 1000's of people a month. The insignificant number of "yelp" reviews would not sway me in either direction.

I would like to think that most reasonable people would understand that unless you are a food blogger, the only time you will make such a comment is if you are unsatisfied. How many people have gone to a local eatery and had a great meal and decided they need to log-in/create an account to mention it?

For reference I just checked a few of the popular ones:
47 reviews in 8 years
20 reviews in 6 years
82 reviews in 11 years

And this one just for a kickers that has not been mentioned....
3 reviews in 6 years got this restaurant s 5 star rating.

11-12-2017, 05:49 PM	#1
phoenix Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: phoenix and moultonboro Posts: 1,563 Thanks: 63 Thanked 276 Times in 194 Posts	so hard to make it through the winter if you don't have something unique or have a good bar scene. Two closings in Center Harbor since summer. __________________ it's tough to make predictions specially about the future

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phoenix Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: phoenix and moultonboro Posts: 1,563 Thanks: 63 Thanked 276 Times in 194 Posts	its my opinion . I love the VK and to me it is unique in that it offers a great dinner meal for less than $10. Again sad to see two places go out of business. Have a good night __________________ it's tough to make predictions specially about the future

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rsmlp Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 495 Thanks: 5 Thanked 169 Times in 87 Posts	restaurant business Absolutely the WORST business ever created. One yelp review away from extinction (or a bad forum review), constant employee turnover, constant worry about employee fraud, bad hours...etc It's no wonder that the majority don't make it. That said, my wife and I do our best to keep them afloat

11-13-2017, 01:18 PM	#6
LIforrelaxin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas, Lake Ray Hubbard and NH, Long Island Winnipesaukee Posts: 2,923 Thanks: 1,052 Thanked 901 Times in 531 Posts	The problem isn't always the restaurant... or a bad review etc..... Sometimes it is about the landlord, and greediness.... If the lease is to much sometimes, start-up or even existing business don't have the savings to keep the business viable during the off season. I believe if you look at VK or Center Harbor Diner, you will find that not only do they own the business, but they also own the facility.... __________________ Life is about how much time you can spend relaxing... I do it on an island that isn't really an island.....

11-13-2017, 10:02 AM	#5
sky's Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 285 Thanks: 69 Thanked 80 Times in 56 Posts	center harbor diner has the best breakfast and lunch at a fair price

11-13-2017, 02:33 PM	#8
Biggd Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH Posts: 4,263 Thanks: 2,310 Thanked 1,230 Times in 788 Posts	The restaurant business is a tough business esp. in a seasonal area. Long hours, always short on help, and always some complaints. You can't make everyone happy 100% of the time as seen by many of the comments on this forum.

11-14-2017, 08:39 AM	#9
dpg Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,619 Thanks: 157 Thanked 235 Times in 172 Posts	I agree about the Center Harbor Diner good place. Often "pop" in there because they take plastic also, mine and a lot of peoples preferred way to pay these days.