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Old 07-30-2018, 11:45 AM   #1
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You can clearly tell it's a Monday...very cranky bunch with a clear NIMBY agenda. The same story with the speed limit, I don't like it so therefore lets pass a regulation so others can't enjoy the resource.

Instead of complaining on the forum do something. If you don't like it and think it impacts your quality of life, well then you should not have purchased land on a public waterway. If you really believe it impacts your "view tax" then I'm sure you could easily sell it for a discount.
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Old 07-30-2018, 11:50 AM   #2
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You can clearly tell it's a Monday...very cranky bunch with a clear NIMBY agenda. The same story with the speed limit, I don't like it so therefore lets pass a regulation so others can't enjoy the resource.

Instead of complaining on the forum do something. If you don't like it and think it impacts your quality of life, well then you should not have purchased land on a public waterway. If you really believe it impacts your "view tax" then I'm sure you could easily sell it for a discount.
We can tell it's not parked in front of your waterfront.
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Old 07-30-2018, 12:17 PM   #3
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Clearly posted by a “Have-Not” verses the “Haves”
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Old 07-30-2018, 12:49 PM   #4
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Although I am relieved that The Dive is not parking, and highly unlikely to ever park, in my backyard, I do not view this as a NIMBY issue. It is really an issue of how a state resource such as the Lake, which is in the nature of a park, should be used. It is more of a zoning issue, recognizing what is appropriate and respectful of the resource and all that use it.
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Although I am relieved that The Dive is not parking, and highly unlikely to ever park, in my backyard, I do not view this as a NIMBY issue. It is really an issue of how a state resource such as the Lake, which is in the nature of a park, should be used. It is more of a zoning issue, recognizing what is appropriate and respectful of the resource and all that use it.
I would LOVE to see your "Zoning" proposal for each and every city/town with waterfront access.

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Not just Winnipesaukee.... that would be "unfair" to others.
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I would LOVE to see your "Zoning" proposal for each and every city/town with waterfront access.

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Not just Winnipesaukee.... that would be "unfair" to others.
The details are beyond my pay grade and expertise. The issue will not be resolved in this forum. I will rely on those directly affected to bring the issue before the appropriate public officials and I look forward to seeing their response.
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Old 07-30-2018, 01:10 PM   #7
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LOL, clearly a TIC comment - and assuming it was directed at me. You've made it abundantly clear how pleasant you are. Don't pass judgement on things you clearly don't know anything about.

Be happy for what you have and if it doesn't meet your need then I say again do something about it.
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Old 07-30-2018, 01:12 PM   #8
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You can clearly tell it's a Monday...very cranky bunch with a clear NIMBY agenda. The same story with the speed limit, I don't like it so therefore lets pass a regulation so others can't enjoy the resource.

Instead of complaining on the forum do something. If you don't like it and think it impacts your quality of life, well then you should not have purchased land on a public waterway. If you really believe it impacts your "view tax" then I'm sure you could easily sell it for a discount.
No need for insults or personal sniping. The majority of the critical posts are from people who are nowhere near Smalls, and prior to the shortcomings becoming apparent, virtually all the posts were interested/supportive.

Also, before you accuse others of having an agenda to keep you from "enjoy(ing) the resource", you might ask yourself whether your neon sign or 80mph boat makes it difficult for them to enjoy the resource.
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Old 07-30-2018, 01:30 PM   #9
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No need for insults or personal sniping. The majority of the critical posts are from people who are nowhere near Smalls, and prior to the shortcomings becoming apparent, virtually all the posts were interested/supportive.

Also, before you accuse others of having an agenda to keep you from "enjoy(ing) the resource", you might ask yourself whether your neon sign or 80mph boat makes it difficult for them to enjoy the resource.
You make some valid points. A lot of people are for it, some are against it. Those in the vicinity of where it's been for the past week are very vocal about being against it.

BTW - I personally love hearing and seeing the GFBL boats, and I recognize others don't. At some point we all need to find a happy medium, but creating a law seems overly restrictive (which is where this thread is headed).
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You can clearly tell it's a Monday...very cranky bunch with a clear NIMBY agenda. The same story with the speed limit, I don't like it so therefore lets pass a regulation so others can't enjoy the resource.

Instead of complaining on the forum do something. If you don't like it and think it impacts your quality of life, well then you should not have purchased land on a public waterway. If you really believe it impacts your "view tax" then I'm sure you could easily sell it for a discount.
The forum is 80% bitch session and 20% other. There are people out there literally trolling for a comment to invect upon. Sad but reliable responses as I'm sure will follow this one.
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I stand by my NIMBY comment above, that being said....

This business will have about 6 weeks of operation this season. Technically a ground-up build with no real chance to "shake out the bugs" other than to operate for a short [less than 2 months] season.

To spend that time testing what various land owners near various sand bars think of the business is [silly]. A better effort would be to spend those short weeks to see what improvements need to be made to keep the business viable.

I do agree that they should factor in the desires of various land owners, but I doubt many would give them a "thumbs up". Lucky for them, The State of NH and its citizens owns the water.
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Old 07-30-2018, 11:15 PM   #12
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So there are maybe 5-6 landowners who might be impacted by the Dive, and they are ALL upset and complaining on the Forum? Doubtful. Who has identified themselves as such?
Before I retired, I recall occasional complaints about my business or a product. I also remember that I did business with the complainer's friends and neighbors who said. "I'm a solid customer. That guy complains about everything, and everybody knows he's just a whiner. Don't listen to that #$%&()." Good advice from lots of good clients.
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