Lakeport Landing Marina Legal Woes Continue

Outdoorsman · 03-28-2018, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WinnisquamZ

The city awarded them the winning bid so they would drop the law suit. Now, we are back to a law suit and they remain in business another season. Also, Irwin won’t pay the 500k they promised. It appears only the lawyers are making money

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Blizzard and her ilk need to go away, forever. Until that happens, she will continue to suck... from every direction she can.

Seaplane Pilot · 03-28-2018, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

Blizzard and her ilk need to go away, forever. Until that happens, she will continue to suck... from every direction she can.

Who exactly are her “ilk”? Customers, employees, neighbors? Please elaborate.

Rusty · 03-28-2018, 04:07 PM

IMO Lakeport Landing Marina should have be able to buy the showroom building on 21 Elm street without it going out to bid. Somehow it should have been worked out between the city & the people who have leased it for many years.

Woodsy · 03-29-2018, 03:26 PM

I do not understand why everyone just wants to pile on with negativity.

No doubt there is some posturing going on... but this is between the City lawyers & the Lakeport's lawyers. It is very common practice between commercial landlords and businesses.

Not for nothing.. but I am in agreement with Rusty on this... The city should have worked it out with Lakeport Landing. I am pretty sure Paul Blizzard would not have developed the property in question without 1st right of refusal. Nobody would spend the $$ on a new building just so that they might arbitrarily lose it in 20 years...

Woodsy

AC2717 · 03-29-2018, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

I do not understand why everyone just wants to pile on with negativity.

No doubt there is some posturing going on... but this is between the City lawyers & the Lakeport's lawyers. It is very common practice between commercial landlords and businesses.

Not for nothing.. but I am in agreement with Rusty on this... The city should have worked it out with Lakeport Landing. I am pretty sure Paul Blizzard would not have developed the property in question without 1st right of refusal. Nobody would spend the $$ on a new building just so that they might arbitrarily lose it in 20 years...

Woodsy

while that might be a good notion, one that i don't really disagree with problem is the city has to put out to bid, its required.

Woodsy · 03-29-2018, 03:55 PM

Even with 1st refusal the city would have to "put it out to bid"... The issues is the city didn't put any real restrictions on the property. (keep the buildings, maintain taxable value etc)

It is my understanding Irwin plans to level the buildings and make the lot a parking lot for their customers.... so instead of the city collecting $8K (total assessment $358.7K) a year in taxes... the city will be lucky to get $1.5K a year. (Parcel is assessed @ $55.8K)

Woodsy

joey2665 · 03-29-2018, 04:26 PM

I have had good experiences with both businesses and purchased my last boat and store it at Irwin.

However, I do believe that Lakeport should have been given a better opportunity to keep the location and much of the disent on Lakeport has nothing to do with their business but outside factors.

LIforrelaxin · 03-30-2018, 11:13 AM

Folks don't judge to much about is going on. There are likely more details here then are really understood, outside of those directly involved. I personally believed this was going to be a contentious mater, that would end up dragging out over time.

I do agree the ones making the money in the end will be the lawyers, and that is unfortunate.... but if that is how Irwin, Lakeport, and the City of Laconia, want to handle this, then that is the way it is going to be.

Who knows what the results of this entire show are going to be. Just grab some pop-corn enjoy the show... and realize we should have been lawyers....

Ms Molly McKever · 03-30-2018, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

Folks don't judge to much about is going on. There are likely more details here then are really understood, outside of those directly involved. I personally believed this was going to be a contentious mater, that would end up dragging out over time.

I do agree the ones making the money in the end will be the lawyers, and that is unfortunate.... but if that is how Irwin, Lakeport, and the City of Laconia, want to handle this, then that is the way it is going to be.

Who knows what the results of this entire show are going to be. Just grab some pop-corn enjoy the show... and realize we should have been lawyers....

We know the Laconia tax payer won't WIN !!! Just pay baby pay !!!

Tank151 · 03-30-2018, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

Blizzard and her ilk need to go away, forever. Until that happens, she will continue to suck... from every direction she can.

Outdoorsman needs to chill-out!

fatlazyless · 04-11-2018, 07:25 AM

This is a very well written newspaper report: http://www.unionleader.com/courts/La...court-04112018

Drove past the former Lakeport fire station a couple days ago and noticed a big, green dumpster close to the building. Sounds like it will need a big dumpster to get this trashy project completed? Maybe all parties involved can hop into dumpster, and get hauled away to the land fill instead of going to court?

03-28-2018, 04:07 PM	#3
Rusty Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,028 Thanks: 603 Thanked 687 Times in 425 Posts	IMO Lakeport Landing Marina should have be able to buy the showroom building on 21 Elm street without it going out to bid. Somehow it should have been worked out between the city & the people who have leased it for many years. __________________ It's never crowded along the extra mile.

03-29-2018, 03:26 PM	#4
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,968 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	I do not understand why everyone just wants to pile on with negativity. No doubt there is some posturing going on... but this is between the City lawyers & the Lakeport's lawyers. It is very common practice between commercial landlords and businesses. Not for nothing.. but I am in agreement with Rusty on this... The city should have worked it out with Lakeport Landing. I am pretty sure Paul Blizzard would not have developed the property in question without 1st right of refusal. Nobody would spend the $$ on a new building just so that they might arbitrarily lose it in 20 years... Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

03-29-2018, 03:55 PM	#6
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,968 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	Even with 1st refusal the city would have to "put it out to bid"... The issues is the city didn't put any real restrictions on the property. (keep the buildings, maintain taxable value etc) It is my understanding Irwin plans to level the buildings and make the lot a parking lot for their customers.... so instead of the city collecting $8K (total assessment $358.7K) a year in taxes... the city will be lucky to get $1.5K a year. (Parcel is assessed @ $55.8K) Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

03-30-2018, 11:13 AM	#8
LIforrelaxin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas, Lake Ray Hubbard and NH, Long Island Winnipesaukee Posts: 2,902 Thanks: 1,045 Thanked 897 Times in 529 Posts	Folks don't judge to much about is going on. There are likely more details here then are really understood, outside of those directly involved. I personally believed this was going to be a contentious mater, that would end up dragging out over time. I do agree the ones making the money in the end will be the lawyers, and that is unfortunate.... but if that is how Irwin, Lakeport, and the City of Laconia, want to handle this, then that is the way it is going to be. Who knows what the results of this entire show are going to be. Just grab some pop-corn enjoy the show... and realize we should have been lawyers.... __________________ Life is about how much time you can spend relaxing... I do it on an island that isn't really an island.....

04-11-2018, 07:25 AM	#11
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,852 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 303 Thanked 1,036 Times in 755 Posts	This is a very well written newspaper report: http://www.unionleader.com/courts/La...court-04112018 Drove past the former Lakeport fire station a couple days ago and noticed a big, green dumpster close to the building. Sounds like it will need a big dumpster to get this trashy project completed? Maybe all parties involved can hop into dumpster, and get hauled away to the land fill instead of going to court? Last edited by fatlazyless; 04-11-2018 at 02:29 PM.

03-29-2018, 04:26 PM	#7
joey2665 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY Posts: 3,222 Thanks: 1,219 Thanked 1,009 Times in 649 Posts	I have had good experiences with both businesses and purchased my last boat and store it at Irwin. However, I do believe that Lakeport should have been given a better opportunity to keep the location and much of the disent on Lakeport has nothing to do with their business but outside factors.