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[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Major

Like most conservatives, I am very much against pollution. It sickens me.

I understand that not everyone cares about the environment, and I try not to be judgmental.

But I do not think its right for you to assert that pollution sickens you on the very same thread that you vigorously defend a guy who obviously violated environmental rules, question climate change in the face of a mountain of evidence, and assert that economic growth is more important than environmental protection.

[Major]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

I understand that not everyone cares about the environment, and I try not to be judgmental.

But I do not think its right for you to assert that pollution sickens you on the very same thread that you vigorously defend a guy who obviously violated environmental rules, question climate change in the face of a mountain of evidence, and assert that economic growth is more important than environmental protection.

It seems like you're pretty judgmental. Notwithstanding, I think the US has come a long way in protecting the environment. Liberals want perfection, a utopia, which is unachievable. There's no evidence that lessening restrictions has negatively impacted anything. In fact, under the old administration, with lots and lots of regulations, Deepwater Horizon, Flint City and the Gold King mining accident happened. I'm not blaming Obama, but these environmental tragedies occurred on his watch so he should own them.

Economic growth is important. What I am against is destroying our economy because of the globalists' obsession with climate change. There should be a balance.

[Biggd]

"The cost of believing climate change is not real is too high" A quote from Bill Ford, chairman of Ford motor Company.

[Major]

Originally Posted by Biggd

"The cost of believing climate change is not real is too high" A quote from Bill Ford, chairman of Ford motor Company.

Another globalist.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Major

Another globalist.

No, he's just pi$$ed because his company changed course to meet fuel efficiency requirements and promoted their Company as a leader in that regard and this president has just taken away all their advantage in being leader in environmental friendly automobiles by loosening the standards. Basically changing the rules that everyone already geared up to meet. It's always about the $$$$$$$$$.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

I understand that not everyone cares about the environment, and I try not to be judgmental. But I do not think its right for you to assert that pollution sickens you on the very same thread that you vigorously defend a guy who obviously violated environmental rules, question climate change in the face of a mountain of evidence, and assert that economic growth is more important than environmental protection.

As one who has pontificated on the alternate topic that this thread has shifted to, I suggest we all call ourselves "apostate" on the topic for a few centuries. This topic has closed other threads "back when".

In the meantime, I'm going to ask neighbors for a tow to Welcome Island and maybe take some pictures. (And sail back). Can someone advise the best route from the Marriott Compound—where we'll start the tow? This will be a tow, so boat-traffic will be an important consideration.

Also, is "Welcome Island" a real name?

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[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by ApS

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In the meantime, I'm going to ask neighbors for a tow to Welcome Island and maybe take some pictures. (And sail back). Can someone advise the best route from the Marriott Compound—where we'll start the tow? This will be a tow, so boat-traffic will be an important consideration.

Also, is "Welcome Island" a real name?

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Really?

You would have your "raghangar" towed by a "stinkpot" Oh the horror! Oh the pollution! Oh the noise from the straining GASOLINE engine!

What if your neighbors see this? Oh my!