Best Jump Pack

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Love the size, but not the price! How small could I go if I went this route?

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Well the website says the XP-3 will start a V-8 truck...

Here's a pretty cool video to watch.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf7u8rQTt94

Dan

[Descant]

I have a "Rescue 1060" now. I had a coupoe from WlmSAR that were lightweight and didn't last, no oomph and no stamina. Also have Black and Decker. Bedtter, but still not enough oomph for bigger engines. My wife gave a the Rescue 1060, which is more a commercial piece. Weighs 50% again what the B & D weighs. It came from Interstate Battery, and I think about $250. In addition to flashing lights, compressor, work light, etc it has two AC outlets so I can plug in AC tools or recharge their separate batteries. It has never failed me, but being a little bigger it's a little harder to store on the boat.

[Garcia]

I keep a Cobra CPP 12000 in my car. It has worked great to jump a couple different cars, mowers, and tractors - haven't had to try it in the boat yet. The small size allows me to just leave it in the car - and it doubles as a phone charger when needed. Not heavy duty but so far great for when I need it.

[webmaster]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

Well the website says the XP-3 will start a V-8 truck...

Here's a pretty cool video to watch.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf7u8rQTt94

Dan

After I posted that I had a XP-10 I got mine out of the car and it's actually a XP-3. That may be all you need unless you need to jump many vehicles on one charge.

[Meredith AK]

Our waverunner would not start the other day; we keep it at a friends house.
I asked if he had a charger and he gave me his XP-3. Started on first try and he told me that it would start any of his toys the first time (he has a LOT of toys).

[Top-Water]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

Well the website says the XP-3 will start a V-8 truck...

Here's a pretty cool video to watch.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf7u8rQTt94

Dan

Not really sure how to politely say I have no opinions in this topic and really want to emphasize I really like "ishoot308's" posts. (Would love to learn some of his fishing tricks) But the video link posted above and what they are showing in the demonstration is really not a good thing to do. The test is a little misleading in one way by starting/ cranking the engine with the original / old maybe dead battery disconnected not a fair test. But that's not the real concern. The real concern is if you do get the engine started with just the "jump pack" with the main/ existing battery disconnected and then one of the leads using the alligator clips becomes un-done /disconnected for a split second, goodbye charging system on your boat or car in most cases. The video kind-ah suggests you could get the engine running then re-connect everything while the motor is running. (Never do this its a very bad idea.)

From the link below:

The moment he disconnects either lead from your battery, it's entirely possible he caused thousands of dollars in damage. Here's why...

Your battery does more than just provide electricity. It also shorts AC, spikes and transients to ground. Removing the battery from the circuit allows those spikes and transients to travel around, endangering every semiconductor circuit in your car. The ECU, the speed sensitive steering, the memory seat adjustments, the cruise control, and even the car's stereo.


http://www.troubleshooters.com/dont_...ct_battery.htm

[Cal Coon]

Originally Posted by Top-Water

Not really sure how to politely say I have no opinions in this topic and really want to emphasize I really like "ishoot308's" posts. (Would love to learn some of his fishing tricks) But the video link posted above and what they are showing in the demonstration is really not a good thing to do. The test is a little misleading in one way by starting/ cranking the engine with the original / old maybe dead battery disconnected not a fair test. But that's not the real concern. The real concern is if you do get the engine started with just the "jump pack" with the main/ existing battery disconnected and then one of the leads using the alligator clips becomes un-done /disconnected for a split second, goodbye charging system on your boat or car in most cases. The video kind-ah suggests you could get the engine running then re-connect everything while the motor is running. (Never do this its a very bad idea.)

From the link below:

The moment he disconnects either lead from your battery, it's entirely possible he caused thousands of dollars in damage. Here's why...

Your battery does more than just provide electricity. It also shorts AC, spikes and transients to ground. Removing the battery from the circuit allows those spikes and transients to travel around, endangering every semiconductor circuit in your car. The ECU, the speed sensitive steering, the memory seat adjustments, the cruise control, and even the car's stereo.


http://www.troubleshooters.com/dont_...ct_battery.htm

With all due respect Top Water, the guy in the video says himself (on a couple different occasions) that he "does not recommend doing this to your own vehicle", he is just trying to demonstrate the power of the jump pack. So of course he has to disconnect the battery to show that ALL the power is coming from the jump pack alone, with no possibility of any battery assistance. How is that misleading or unfair? And I don't see anywhere in the video where it suggests that you should get the vehicle running on just the jump pack, and then reconnect the battery...??? Why would you do that in the first place? That makes no sense at all. Everything in this video was for demonstration purposes only. And lastly, he disconnected one of the battery terminals from the jump pack when the bike was just cranking over, NOT running, again, just for demonstration purposes ONLY. Amazing how we can watch the same video and come away with two completely different perspectives... No criticism, just an observance. Makes me wonder how other's perceive the video.

[Cal Coon]

Originally Posted by Top-Water

Then read this:
http://www.troubleshooters.com/dont_...ct_battery.htm




A little misleading in the sense that with the dead battery removed from the equation nothing is lost trying to charge up the dead battery when connected in a parallel electrical circuit and all the energy in the "jump pack" can be used to get the engine to crank over.

I have no doubts these jump packs can crank an engine over, especially when you remove the possibly dead or shorted out out battery from the circuit.

A more fairer and safer test would demonstrate the jump start with everything connected including a battery that is compromised. Similar to what would happen if you called Triple AAA and they gave you a jump start.

When you watch the video, the part where he starts the truck, he really isn't really going anywhere unless he leaves that jump pack continuously connected, or runs the risk of damaging something if it gets momentarily disconnected.


No criticism here either, just wanted to point out "what they don't say" and the risk that it presents as part of a method to get an engine running with a dead battery. Charging system/electrical parts are very expensive for cars and boats and often come with (No Warranty).

We will just have to agree to disagree. I see the video for "demonstration purposes" ONLY, to show the power of the jump pack, nothing else, with the vehicle's batteries disconnected, and it makes perfect sense to me. If the batteries in both vehicles were still connected, and there was no way of knowing what condition they're in, how would you get any sense of the power of the jump pack? Because it's a video, you have to prove to the viewer that there are no camera tricks, so hence the disconnected batteries to show the power of the jump pack alone, with NO possibility of any battery assistance. And I don't assume that someone is going to drive the vehicle with the battery disconnected, and just run on the jump pack battery. That makes no sense at all. To me, the entire video was for "demonstration purposes only", and I get no sense of the video suggesting anything else otherwise. Maybe I'm just not explaining myself properly...