Validation Numbers Controled BY NHSA

SAB1 · 03-29-2018, 12:31 PM

I'd say F&G and NHSA should focus their efforts in implementing stringent fines and loss of registration penalties for people riding off trail and grab their money that way before we have no trails to ride.

jeffk · 03-29-2018, 12:43 PM

If the state wants to steal $10 more of our money, why don't they just increase registration by $10? This proposed roundabout method being dumped on the backs of already overburdened volunteers is just insane. The registration process already exists. Increasing the fee would create NO extra effort for anyone.

Unless of course the state is being dishonest and sneaking in a defacto registration increase under the radar. Noooo. The state wouldn't be that nasty, would they?

VitaBene · 03-29-2018, 01:50 PM

This is not the state but the NHSA (NH Snowmobile Association) that is trying to ensure they continue to get their $10 from every snowmobiler!

WINNOCTURN · 03-30-2018, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by VitaBene

This is not the state but the NHSA (NH Snowmobile Association) that is trying to ensure they continue to get their $10 from every snowmobiler!

John and to all the other Club Presidents and Membership People,

Fish & Game is the one setting up the "VD" Validation Numbering System with NHSA being the only provider $$$$$ of ID Numbers.

NHSA has stated you no longer have to be a Member of NHSA, You just have to PAY them $12.00 for a "VD" Number ($10.00 ? plus a $2.00 Transaction
FEE!).

Interesting fact, the OHRV Association is using the F&G VALIDATION Numbering format but they are giving the Numbers FREE of charge to thier Clubs!

The HELL with the RSA stating you only have to be a "Member of a Club that is a Member of NHSA(in good standing) to be eligible for the $30.00 Registration Discount.

Anyone got the AG's phone number.

There are 2 important NHSA Meeting coming up, 1st meeting to except their new Bylaws and second the Annual Meeting.

I will come back with the dates and times.

Anyone wanting to be a Delegate at these Meetings please contact either you Club Treasure or Secretary.

We, MSC, are eligible for 12 Delegates. Lunch is provided at the Annual Meeting.

Outdoorsman · 03-31-2018, 04:31 PM

Interestingly enough. I was at the Easter Seals Ride-In in Gorham about a month ago. I attended the auction at the T&C on that Saturday night.

One of the item that was raffled off by the NHF&G was a "Zero Registration".
The winning bidder got the registration number "0000" for the next season (as well as a certificate and bragging rights). I do not recall the final winning bid but I do know it was closer to $1500 than it was to $1000.

Perhaps F&G will go for Vanity Reg #'s next

FWIW, Belmont Bogie Busters have outbid everyone for that Reg number every year except the first year since its inception. (per the auctioneer) (I am not affiliated with Belmont Bogie Busters)

WINNOCTURN · 04-04-2018, 09:49 AM

Please take a look at this post on SledNH

I am questioning F&G/NHSA use of PAID FOR Validation Numbers through NHSA at a cost of $12.00 for each Membership!

http://www.slednh.com/forums/index.p...aint-of-trade/

upthesaukee · 03-29-2018, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SAB1

I'd say F&G and NHSA should focus their efforts in implementing stringent fines and loss of registration penalties for people riding off trail and grab their money that way before we have no trails to ride.

This thought it's intriguing, if not nigh near impossible. There are over 7,000 miles of snowmobile trails in NH, and I believe only 33 F&G Agents, who not only are to police the trails, but all the bodies of water in the state, complaints about F&G reg violations, etc.

Nice thought, but not practical, in my humble opinion.

Dave

SAB1 · 03-29-2018, 09:49 PM

It's really not. Make the fines very stiff. First offense $750 fine loss of registration in current year as well as the following year. The following year the fines and penalties get stiffer for second offense. Someone else suggested a number of hours of required club trail work. If the offender is caught and is a member of a club the club terminates the offenders membership. Plenty of opportunity to install cameras in strategic spots and there are plenty of riders out there with cell phones to take pictures. Get rid of the small registration stickers they came out with this year and go back to the larger stickers with bigger numbers to help see them. Not perfect but a good start.

04-04-2018, 09:49 AM	#6
WINNOCTURN Deceased Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Moultonboro Posts: 849 Thanks: 350 Thanked 351 Times in 193 Posts	F&g/nhsa restrant of trade? Please take a look at this post on SledNH I am questioning F&G/NHSA use of PAID FOR Validation Numbers through NHSA at a cost of $12.00 for each Membership! http://www.slednh.com/forums/index.p...aint-of-trade/

03-29-2018, 12:31 PM	#1
SAB1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tuftonboro Posts: 1,243 Thanks: 192 Thanked 329 Times in 239 Posts	I'd say F&G and NHSA should focus their efforts in implementing stringent fines and loss of registration penalties for people riding off trail and grab their money that way before we have no trails to ride.

03-29-2018, 12:43 PM	#2
jeffk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,173 Thanks: 206 Thanked 437 Times in 253 Posts	If the state wants to steal $10 more of our money, why don't they just increase registration by $10? This proposed roundabout method being dumped on the backs of already overburdened volunteers is just insane. The registration process already exists. Increasing the fee would create NO extra effort for anyone. Unless of course the state is being dishonest and sneaking in a defacto registration increase under the radar. Noooo. The state wouldn't be that nasty, would they?

03-29-2018, 01:50 PM	#3
VitaBene Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 3,595 Thanks: 1,640 Thanked 1,641 Times in 844 Posts	This is not the state but the NHSA (NH Snowmobile Association) that is trying to ensure they continue to get their $10 from every snowmobiler!

03-31-2018, 04:31 PM	#5
Outdoorsman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 837 Thanks: 117 Thanked 211 Times in 133 Posts	Interestingly enough. I was at the Easter Seals Ride-In in Gorham about a month ago. I attended the auction at the T&C on that Saturday night. One of the item that was raffled off by the NHF&G was a "Zero Registration". The winning bidder got the registration number "0000" for the next season (as well as a certificate and bragging rights). I do not recall the final winning bid but I do know it was closer to $1500 than it was to $1000. Perhaps F&G will go for Vanity Reg #'s next FWIW, Belmont Bogie Busters have outbid everyone for that Reg number every year except the first year since its inception. (per the auctioneer) (I am not affiliated with Belmont Bogie Busters)

03-29-2018, 09:49 PM	#8
SAB1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tuftonboro Posts: 1,243 Thanks: 192 Thanked 329 Times in 239 Posts	It's really not. Make the fines very stiff. First offense $750 fine loss of registration in current year as well as the following year. The following year the fines and penalties get stiffer for second offense. Someone else suggested a number of hours of required club trail work. If the offender is caught and is a member of a club the club terminates the offenders membership. Plenty of opportunity to install cameras in strategic spots and there are plenty of riders out there with cell phones to take pictures. Get rid of the small registration stickers they came out with this year and go back to the larger stickers with bigger numbers to help see them. Not perfect but a good start.